2 Mhz Limit?

[Guest guest]

I have a question about the 2MHz limit of the equipment Rife was

using. Perhaps this will be able to be answered when further research is

done.

If the carrier wave was originally limited to 2 MHz, then it seems to me

that Rife wasn't initially modulating a 2 MHz carrier at 1.604 MHz. My

concern is that there is not enough time available to form modulation

envelopes. What work I've done shows that when modulating with a

frequency equal to about 20% of the carrier frequency, there are only a

few carrier oscillations within the modulation envelope. Modulating at 80%

of the carrier frequency - don't know what will happen - but technically

there is just not enough time available to do this.

Jim Bare

[Guest guest]

jbare@... wrote:

> I have a question about the 2MHz limit of the equipment Rife was

> using. Perhaps this will be able to be answered when further research is

> done.

>

> If the carrier wave was originally limited to 2 MHz, then it seems to me

> that Rife wasn't initially modulating a 2 MHz carrier at 1.604 MHz. My

> concern is that there is not enough time available to form modulation

> envelopes. What work I've done shows that when modulating with a

> frequency equal to about 20% of the carrier frequency, there are only a

> few carrier oscillations within the modulation envelope. Modulating at 80%

> of the carrier frequency - don't know what will happen - but technically

> there is just not enough time available to do this.

>

> Jim Bare

There was no modulation or carrier. The Kennedy machines were simply

being used as oscillators, which were amplified and put through the

plasma tube. It was possible to feed one of the machines into the

other, but the wave form is not like a modulation that we're used to.

It's more of a mixing.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

jbare@... wrote:

> I have a question about the 2MHz limit of the equipment Rife was

> using. Perhaps this will be able to be answered when further research is

> done.

>

> If the carrier wave was originally limited to 2 MHz, then it seems to me

> that Rife wasn't initially modulating a 2 MHz carrier at 1.604 MHz. My

> concern is that there is not enough time available to form modulation

> envelopes. What work I've done shows that when modulating with a

> frequency equal to about 20% of the carrier frequency, there are only a

> few carrier oscillations within the modulation envelope. Modulating at 80%

> of the carrier frequency - don't know what will happen - but technically

> there is just not enough time available to do this.

>

> Jim Bare

There was no modulation or carrier. The Kennedy machines were simply

being used as oscillators, which were amplified and put through the

plasma tube. It was possible to feed one of the machines into the

other, but the wave form is not like a modulation that we're used to.

It's more of a mixing.

Regards,

[Guest guest]

>Modulating at 80%

>of the carrier frequency - don't know what will happen - but technically

>there is just not enough time available to do this.

It doesn't make sense to me either. The second oscillator,

overlapping the first in frequency range, seems unsuited to classical

AM. And points out there is no modulator present in the

generating circuit. Mixing would be a more likely rationale, to

achieve added harmonics. But I hope not, as this opens up further

uncertainty about Rife's methodology. Additional to the above is

distortion in the plasma tube. That's at least two added levels of

complexity. There would be alot of trial-and-error tuning involved

that could probably only be done with live cultures. Sound familliar?

BTW are we sure there was not a _fixed_ higher frequency carrier

hidden somewhere else in Rife's 1934 set-up? As I understand, some of

the later models incorporated this. The Abrams Oscilloclast used 43MHz.

Nielsen