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Carol,

You know after everything I've been checking for Lyme disease is one that isn't

on the list. I also lived in Wyoming for three years so that fact should make

me a good candidate for that test. Thanks for the idea since I'm going to the

doctor (again) tomorrow to get my meds refilled and discuss my liver situation.

I think I'll bring this up and see what he thinks.

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Kathy

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Hi,

I use to be tested all the time. When I first became ill and they

were doing spinal taps on me all the time they would send my csf for

testing including lymes. It always came back negative. It is a great

idea for everyone with symptoms to get a lymes test.

Take care,

> In a message dated 06/25/2002 9:55 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

> MomNPain@y... writes:

>

> > I have a very cooperative and understanding doc who doesn't mind

checking

> > out some other possibility if it could be of a help to me.

>

> Kathy and All:

>

> How many of us have been tested for Lyme Disease through the Western

Blot and

> PRC lab tests? It can mimic most of what all of us have. I'm going

to try

> and get the doc to order those for me. A friend of mine was like

all of us

> and finally, because a doc wouldn't do it, went outside her HMO and

paid for

> an ARNP to draw the blood and send it to a research scientist in

Palm Harbor,

> FL. [bTW, this scientist has an MD and is board certified in about 5

> specialties.] She came back positive for Lyme Disease. She was put on

> doxycyline 200 mg am and 200 mg pm and she is now feeling great.

>

> The normal range most docs use for diagnosing Lyme Disease is that

the test

> results have to be over 70. The scientist [and, I have to admit, I]

believe

> that even if the test comes back as 10, there is evidence of Lyme

Disease.

> However, I haven't done enough research on it yet as I just found

out about

> this on Friday.

>

> If anyone is interested in this topic, here is the link to the Lyme

Disease

> web site:

>

> <A HREF= " http://www.lymenet.org/ " >Lyme Disease Network</A>

> http://www.lymenet.org/

>

> {{{And Pain-free Wishes}}}

> Carol

>

> " In the little decisions of life, use your mind; in the big

decisions, use

> your heart " [author unknown]

>

>

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In a message dated 07/02/2002 9:57:53 AM Eastern Daylight Time,

MomNPain@... writes:

> I think I'll bring this up and see what he thinks

Kathy:

What did doc say?

{{{And Pain-free Wishes}}}

Carol

" In the little decisions of life, use your mind; in the big decisions, use

your heart " [author unknown]

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In a message dated 07/02/2002 8:43:53 PM Eastern Daylight Time,

abushrn@... writes:

> It always came back negative. It is a great idea for everyone with symptoms

> to get a Lyme's test.

>

:

Did the tests come back negative or within the normal range the lab sets? If

within the normal range and there is some value [such as, 40], it seems to me

that you have it to some degree.

{{{And Pain-free Wishes}}}

Carol

" In the little decisions of life, use your mind; in the big decisions, use

your heart " [author unknown]

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I was told that unless you have a western blot OR a spinal fluid

analysis that you may not be getting the most accurate readings with

this test. One of my former classmates has this disease, he was

misdiagnosed for years even when they ran routine bloodwork only had

minor deviations in some levels, was overlooked;

Whatever the specifics were, when they ran one of those other tests,

they found it. His term paper was on Lyme's, I wish I'd saved a copy

(will check to see if I still have it when I get home!) Happy 4th

goodnight/morning

the packrat who probably still has the papers here (from 1997)

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Hi,

It always came back negative as far as I know. I had all my taps

done back when Lymes disease was just discovered. I doubt that I have

it and I think they were checking for it just to be complete. It was

really obvious why I was having so many headaches. My skull was well

over 5 times thicker then normal and my opening pressures were over

five timesw higher then normal. I had moderate papilledema and the

classic morning headaches which are all indicitave of high ICP.

I am going to see if my husband can somehow get my scans on the

computer. My head scans are something to see. Back when I had my

last skull surgery my neurosurgeon made a website so that I could see

the photos of my surgery. My husband has the photos on a disk I

believe. My neurosurgeon knew I was a neurosurgical nurse and he

asked if I wanted to see them. He had taken them as he was writting

me up in the pediatric neurosurgery journal. My pregnancy and

delivery of my daughter was also written up in the high risk OB

journal. I have been written up several times. Its what you get for

having a rare disorder.

