introduction

[Guest guest]

physical job on a loading dock which involves a lot of lifting

twisting

pushing, pulling, etc.....and I am sure I will be resigning very

soon....within the next couple of weeks.

Hello Mark,

Welcome to the group.

I'm not familiar with work comp guidelines, but I would think

they could put you on leave with pay or something before you would

have to resign, or light duty like taking phone calls in the office,

as long as you didn't have to sit with what you've got wrong or lift

anything. That's easier said than done when I imagine you're not

getting much sleep among other things. I hope that your determination

is fair to you.

I've got low back problems too,also my neck,and even the middle

(don't want to leave any space out) that is the source of my pain.

It's the result of many different factors.

Hope you find people who can offer you more concrete

advice here about the comp area specifically, but otherwise wanted to

say hello to you and glad you found us here. None of us are a

stranger to pain.

See you,

[Guest guest]

,

Your experiences are very similar to many of the rest of us,

especially those with Fibromyalgia and other arhtritic conditions.

You should try to get an appointment with a rheumatologist for

evaluation for Fibromyalgia or the possibility of another arthritic

condition. You should also then ask the rheumatologist for a

referral to a pain specialist if the rheumatologist discovers a

diagnosis but will not prescribe a pain management program for you.

Pain management may include any or all of the following:

Non-steroidal anti-inflammatory Drugs (NSAIDs)

Steroids like cortisone

Physical Therapy including massage, gentle strength and flexibility

exercises, whirlpool baths, TENS units, Fibro workshops, and more.

non-opiod Pain relieving medications

opioid medications

muscle relaxers

anti-depressants

tri-cyclic drugs

sleeping medications

psychiatric evaluation

counseling

and more

You sound pretty desparate. I do understand that kind of a

situation. Diagnosis can often take years. The sooner you get an

appointment for evaluation with a specialist, the sooner you will

get help.

It is important to remember that uncontrolled pain can cause

depression, and even result in Fibromyalgia or other physical

problems. Chronic pain is a serious matter and should take serious

action as soon as possible. Rarely does depression cause physical

pain. Treat the reason for the chronic pain and you may find the

depression lifting.

Keep us posted on your progress.

Ray Neal, co-moderator

[Guest guest]

Hi ,

Your pain description sounds very much like what I experience. I got the

same type of treatment from doctors saying it was all in my head. Finally I

demanded that I be sent to a pain clinic. I was able to get this because of

5 surgeries on my spine and constant pain from that. This other pain was

different.

At my first appointment with this new doctor he did many tests. I was

diagnosed with Fibromyalgia and Chronic Myofascial Pain. I was not overjoyed

with another ailment but I was finally validated.

As you posted you seem to have limited doctors where you live. It would be

very wise to search outside of your area for a doctor. If you need help with

that just send a post to the group and we can help.

Welcome to the group.

Kathleen in Calif.

[Guest guest]

Mark,

I don't know if you have done anything yet, but if you would, please send me a

copy of what has happened to you etc. I'm new to the group and don't know

everyone's stories.

My husband is a Director of Human Resources at a hospital and he knows the

Worker's comp laws backwards and forwards. If there is anything that you can

do, he'll know. So, send me that info ASAP to either the group or my Yahoo addy

(momnpain@...) and we'll see if we can help you.

Love,

Kathy

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 8/18/2002 10:34:02 AM Central Daylight Time,

hallkids@... writes:

> He also said that if he fused the three I'd be back in a few years with

> problems with the remaining discs due to the pressure fusing puts on the

> good discs. So, I'm back to square one with Rx and more physical therapy.

> I can't believe that this level of pain is going to persist for the rest of

> my life - or at least until I'm 55 at which time the Dr. said it would be

> okay to fuse three verterbra. Not that I want 1/2 my neck fused! I just

> would really like some relief that doesn't make my head fuzzy like the Rx's.

>

> Oh! One other question. What does one use for pain relief that doesn't

> make you feel wierd? I have used vicodin off and on -

I believe I would get a second opinion. I had a c5-6 fusion in 85 and in

about 2 weeks they are going to fuse c4. The doc does not want to do a

lamenectomy because he said it would weaken my back-sort of making it

unstable. I know what pain u are suffering. Do u have spinal stenosis or

cord compression? if any of those things occur-they will have to do surgery.

In my case my upper extremities got weaker and j were painful and jib am

losing some fine motor control and there is transient numbness. If this doc

is not a neurologist-go to one. Take your mri and mylegram with u. the

neurologist may refer u to a neurosurgeon.

I trly understand what u are going through. U do not have to live in this

pain. Especially if u start experiencing signs and symptoms of cord

compression.

