Guest guest Posted July 25, 2008 Report Share Posted July 25, 2008 Hi, I have heard from many group members who have written offline about their concerns of treating cancer with Rife techniques. I had a letter recently from a reader I want to share with you, because it addresses not only those concerns, but so much more of what have tried to provide at my nothing-for-sale-information-only site www.alternativetherapyadvice.com which is currently Number 1 on Yahoo out of 24,300,000 sites. From the email bag, a reader has written 05:08:47 -0000, " Xxxx " said: Dear Dr. Berger, >My daughter was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer in >2006. She has had NO allopathic treatment. In March of this year >we purchased a " Blue Light " plasma unit. The doctor had her >doing 6 hours of blue light therapy daily with the tube laying on >her breasts or right underneath. We noticed that every month her >white blood cells were steadily decreasing. They finally > got down to 2.8 and we stopped using the Blue Light. Two weeks >later they were back up to 4.99. Still low, but about what they've >been since her diagnosis. >Is it possible that [frequency] therapy has contributed to the >decrease of white blood cells? And, are you familiar with the Blue >Light unit? *************************************************** I wrote back: Let me honor both you and your daughter on your courage to travel the route of alternative therapy. I understand that when you are out there alone, taking the responsibility so many of us rush to throw off to our doctors, it can get scary. This is especially true when something negative happens that causes you to " second guess " decisions you have made. A number of things can cause the white blood cell count to drop, such as infections and viral-induced autoimmune disorders. But it is human nature for us to jump to the worst possible conclusions, so we jump and think about bone marrow diseases or leukemia. Instead, let's start simple. Let's assume, at least for the time being, that it is the blue light, rather than some dreaded condition, that is responsible. After all, we know over-stimulation of the immune system can destroy white blood cells. Perhaps six hours of therapy each day is too aggressive and is stimulating just such a response. About " Second Guessing " : When white counts get down or below 2,500, the risk of serious infection sharply increases. Since your daughter was approaching this range, the decision to stop the Blue Light Therapy was a wise one, the correct one. Good for you! As for the " Blue Light " , I know nothing about it. If you will give me a bit more information about the device, perhaps I can find out more to help you. Let's see if changing the way you are using it will preserve the good it has been doing. No one wants to lose ground when you are fighting cancer. Best regards, Dr. S. N. Berger One of my hopes in constructing this site is to provide the information you need about frequency devices. It may turn out that the Blue Light Plasma Machine is the answer to everyone's prayer. Perhaps just the opposite, and it will prove worthless or even harmful. But until this site came along, there were very few places you could go to get answers that were not at least somewhat tinged by monetary concerns of those selling equipment. And after you have bought an instrument, or attempted one or another of the alternative therapies, where can you find answers if something goes wrong? I ardently hope you can find help at my site. Another item on my " wish list " is to be able to assemble enough case histories so I and others who contribute here can offer substantiated advice to you and everyone else seeking help. To date, there are simply too many areas in which we have no information to accurately explain many of the things we encounter in treatment, such as a drop in white blood cells. Finally, I would dearly love to be able to offer meaningful psychological support to anyone using frequency or other alternative techniques. All of us are sort of naked, surrounded by a swarm of nay-sayers. They constantly tell us how stupid we are, how dumb we are, how silly we are to try the things we do in the quest for more natural healing. They are wrong, and we need all the courage we can muster to stand and tell them so. Nate Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 26, 2008 Report Share Posted July 26, 2008 To clarify: Your letter writer indicated white blood cell counts of 2.8 and then 4.99, and you indicate 2500 as low-normal. All lab reports I've seen show white blood count in actual numbers, not scaled by 1000, so aren't both her values far below normal? I agree that white blood cell count can vary dramatically during treatment. My understanding is that this can contribute to the herx effect, where a patient often feels worse as the treatment takes effect and toxins increase, among other things. I also agree that we need to watch out for BS and psychology when talking about treatments and claims. There is far too much supposition and " I think " out there masquerading as fact, and most doctors and " therapists " are woefully deficient in their psychological skills. Most think they are good at patient psych, but in my experience most are simply not. The protocols of science are good; humans seem to lack the ability to consistently apply them when the results disagree with what we'd like to see! Mike Friday, July 25, 2008, 3:23:39 PM, you wrote: DSNB> Hi, DSNB> I have heard from many group members who have written offline about DSNB> their concerns of treating cancer with Rife techniques. DSNB> I had a letter recently from a reader I want to share with you, DSNB> because it addresses not only those concerns, but so much more of what DSNB> have tried to provide at my nothing-for-sale-information-only DSNB> site www.alternativetherapyadvice.com which is currently Number 1 DSNB> on Yahoo out of 24,300,000 sites. >>From the email bag, a reader has written DSNB> 05:08:47 -0000, " Xxxx " said: DSNB> Dear Dr. Berger, >>My daughter was diagnosed with inflammatory breast cancer in >2006. DSNB> She has had NO allopathic treatment. In March of this year >we DSNB> purchased a " Blue Light " plasma unit. The doctor had her >doing 6 DSNB> hours of blue light therapy daily with the tube laying on >her breasts DSNB> or right underneath. We noticed that every month her >white blood DSNB> cells were steadily decreasing. They finally >> got down to 2.8 and we stopped using the Blue Light. Two weeks >>later they were back up to 4.99. Still low, but about what they've >>been since her diagnosis. >>Is it possible that [frequency] therapy has contributed to the >>decrease of white blood cells? And, are you familiar with the Blue >>Light unit? DSNB> *************************************************** DSNB> I wrote back: DSNB> Let me honor both you and your daughter on your courage to travel the DSNB> route of alternative therapy. I understand that when you are out there DSNB> alone, taking the responsibility so many of us rush to throw off to DSNB> our doctors, it can get scary. This is especially true when something DSNB> negative happens that causes you to " second guess " decisions you have DSNB> made. DSNB> A number of things can cause the white blood cell count to drop, such DSNB> as infections and viral-induced autoimmune disorders. But it is human DSNB> nature for us to jump to the worst possible conclusions, so we jump DSNB> and think about bone marrow diseases or leukemia. DSNB> Instead, let's start simple. Let's assume, at least for the time DSNB> being, that it is the blue light, rather than some dreaded condition, DSNB> that is responsible. After all, we know over-stimulation of the immune DSNB> system can destroy white blood cells. Perhaps six hours of therapy DSNB> each day is too aggressive and is stimulating just such a response. DSNB> About " Second Guessing " : DSNB> When white counts get down or below 2,500, the risk of serious DSNB> infection sharply increases. Since your daughter was approaching this DSNB> range, the decision to stop the Blue Light Therapy was a wise one, the DSNB> correct one. Good for you! DSNB> As for the " Blue Light " , I know nothing about it. If you will give me DSNB> a bit more information about the device, perhaps I can find out more DSNB> to help you. Let's see if changing the way you are using it will DSNB> preserve the good it has been doing. No one wants to lose ground when DSNB> you are fighting cancer. DSNB> Best regards, Dr. S. N. Berger DSNB> One of my hopes in constructing this site is to provide the DSNB> information you need about frequency devices. It may turn out that the DSNB> Blue Light Plasma Machine is the answer to everyone's prayer. Perhaps DSNB> just the opposite, and it will prove worthless or even harmful. But DSNB> until this site came along, there were very few places you could go to DSNB> get answers that were not at least somewhat tinged by monetary DSNB> concerns of those selling equipment. DSNB> And after you have bought an instrument, or attempted one or another DSNB> of the alternative therapies, where can you find answers if something DSNB> goes wrong? I ardently hope you can find help at my site. DSNB> Another item on my " wish list " is to be able to assemble enough case DSNB> histories so I and others who contribute here can offer substantiated DSNB> advice to you and everyone else seeking help. To date, there are DSNB> simply too many areas in which we have no information to accurately DSNB> explain many of the things we encounter in treatment, such as a drop DSNB> in white blood cells. DSNB> Finally, I would dearly love to be able to offer meaningful DSNB> psychological support to anyone using frequency or other alternative DSNB> techniques. All of us are sort of naked, surrounded by a swarm of DSNB> nay-sayers. They constantly tell us how stupid we are, how dumb we DSNB> are, how silly we are to try the things we do in the quest for more DSNB> natural healing. DSNB> They are wrong, and we need all the courage we can muster to stand and DSNB> tell them so. DSNB> Nate Berger Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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