Re: Crane Mor Vs Rife Mor / Hz vs Mhz

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>(snip) it has been speculated that Crane adapted Rife's early RF

>r Kilohertz readings to the Hertz audio square wave readings

>many have been using.(1-10000Hz)

>

> Crane wrote to Rick Sheppard in 1988 concerning some of the

>statements in Rife's original lab notes: " The frequencies given in

>Hertz apply to the square wave generator and also the Rife Ray Tube

>Machine. ...

, it appears you are stating that the Crane audio frequencies

were, in fact, derived directly from Rife's MOR's. AFAIK there is no

evidence of this. Quite the contrary, there is plenty to believe not.

If it were to be the case, can you please tell us how it was done and

provide a few specific examples? It seems remote that Rife would have

been able to " hide " his true frequencies from the likes of Hoyland.

BTW I don't hear anyone saying that audio frequencies are

ineffective. Only that they probably do not operate as per Rife's

coordinative resonance. As an equipment seller, perhaps you would be

so kind as to share your insights on how audio frequencies do indeed

work, with reference to specific conditions.

Nielsen

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We have published much of our blood work / Cat Scan / MRI results here on this

forum along with the specific sets and command lines that were used to deliver

our frequency sets. A review of the history of our post will provide you with

some of this information.

As regards the exact statements published by Crane or Rife, we will not debate

these issues. The bottom line is what works.

When individuals publish views that may encourage others to exclude a range of

research frequencies by arguing they may be invaluable because we do not beleive

based on " our " reading and interpetation that Rife used these, this is

disheartening.

We are dealing with human lives. People are dying. Much of the research we

have gathered that has been validated we will never be able to publish on any

public list or forum. Some of it is incredible. Nor will we publish the names of

the researchers. To do so would put other individuals at risk. I fear we have

possibly said too much here already.

We will say this much. To exclude any frequency ranges rather Audio, Khz or

Mhz based on the interpetation of previous documents from the past as opposed to

current research based on definitive medical test will cost someone their life

based on our findings.

With the current climate in the U.S. as regards Non FDA approved devices we

would hesitate to publish any further research to any public forum or list at

this time. Sometimes we feel we are in chains with what we know and cannot speak

or write about in a public forum.

Wish so much we could say more.

There are eyes reading all of our post that are not here in public places with

the same intent as most of us. Call me paranoid or call me Mike.

www.truerife.com

Nielsen wrote:

>(snip) it has been speculated that Crane adapted Rife's early RF

>r Kilohertz readings to the Hertz audio square wave readings

>many have been using.(1-10000Hz)

>

> Crane wrote to Rick Sheppard in 1988 concerning some of the

>statements in Rife's original lab notes: " The frequencies given in

>Hertz apply to the square wave generator and also the Rife Ray Tube

>Machine. ...

, it appears you are stating that the Crane audio frequencies

were, in fact, derived directly from Rife's MOR's. AFAIK there is no

evidence of this. Quite the contrary, there is plenty to believe not.

If it were to be the case, can you please tell us how it was done and

provide a few specific examples? It seems remote that Rife would have

been able to " hide " his true frequencies from the likes of Hoyland.

BTW I don't hear anyone saying that audio frequencies are

ineffective. Only that they probably do not operate as per Rife's

coordinative resonance. As an equipment seller, perhaps you would be

so kind as to share your insights on how audio frequencies do indeed

work, with reference to specific conditions.

Nielsen

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Nielsen wrote:

>(snip) As an equipment seller, perhaps you would be

so kind as to share your insights on how audio frequencies do indeed

work, with reference to specific conditions.

Nielsen

This is the best I can provide at this time beyond the previous response to your

post: http://truerife.com/research.html However this information would apply

to not just audio but higher range frequencies as well. We use both.

Mike

Mike

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Tigchelaar wrote:

Nielsen wrote:

>(snip) As an equipment seller, perhaps you would be

so kind as to share your insights on how audio frequencies do indeed

work, with reference to specific conditions.

Nielsen

This is the best I can provide at this time beyond the previous response to your

post: http://truerife.com/research.html However this information would apply to

not just audio but higher range frequencies as well. We use both.

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Hi Mike,

The many different frequencies work because there are many parts to a

pathogen, just as there are to our bodies. Each cell is a miniature human

body in that it feeds and secretes waste, has respiration, has many proteins

produced by its DNA and RNA messengers, and so forth. There are probably

hundreds of MOR's for a single pathogen, as many MOR's as it has parts,

there can't be just one MOR and in thinking so is erroneous, look what

happen when Rife's equipment malfunctioned and all the harmonics killed

everything, this can happen today with your equipment and the EMEM's and the

B/R, there has to be many, and hence we experience good results these days

with our modern technology and many frequencies, most probably hitting the

pathogen on many different levels. This is why reports come in stating so

many different types of frequencies helped with a single pathogen invader.