God Sped

vali

[Guest guest]

In a message dated 08/18/2002 11:34:02 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

hallkids@... writes:

> What does one use for pain relief that doesn't make you feel wierd? I have

> used vicodin off and on - it works really well for about three weeks but

> then it makes me very cranky so I have to stop taking it - can't be mean to

> the family! Currently I'm taking ultram and a new one, Ultracet which is

> ultram with tylenol but it's not very effective and I'm concerned about the

> amount of Tylenol I'm taking

Welcome, . Hope you find the members as helpful, informative,

supportive, and caring as I have.

Because of " out of sight " liver function tests, I can no longer take anything

containing acetaminophen - at least until they find out what's going on. I

have not found Darvon to make me feel weird. Maybe it's something that would

work for you; talk to your doc about it.

{{{And Pain-free Wishes}}}

Carol

" In the little decisions of life, use your mind; in the big decisions, use

your heart " [author unknown]

[Guest guest]

,

I know this is late I'm way behind on my emails, but what we did when no one

would help me (we lived in a small town too) we moved back home. I was 5 months

pregnant and felt great then, but knew the stuff was going to come back with a

vengence as soon as I had my baby. I was right. I have been through a bunch of

doctors, but I'm finally with one that seems to care and want to help. But, we

knew that after the baby was born it would be bad and I'm sure glad we moved

back home (home is about 10 times larger!).

Sorry, that's all the advice I have cause it is the only thing that worked.

Love,

Kathy

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[Guest guest]

Welcome Toni!!

I felt like your post was written by me, as it SO what I feel also!!

Especially now when I'm in a really dark place, I just felt so horrible

yesterday when I KNEW that I couldn't get the house all clean before the

weekend, as I was raised to get things in place before the weekend.

People who haven't experienced our situations just don't know how much

living with the pain and frustation takes it's tole on our energy level!!

And this is also a problem when it comes to doctors who ask us to " define

the pain " . I mean, how can one " describe " the variations of pain and

irritation we live with?

Welcome, and know that you are not alone!!

It looks like we both have at least husbands who understand us, and who

love us despite the pain and memory loss...etc, etc...

That is at least a real blessing, as many do not have an understanding

" other half " . And it's something that shouldn't be taken for granted!!

I myself am glad we don't have any children, as I just couldn't deal with

that situation. But we do have a small Birman cattery, so there's enough to

do with that!!) I can understand how extra stressed out you are with four

children. It must be tough!!

Welcome to the list, Toni!!

Hugs & tears,

- H -

>Hello, Everyone.

>

>My name is Toni and I'm 37 years old, happily married, and the mother of

>four (16, 10, 5, and 3). I was diagnosed with fibromyalgia three years ago,

>after the birth of my last child. I think it was triggered by a nasty fall I

>took right before I had the baby. Anyway, I have good days and bad days like

>everyone else. Today is a good day. Yesterday was horrible. I spent most of

>the day sleeping and crying. I had a good sobfest on my hubby's shoulder and

>felt much better. It is just that every so often my armor cracks and I have

>to just let go. I spend my good days trying to make up for my bad days. My

>house is a disaster. The kids just don't understand what I am going through

>and my husband is working a lot. So, I try not to let it get to me, but it

>does. Everyone says just do what you can, but they don't have to live in it.

>

>Anyway, I felt the need for some understanding and support as we all do, I'm

>sure. So, here I am.

>

>I live near Atlanta, GA. I am a writer (fiction and essays). I also enjoy

>crocheting and roleplaying games.

>

>As for treatment, I am currently taking Zanaflex, Zoloft, and Ultram. The

>Ultram is fine for my 'good' days, but a lot of days it doesn't even take

>the edge off. I plan to take it up with my pain specialist. I just wish

>they'd find a cure for this. I miss the person I used to be. The thing I

>hate the most is not the pain, but the fatigue that makes it impossible to

>think. I have a lot of writing projects that I am working on, but rarely

>feel up to tackling.

>

>I look forward to chatting with all of you. Thanks for allowing me to share.

>

>Toni

>

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

In a message dated 09/07/2002 6:17:19 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

Willowyn@... writes:

> Anyway, I felt the need for some understanding and support as we all do, I'm

> sure. So, here I am.

>

Welcome to the group, Toni. You came to just the right place for

understanding and support, as well as information and caring. And you are

most welcome to vent when you need to and tell us good things, too. Sounds

like your DH is a real gem. Are the 2 older children and your DH able to

help you around the house? Think they should? I have attached a letter that

you can give to you family, friends, etc., that may give them a better idea

of what's happening with you. If it doesn't come through, just e-mail me and

I'll do a cut and paste. Actually, I have attached two - use the one that's

best for you. [OTHERS IN GROUP: Remember that attachments are now allowed

through, so don't look for them.]

{{{And Pain-free Wishes}}}

Carol

" In the little decisions of life, use your mind; in the big decisions, use

your heart " [author unknown]

[Guest guest]

who is your doctor, fern?