> In a message dated 07/02/2002 8:43:53 PM Eastern Daylight Tiwas ome,

> abushrn@y... writes:

>

>

> > It always came back negative. It is a great idea for everyone

with symptoms

> > to get a Lyme's test.

> >

> :

>

> Did the tests come back negative or within the normal range the lab

sets? If

> within the normal range and there is some value [such as, 40], it

seems to me

> that you have it to some degree.

>

> {{{And Pain-free Wishes}}}

> Carol

>

> " In the little decisions of life, use your mind; in the big

decisions, use

> your heart " [author unknown]

>

>

>

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  • 5 years later...

During a radio interview the host mentioned that she'd had no success

with the Rife machine for her Lyme Disease but admitted she might not

have the correct frequency. What are the best frequencies for treating

Lyme Disease?

Thanks.

Alan

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#40 minutes

# www.truerife.com

#Also Run Mycoplasma Fermentans and Parasite sets as well as Effectrolysis set.

#Here is some of the findings from research that I have in my clinic plus my

protocol for treatment of the Lymes disease. Lyme disease is the fastest-growing

epidemic in the world. The Center for Disease Control in Atlanta, Georgia

affirms that “there is considerable under-reporting” of Lyme disease,

maintaining that the actual infection rate may be 1.8 million, 10 times higher

than the 180,000 cases currently reported. Nick , Ph.D., Director of the

International Lyme and Associated Diseases Society (ILADS), states “Lyme is

grossly under-reported. In the U.S. we probably have about 200,000 cases per

year. Lee Cowden, M.D., states that there are very few symptoms where one

should not consider Lyme, especially given that a quarter of the U.S. population

may be infected. It is estimated that Lyme disease may be a contributing factor

in more than 50% chronically ill people.

#The Lyme bacteria Borrelia burgdorferi (Bb) a spirochete baceria is not just

passed by an arthropod, or tick bite. In addition to tick bites, published

research indicates Bb may be carried by fleas, mosquitos, and mites. New

research indicates it can be passed from mother through the placenta and mothers

milk. University of Wisconsin researchers state that dairy cattle and other food

animals can be infected with the JB. Burgdorferi and hence some raw foods of

animal origin might be contaminated with the pathogen. Recent findings indicate

that the pathogen may be transmitted orally to laboratory animals, without an

arthropod vector. Thus, the possibility exists that Lyme disease can be a food

infection. Compelling evidence supports horizontal (sexual) and vertical

(congenital) human to human transfer. It also has the possibility of being

transferred through blood transfusions.

#As you can see the spirochete bacteria (Lyme disease) should be seriously

considered when chronic symptoms are diagnosed as Chronic Fatigue, Fibromylagia,

ALS, Alzheimers Disease, IBS, Lupus, MS, Scleroderma and a host of other

diagnosis.

#Now for the diagnosis. What test you get at a physicians office I have been

told by a nurse is only 40% accurate. You need a live cell analysis by a

technician trained in looking for the spirochete bacteria. I have that available

in my area. I have been treating for Lyme for the past year and have found great

success using TOA free CATS CLAW, (una de gato) and running the Lyme program 1

to 3 times per week through the effectrolosis. The TOA free Cats Claw is

different from regular cats claw. You must use the TOA free. This herb kills

the bacteria and the Rife lyme program helps kill and detox it out of the

system. I am seeing complete resolution of the bacteria in 3 months.

#After another live cell analysis confirms no more bacteria than a program of

rebuilding the body at the cellular level is important. The bacteria gets into

the body tissue and travels around. Destroying tissue in muscle, organs, eyes,

and even the brain. A person needs to be on the cell rebuilding program 6

months to a year.

#A pilot study treated 28 patients with Advanced Chronic Lyme Disease with

TOA-free Uncaria tomentosa (cat’s claw). Conventional cat’s claw contains TOA

alkaloids that interfere with the desired immune modulation. The 14 person

control group was given antibiotic therapy. At the study’s termination 85 % of

those receiving the cat’s claw preparation no longer had positive blood tests

for Bb. All 28 persons had experienced a dramatic improvement in their clinical

condition. No significant changes were seen in the control group.

#Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever (RMSF) is an infection that is transmitted by

ticks. The signs and symptoms of RMSF may follow within 1-14 days of a tick

bite. But in many cases, someone who develops the infection does not remember

being bitten by a tick.

