Re: Older kids

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Only attempt this with him if you make diet changes first since he

already has yeast. Diet change 1 month with an rx antifungal 2 weeks

into the new diet, and HIGH dose probiotics from Custom Probiotics

rotating their autism blend with their acidoph blend....1 month...see

where this takes you...read Overcoming Autism and Engaging Autism if

you have not already...the strategies in the first book got our NV son

talking but you have to wake up the brain first, stop injuring the gut

and feeding the pathogens or no antiviral will do much for you

IMO...there is no magic pill or intervention unfortunately....DIET is

the biggest intervention of all....valtrex per this site has been

disastrous for those who feed lots of carbs sugars ans starches or do

not have an rx antifungal on board while trying to heal their kids....i

believe the older kids can be healed and get big gains IF the gut is

prepped and the parents have a will of iron to turn their lives into

Autism Island for a bit...no bad foods and no outings where it will be

impossible to enforce the restrictions. Did you see the recent People

article about the family with 6 kids all autistic? Did you notice the

photograph with the kids all munching on colored ice cream cones

etc...God Bless that family, but those kids are not going to get better

even if you poured valtrex into them bc of the foods that they are

eating are helping to create the gut issues that are a BIG part of the

autism in most of our kids.....they are hosts and prisoners of yest,

parasites, bacteria...so sad. And even sadder is the fact that it was

a Christian family...eating a diet that violates all biblical

principals - if you believe that book does have divine knowledge about

what is good for Man emotionally, spiritually, and physically...the

irony.

Please do an inventory of what your child eats and know that even in

the Middle Ages when plagues of measles and smallpox swept Europe and

tens of thousands died from it...many Jewish communities lost far far

fewer people bc they knew that in the aftermath of illness those who

were sick had to eat ONLY CHICKEN BROTH and bone broths, sometimes for

weeks...bit of smashed veggies, piece of bread woaked in the broths to

sustain them while their guts healsed and any bad bugs were starved to

death....receover of humnas HAS ALWAYS ALWAYS been about the diet first

all other interventions after that...and the diet is the hardest thing

to manipulate WE KNOW....but it is the thing that will ultimately give

him the best shot at healing...back to baby days and easy to digest

baby type foods and then hit those viruses...I think you will be quite

amazed at wher HIGH DOSE probiotics abnd diet coupled with the

therapies takes you in prep for do ing the antiviral protocol the right

way....God bless you and good luck. Di LOVE IS FEEDING THEM THINGS

THAT DO NO HARM...everything else is just self comfort. Get mad at the

autism. Decide your child will no longer be a host, and then go to war

for his gut and his brain and get him back, mom.

>

> Anyone have older kids just starting antivirals? This is all new for

us

> & our severe son is 13. He was vacc'd injured as a baby. He's been a

> non responder to most everything, including chelation. Lots of yeast;

> I've posted about his virals & the test. Hoping this treatment will

do

> something for him. He's totally non verbal.

>

> Thx, Michele

>

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He's been GFCF for 6yrs; gets some enzymes as well (HNI). Tried SCD

Fall 2006 about 4m; didn't do anything for him.

When I said " this is all new to us " I meant the virals. He's been on

probiotics *forever*; various yeast treatments here & there. Nothing

has made a differnce. I have Brainchild yeast protocol coming in soon

to try. Our practitioner wanted me to try nystatin again (did once

before) so he's on it again. Haven't tried diflucan for him; was too

strong for my 2yo. He's been getting Custom Probiotcs for weeks now;

had him on Threelac for weeks with no differnce. He's on a break from

that now & I'm deciding whether to reintroduce it.

Best,

Michele

> >

> > Anyone have older kids just starting antivirals? This is all new

for

> us

> > & our severe son is 13. He was vacc'd injured as a baby. He's

been a

> > non responder to most everything, including chelation. Lots of

yeast;

> > I've posted about his virals & the test. Hoping this treatment

will

> do

> > something for him. He's totally non verbal.

> >

> > Thx, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

I've also tried many other supps in past years; nothing has made a

difference.He's on several now still (minerals, amino acids, etc)

The only 2 things I can pinpoint that has done anything for him is

DMG (was tmg, just switched himto dmg with no probs); helped with

mood & sleep (not speech). Also, GFCF, helped with mood & sleep. He

still has troubles with both at times though. Was a lot worse prior

to diet.

Michele

> >

> > Anyone have older kids just starting antivirals? This is all new

for

> us

> > & our severe son is 13. He was vacc'd injured as a baby. He's

been a

> > non responder to most everything, including chelation. Lots of

yeast;

> > I've posted about his virals & the test. Hoping this treatment

will

> do

> > something for him. He's totally non verbal.

> >

> > Thx, Michele

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Hi all,

Everyone says HIGH dose probiotics. What is

considered high? Can someone put it into a

simple formula, ie x pounds in body weight to x

billion probiotic.