[Guest guest]

Hi Fern!

Welcome. I'm in Aubrey just outside of Denton.

Kim

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Fern FrancisSent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 10:37 AMTo: texas_thyroid_groups Subject: Introduction

Hello,

My name is Fern and I live in the ville, TX area. I am hypothyroid and looking for others in my area who have this condition. The doctor I have been using for the past 4 years recently died so I am working with a new doctor on getting my thyroid and bio-identical hormones balanced. Looking forward to joining your group.

Thank you,

Fern

[Guest guest]

Who is your doc, and which thyroid meds does he prescribe?Fern Francis wrote: Hello, My name is Fern and I live in the ville, TX area. I am hypothyroid and looking for others in my area who have this condition. The doctor I have been using for the past 4 years recently died so I am working with a new doctor on getting my thyroid and bio-identical hormones balanced. Looking forward to joining your group. Thank you, Fern

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The doctor I was using was Dr. Fran Rose in Irving. I have recently had my levels tested by Sullivan of Tiena health and have an appt. for a followup with him on Sept. 1st. I am on armour thyroid.

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 3:31 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Introduction

Who is your doc, and which thyroid meds does he prescribe?Fern Francis <ffran1verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

Hello,

My name is Fern and I live in the ville, TX area. I am hypothyroid and looking for others in my area who have this condition. The doctor I have been using for the past 4 years recently died so I am working with a new doctor on getting my thyroid and bio-identical hormones balanced. Looking forward to joining your group.

Thank you,

Fern

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[Guest guest]

We have another member who was a patient of Rose. She had a hard time finding a doc willing to keep her on the high doses of Armour and hydrocortisone that Rose had prescribed for her. Did you have any problem in that department? A lot of folks were devastated by the death of Dr. Rose. Let us know how things go with Sullivan. He is on our list, but we only know one other person who has seen him. Fern Francis wrote: The doctor I was using was Dr. Fran Rose in Irving. I have recently had my levels tested by Sullivan of Tiena health and have an appt. for a followup with him on Sept. 1st. I am on armour thyroid. From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Sunday, August 27, 2006 3:31 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Introduction Who is your doc, and which thyroid meds does he prescribe?Fern Francis

<ffran1verizon (DOT) net> wrote: Hello, My name is Fern and I live in the ville, TX area. I am hypothyroid and looking for others in my area who have this condition. The doctor I have been using for the past 4 years recently died so I am working with a new doctor on getting my thyroid and bio-identical hormones balanced. Looking forward to joining your group. Thank you, Fern __________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Fern,

How did you feel when you were on the dosages Dr. Rose prescribed? I think that may be more important than just looking at the numbers.

Carol

> > Hello,> My name is Fern and I live in the ville, TX area. I am hypothyroid and> looking for others in my area who have this condition. The doctor I have> been using for the past 4 years recently died so I am working with a new> doctor on getting my thyroid and bio-identical hormones balanced. Looking> forward to joining your group.> > Thank you,> Fern> > __________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

There were times when I could tell I was on too much armour, then of course we lowered my dose. I have to say I felt good on the cortisone, but like my other doctor says, "well, that is what streoids do, they make you feel good" but they are dangerous to be on long term. I don't know who is right. I do know from my last lab work that my levels of dhea is way high, my testesterone is too high and tsh is .01. I have been told that too much thyroid can have some of the same effects as too little. It all takes experimenting around with though, I am anxious to see how I do and feel with Sullivan treating me. My MD has agreed to let me use someone else for hormone replacement and thyroid and he will treat me otherwise.

I try to trip/snip posts but don't seem to be able to. What's the trick on that?

Fern

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of carol77096Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 5:15 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: Re: Introduction

Fern,

How did you feel when you were on the dosages Dr. Rose prescribed? I think that may be more important than just looking at the numbers.

Carol

> > Hello,> My name is Fern and I live in the ville, TX area. I am hypothyroid and> looking for others in my area who have this condition. The doctor I have> been using for the past 4 years recently died so I am working with a new> doctor on getting my thyroid and bio-identical hormones balanced. Looking> forward to joining your group.> > Thank you,> Fern> > __________________________________________________>

[Guest guest]

Edit your membership and choose the "traditional view."Fern Francis wrote: There were times when I could tell I was on too much armour, then of course we lowered my dose. I have to say I felt good on the cortisone, but like my other doctor says, "well, that is what streoids do, they make you feel good" but they are dangerous to be on long term. I don't know who is right. I do know from my last lab work that my levels of dhea is way high, my testesterone is too high and tsh is .01. I have been told that too much thyroid can have some of the same effects as too

little. It all takes experimenting around with though, I am anxious to see how I do and feel with Sullivan treating me. My MD has agreed to let me use someone else for hormone replacement and thyroid and he will treat me otherwise. I try to trip/snip posts but don't seem to be able to. What's the trick on that? Fern

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[Guest guest]

Thankyou!