#Symptoms of Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever usually begin suddenly. There is a

high fever - often 103F (39C) to 105F (40C) - with chills, muscle aches and a

severe headache that may center around the forehead area. Eyes may become red,

muscles may be tender to the touch, and there may be generalized body swelling.

#The rash that makes Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever a " spotted " fever may begin

anytime between 1-10 days after the fever and headache start, but it most often

appears on the third to fifth day. The rash looks like small red spots or

blotches that begin on the wrists, ankles, palms and soles. It spreads up the

arms and legs toward the trunk, but often spares the face. As the Rocky Mountain

Spotted Fever infection progresses, the original red spots may change in

appearance to look more like bruises or bloody patches under the skin.

#Rarely, Rocky Mountain Spotted Fever may cause either mild symptoms or no

symptoms at all. But usually it causes a moderate to severe illness that can

damage the liver, kidneys and lungs. Before antibiotic treatment was available,

about 20-30 percent of people with the infection would die. But antibiotics have

helped to decrease much of the suffering and danger resulting from the

infection.

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#28 minutes

# Jim Bare experimental fundamental frequencies

# Run this program after the Lyme_RockyMtn.frq on the bulb

#From 1 to 4 weeks after being infected with the bacteria that cause Lyme

disease, up to 90% of people develop an expanding, circular red skin rash

(called erythema migrans, or EM, rash).4 While most people develop a red rash

that may spread out in the shape of a circle, about 40% will develop what is

called a " bull's-eye " EM rash, with a pale center area surrounded by a bright

red rim.

#The rash is accompanied by flu like symptoms in up to 50% of people who have

Lyme disease. The flu like symptoms can include:

#Fatigue (the most common symptom).

#Headache and stiff neck.

#Fever (may be high in children, but this is rare) and chills.

#Muscle and joint pain.

#Swollen lymph nodes.

#If Lyme disease is not detected and treated while early symptoms are present,

or if a person does not have early symptoms that trigger the need for treatment,

the infection may spread to the skin, joints, nervous system, and heart.

#Heart and nervous system problems may develop weeks to months after the initial

infection (early disseminated Lyme disease). Symptoms of this stage may include:

#Persistent fatigue.

#Additional skin rashes (not from tick bite).

#Pain, weakness, or numbness in the arms or legs.

#Inability to control the muscles of the face (paralysis of the facial nerves).

#Recurring headaches or fainting.

#Poor memory and reduced ability to concentrate.

#Conjunctivitis (pink eye) or sometimes damage to deep tissue in the eyes.

#Occasional palpitations, or in rare cases, serious heart problems (occurs in up

to 10% of people)

# Rife can cause serious herxeimer reactions. Allow 3 months to one year for

complete resolution of Lyme while Rifeing.

# quote from http://www.lymephotos.com/faq/index.html

#We use 1-gram Sodium Chloride USP tablets made by the Consolidated Midland

Corporation (CMC). We order these through our local pharmacy. They are not a

prescription drug, but not having widespread use are rarely a stock item and

need to be special-ordered. The CMC salt pills have an NDC # of 0223-1760-01,

which should help your pharmacist locate the exact type. The cost is about $10

US for a bottle of 100 tablets. We usually order a dozen bottles at a time to

make it worth the pharmacy's effort. Given the costs of other treatments and the

long-term debilitating nature of lyme disease, we think this cost is acceptable.

Another source (AmericaRx.com) for salt tablets is available over the internet.

#Question: Can I use sea salt?

#Answer: Any salt should help your condition, but it takes quite a bit to really

get the effects you want. One teaspoon of salt is equal to approximately 6

grams; therefore, consider starting with a quarter teaspoon of salt in a large

glass of water. The salt tablets are in a compressed form that can be easily

administered. Sea salt, as well as ordinary table salt, also contains other

compounds and we think it is the sodium chloride itself which does the trick.

Our fear is that some salts contain multiple elements and these additions may

compromise the treatment. The added elements could aid the parasites in their

survival.

#Question: Is this much salt and vitamin C safe?

#Answer: Salt and vitamin C are both water soluble.This means that as long as

you are getting enough water into your system your body will flush out the

excess. But for the average sufferer, there will be no excess. Your body will

use up whatever you give it or flush it out in your urine. Again, drink plenty

of water. We have all heard about the proverbial 8 glasses of water per day. We

recommend a full glass of water each time you take the pills. A side effect of

the treatment in the dying off of the organisms is diarrhea. But be prepared for

the weird sensation caused by the organisms' using any and all paths to escape

the salt and vitamin C. You will feel but not see these creatures coming out all

over your body.