Kim

--- diatplay wrote:

> Only attempt this with him if you make diet

> changes first since he

> already has yeast. Diet change 1 month with an

> rx antifungal 2 weeks

> into the new diet, and HIGH dose probiotics

> from Custom Probiotics

> rotating their autism blend with their acidoph

> blend....1 month...see

> where this takes you...read Overcoming Autism

> and Engaging Autism if

> you have not already...the strategies in the

> first book got our NV son

> talking but you have to wake up the brain

> first, stop injuring the gut

> and feeding the pathogens or no antiviral will

> do much for you

> IMO...there is no magic pill or intervention

> unfortunately....DIET is

> the biggest intervention of all....valtrex per

> this site has been

> disastrous for those who feed lots of carbs

> sugars ans starches or do

> not have an rx antifungal on board while trying

> to heal their kids....i

> believe the older kids can be healed and get

> big gains IF the gut is

> prepped and the parents have a will of iron to

> turn their lives into

> Autism Island for a bit...no bad foods and no

> outings where it will be

> impossible to enforce the restrictions. Did

> you see the recent People

> article about the family with 6 kids all

> autistic? Did you notice the

> photograph with the kids all munching on

> colored ice cream cones

> etc...God Bless that family, but those kids are

> not going to get better

> even if you poured valtrex into them bc of the

> foods that they are

> eating are helping to create the gut issues

> that are a BIG part of the

> autism in most of our kids.....they are hosts

> and prisoners of yest,

> parasites, bacteria...so sad. And even sadder

> is the fact that it was

> a Christian family...eating a diet that

> violates all biblical

> principals - if you believe that book does have

> divine knowledge about

> what is good for Man emotionally, spiritually,

> and physically...the

> irony.

>

> Please do an inventory of what your child eats

> and know that even in

> the Middle Ages when plagues of measles and

> smallpox swept Europe and

> tens of thousands died from it...many Jewish

> communities lost far far

> fewer people bc they knew that in the aftermath

> of illness those who

> were sick had to eat ONLY CHICKEN BROTH and

> bone broths, sometimes for

> weeks...bit of smashed veggies, piece of bread

> woaked in the broths to

> sustain them while their guts healsed and any

> bad bugs were starved to

> death....receover of humnas HAS ALWAYS ALWAYS

> been about the diet first

> all other interventions after that...and the

> diet is the hardest thing

> to manipulate WE KNOW....but it is the thing

> that will ultimately give

> him the best shot at healing...back to baby

> days and easy to digest

> baby type foods and then hit those viruses...I

> think you will be quite

> amazed at wher HIGH DOSE probiotics abnd diet

> coupled with the

> therapies takes you in prep for do ing the

> antiviral protocol the right

> way....God bless you and good luck. Di LOVE

> IS FEEDING THEM THINGS

> THAT DO NO HARM...everything else is just self

> comfort. Get mad at the

> autism. Decide your child will no longer be a

> host, and then go to war

> for his gut and his brain and get him back,

> mom.

> >

> > Anyone have older kids just starting

> antivirals? This is all new for

> us

> > & our severe son is 13. He was vacc'd injured

> as a baby. He's been a

> > non responder to most everything, including

> chelation. Lots of yeast;

> > I've posted about his virals & the test.

> Hoping this treatment will

> do

> > something for him. He's totally non verbal.

> >

> > Thx, Michele

> >

>

>

>

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No problem...I almost fainted when I was first told...i was like that

cannot be right....well, my kiddo is having bms everyday, at least

once now, and his once HUGE bloated belly is almost normal sized

now...he is finally tooting, and we have only been on high dose for

about a week....my friend says by one month he should be stooling

within three hours of a meal, formed, and the consistency of soft

play do.....HIGH dose varies upon the child is based on the RESULTS I

just described...your goal is to heal and SEAL the gut. <y friends'

twins are on 400 billion CFU - colony forming units/day. Several

scoops of Custom Probiotics several times a day....Matt, my kiddo has

been having one stool a day on 30-40 billion...but the diapers are

still VERY foul and the stools are far too mushy....we are working

our way up, per the Custom Probiotics owners advise on dosing....we

are currently using our purchases from Whole Foods, but Matt needs to

swallow ten caps at a go...hence it is MUCH better to go with a

product that has a much greater concentration to get the desired

amount. Good luck.....watch the poops and the tongue and the

belly...that will tell you wht you need to dose. Di

> > >

> > > Anyone have older kids just starting

> > antivirals? This is all new for

> > us

> > > & our severe son is 13. He was vacc'd injured

> > as a baby. He's been a

> > > non responder to most everything, including

> > chelation. Lots of yeast;

> > > I've posted about his virals & the test.

> > Hoping this treatment will

> > do

> > > something for him. He's totally non verbal.

> > >

> > > Thx, Michele

> > >

> >

> >

> >

>

>

>

>

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What do you mean doing everything at once? Everything is going on at

once. I just add one thing in at a time.

How " high dose " for the probiotics? I need to know for my 2yo too. I

don't think either gets enough. My severe 13yo gets 2 baby scoops of

Custom, the 2yo 1 baby scoop.

He really doesn't eat a lot of the sugary GFCF stuff; he gets a fruit

sweetened cereal bar 1x/day. He doesn't even eat any fruit. He gets

corn products & some rice products. I had eliminated them with SCD

but didn't get anywhere; we weren't doing all this at that time

(supps were minimal during SCD).

We'll be starting Diflucan soon, for one week, then she said to start

Valtrex.

I'm not in LA...

Thx,

Michele

> > > >

> > > > Anyone have older kids just starting antivirals? This is all

> new

> > for

> > > us

> > > > & our severe son is 13. He was vacc'd injured as a baby. He's

> > been a

> > > > non responder to most everything, including chelation. Lots

of

> > yeast;

> > > > I've posted about his virals & the test. Hoping this

treatment

> > will

> > > do

> > > > something for him. He's totally non verbal.

> > > >

> > > > Thx, Michele

> > > >

> > >

> >

>