From: Texas_Thyroid_Groups [mailto:Texas_Thyroid_Groups ] On Behalf Of Jan Sent: Monday, August 28, 2006 11:25 PMTo: Texas_Thyroid_Groups Subject: RE: Re: Introduction

Edit your membership and choose the "traditional view."Fern Francis <ffran1verizon (DOT) net> wrote:

There were times when I could tell I was on too much armour, then of course we lowered my dose. I have to say I felt good on the cortisone, but like my other doctor says, "well, that is what streoids do, they make you feel good" but they are dangerous to be on long term. I don't know who is right. I do know from my last lab work that my levels of dhea is way high, my testesterone is too high and tsh is .01. I have been told that too much thyroid can have some of the same effects as too little. It all takes experimenting around with though, I am anxious to see how I do and feel with Sullivan treating me. My MD has agreed to let me use someone else for hormone replacement and thyroid and he will treat me otherwise.

I try to trip/snip posts but don't seem to be able to. What's the trick on that?

Fern

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[Guest guest]

Hu Madhuri. There are alot of nice people here. I first had this in 1972 at

age 16. I take Nsaids like meds. When I have a flare that has fevers and

stuff, I wait it out. It goes away for me in about 8 months. Others have not

had

this luck. They have some good days but they need to try all kinds of meds.

Usually something will work. Everyone is different. I am sorry you are so

young and have to deal with this. Others here will tell you there story and

what

helps them !! Liz NJ

[Guest guest]

Madhuri ,

Hello, my name is Tracilyn and I was diagnosed in 2004 with Still's.

You have found a wonderful place and lots of i nformation on treatments and

support.

Tracilyn

[Guest guest]

Hi Madhuri,

My name is & I was diagnosed in 2006 after being ill for almost 2 years.

I'm sorry you've got this disease but you will find lots of information here as

well as great people.

Take Care,

Chris

madhuri gaike wrote:

Hi!

Thanks for giving me your membership.

My name is madhuri. My B'Date is 07.03.1974.

Last year in the month of December I experienced still's disease. Now a days I

have lot of joint pains. I am very much tired about joint pains.Try to give

information about alternate medicines.

thank you

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[Guest guest]

Dear Madhuri,

welcome to the mailing list...I have only recently joined myself and have

found it to be very useful. It is great to have somewhere to come to and ask all

the questions which often no one else (incl. the doctors) can answer.

I hope you will start feeling better soon and that your joint pain will get

better too.

Best wishes.

(UK)

madhuri gaike wrote:

Hi!

Thanks for giving me your membership.

My name is madhuri. My B'Date is 07.03.1974.

Last year in the month of December I experienced still's disease. Now a days I

have lot of joint pains. I am very much tired about joint pains.Try to give

information about alternate medicines.

thank you

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You'll love Dr. K Wow... I went to that meeting on a whim....

and who have thunk anyone was even listening. LOL

Ya know I couldn't say it in the meeting... cause you know... Rabkin

was there... but Dr. Keshishian has like ALOT of experience with

revisions. I would bet it's more then Rabkin... at least the

younger Rabkin.

Welcome to the group!!

--Kym

>

> Hi all - thanks so much for having me in your group. I became

aware of Dr. K. when I met a nice lady named Kym at the DS support

group in Seattle area a few weeks ago. She has done so well with

her surgery and is an inspiration and kindly shared a lot of

personal experience at the meeting.

[Guest guest]

Kym - well, if Dr. K gives a referral bonus or whatever, I will be glad to

mention your name; it was definitely you who made me aware of him and you are

certainly a walking advertisement for his great care. I was ready to go to

Rabkin, but my Cigna ins has Dr. K on their network and not Rabkin, so now if I

can just get them to approve the revision, I am in good hands.

Does Dr. K attend any of the support groups in CA or anywhere else? I would

love to meet him and get to hear him speak.

Lynn

Seattle

Re: Introduction

You'll love Dr. K Wow... I went to that meeting on a whim....

and who have thunk anyone was even listening. LOL

Ya know I couldn't say it in the meeting... cause you know... Rabkin

was there... but Dr. Keshishian has like ALOT of experience with

revisions. I would bet it's more then Rabkin... at least the

younger Rabkin.

Welcome to the group!!

--Kym

>

> Hi all - thanks so much for having me in your group. I became

aware of Dr. K. when I met a nice lady named Kym at the DS support

group in Seattle area a few weeks ago. She has done so well with

her surgery and is an inspiration and kindly shared a lot of

personal experience at the meeting.

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> You'll love Dr. K Wow... I went to that meeting on a whim....

> and who have thunk anyone was even listening.

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Isn't it cool to know when you have an impact on a persons life!

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