#Question: Can anyone use the salt and vitamin C treatment?

#Answer: We see no reason not to try the protocol, no matter how old or young.

The dosage should be relative to body weight. Therefore, if one was going to put

a small child on the treatment, they might want to reach a 4 to 6 gram total on

both the salt and C. Remember, drink plenty of water.

#Question: How much salt is too much?

#Answer: In our research we could only find this tidbit of information that

might be of some help. In ancient eastern customs, when a man dishonored his

family, he committed suicide using his sacred sword. Women were not allowed to

touch these swords, so upon their dishonor, they committed suicide by consuming

one pound of salt in a day, and were dead by morning. Now, our treatment

recommends approximately 8 to 16 grams of salt and vitamin C per day depending

on body weight. One pound of salt is equivalent to 453.59 grams; therefore, our

recommendation is less than 3% of a pound per day. We do not believe this is a

harmful amount. As mentioned, for centuries people consumed approximately 20

grams per day due to the way foods were processed and personal taste. We have

tried consuming more salt than we recommend and have had no ill effects, we just

feel that the body can only process a certain amount to combat the pathogens and

the rest was leaving through

the urine. Again, judging from one's body weight we recommend 8 to 16 grams of

each per day, divided into smaller dosages throughout the day. Always take the

salt and vitamin C together with a full glass of water, maybe every two or three

hours.

#Question: Why do you believe this works?

#Answer: Salt has been considered a bactericide for thousands of years. As far

as the worms go, have you ever put salt on a slug? The salt sucks the life out

of them. We have made their environment intolerable. The vitamin C rejuvenates

your body, allowing your cells to rebuild.

#Question: How long will I have to take the treatment?

#Answer: We think it is relative to how long you have had the illness. Bacteria

and microfilarial worms reproduce at an astounding rate; therefore, the longer

you have had the illness, the longer it will take to get rid of all the

organisms. For some, the treatment could take 2 to 3 years.

#Question: Can you explain the contradiction on the site regarding the

nematomorphs protecting the bacteria, yet also attacking and consuming them?

#Answer: Just as humans raise and care for their food supplies, such as cattle,

they brutally club and feed off the herds.

#Question: Why do you not recommend using an antihelminthic such as Ivermectin?

#Answer: Ivermectin only temporarily reduces larval production; therefore, it

does not eliminate the infection. Since it does not cure and because it has some

major side effects, we do not recommend this treatment.

#Question: Can I add other products such as catsclaw,wormwood,walnut hulls, rife

machine, or whatever else sounds feasible?

#Answer: We feel that it would be a major mistake to add anything else to the

treatment. Since, in reality, we know so little about these organisms and their

propensity to survive. We know that the salt and vitamin C treatment kills the

pathogens. We do not know what possible effects other elements added to the

treatment may have. Salt and Vitamin C occur naturally in nature. It is just

lately that our consumption of salt is so low. We believe that the salt and C

treatment is the one thing that truly works against this disease.

#Question:Do you have any other recommendations while doing this treatment?

#Answer: Ultra-violet light kills nematodes, bacteria, viruses, and many other

microorganisms. Try to spend fifteen minutes per day outside in bright sunlight.

Do not use sunscreen. Do not stay out long enough to burn. Feel free to repeat

these 15 minute sun sessions throughout the day. The old practice of taking our

sick out into the sunlight made sense; ultra-violet light kills germs. Salt

water baths are also very helpful. Add table salt to your bath until the water

is saturated; that is, until no more salt can be absorbed. Four cylinder

canisters of table salt is probably the amount needed for the average size tub.

#Question:Why do I start feeling like I have beaten this illness, and then all

of a sudden I feel sick again?

#Answer: The salt and Vitamin C kill the active organisms, yet many more lie

dormant in your tissues. It is believed that the absence of a pheromone,

possibly daumone, awakens the hibernating organisms and the cycle begins again.

The treatment must continue to kill off the newly awakened worms. This process

may take years for some, unfortunately; however, with each die-off cycle, you

will feel a little better, until you get them all.

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Lyme Disease

During a radio interview the host mentioned that she'd had no success

with the Rife machine for her Lyme Disease but admitted she might not

have the correct frequency. What are the best frequencies for treating

Lyme Disease?

Thanks.

Alan

UnBreak Your Health

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