Take for Example Cher's work, she is just targeting pathogen DNA, other MORS

would be it structure, and any one of the numerous structures inside its

cell. Some may resonate to audio frequencies (many hundreds, if not

thousands of people are alive today to testify to this) as other components

of a pathogen will resonate to higher MHz frequencies.

This is why I can run several different herpes frequencies and have multiple

hits with different frequencies, these are not related by harmonics, but

effect the herpes virus different parts. That's why it is so good and this

is why it works.

Jim Bare said Rife was great at getting the ball kick started, but we have

probably moved well beyond this today.

Regards,

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au

Crane Mor Vs Rife Mor / Hz vs Mhz

Hz vs Mhz

Much speculation and controversy over the years has been created due to

the fact that the Rife MOR's (frequencies or Mortal Oscillatory Rate) from

his lab notes were in the kHz or Mhz as opposed to the audio range (Hz)

frequencies employed by most using Rife Technology today. This controversy

will continue but may overshadow the facts of what is working Vs what is

not.

In the late 1980's and early '90's, Crane was still selling both Ray

Tube and Electrode Pad " Rife " devices, and before his death in 1995, he

released the frequencies his devices used. These have become known as the

" Crane " frequencies. Many have had a live or die attitude towards Rife's

original lab notes, assuming everything he wrote down was absolute truth,

and somehow Crane's frequencies have little relationship to Rife's original

MOR's and therefore may be ineffective. With the discovery of Rife's 1932

lab notes, and the reconstruction and back-engineering of Rife and Crane

Frequency Instruments by researchers, it has been speculated that Crane

adapted Rife's early RF r Kilohertz readings to the Hertz audio square

wave readings many have been using.(1-10000Hz)

Crane wrote to Rick Sheppard in 1988 concerning some of the statements

in Rife's original lab notes: " The frequencies given in Hertz apply to the

square wave generator and also the Rife Ray Tube Machine. ...

The wording given for the frequencies at page 43 is in error and part of

Rife's thinking was to " cover up " the facts. " Crane was saying in essence

that Rife in the early years deliberately hid the true MOR's which he had

discovered in order to protect his early research.

In the Mexican deposition taken from Rife, which was intended to be used for

Crane's legal defense, Rife states that his microbe killing frequencies were

given to Crane in 1950. Although it may be argued that Crane " lowered "

Rife's original frequencies, Crane achieved results using both ray tubes and

function generators with electrode pads. And for nearly 60 years now, the

people who have been using these frequencies, with ray tubes, with pad

units, with or without an RF carrier wave, have had good results.

Although the controversy may continue concerning Crane MOR Vs Rife MOR, or

HZ Vs MHz, the simple truth is, they work. We have experienced success with

both.

Mike www.truerife.com

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> This is the best I can provide at this time beyond the previous response

> to your post: http://truerife.com/research.html However this information

> would apply to not just audio but higher range frequencies as well. We

> use both.

> Mike

Hi Mike,

Any you do this very well.

Furthering on from my previous message, now that it is clear that pathogen

can have many MOR's - the answers we should be perusing, is what are the

" best " MOR's to use to destroy a pathogen invader while avoiding toxic load

" herx's " to the human body. If we target the pathogens outer cell structure

as Rife was doing, causing it to go kaboom, (look spectacular through a

microscope) then we release its guts into the body and blood stream, and

people can have terrible herx's, not to mention releasing other harmful

pathogen into the body that may live inside the target pathogen. Again, the

usefulness of the CAFL (I salute McInturf for the CAFL) and your

ongoing research and contributions for new frequencies for humanity to use.

But where are we going? It's time to get smart about our bug killing. Here I

take my hat off to Cher, she is brilliant and a

genious, for she is targeting the pathogens DNA - what a great MOR, thus

killing the pathogen and preserving its outer structure, thus avoiding the

kaboom factor which will minimise the Herx severity for people.

I don't know if pathogen DNA is similar to our own, but Dr Bruce Lipton

Ph.D., cellular biologist, researched removing the nucleus from human cells,

and the cells would still go on living for upto 30 days before their

proteins died, and then the cell died. A slower way to kill cells, but at

the end of the day, very deadly with minimum collateral damage to us humans

with regard to herx's. May be pathogens DNA and proteins interact quicker

than human cells, thus using the pathogens DNA effects quicker death than a

human cell? A brilliant MOR for Cher to use.

Other effective ways to destroy a pathogen using resonance MOR's is to

disrupt it's proteins, this will really slow it down, but it's DNA would

produce more proteins, but in have ongoing sessions over a few days would

cause the destruction of the pathogen while keeping its cell wall structure

intact as it could not keep up replacing the frequency damaged proteins.

Other MOR's would be to interrupt its breeding cycles, or damage the

receptors and effectors on its cell wall. These are tiny protein antenna and

would be very susceptible to our frequencies, and thus destroy the pathogens

ability to live without destroying its cell wall.

From results people are experiencing, it is quite clear we are working at

many levels of pathogen destruction with many different MOR's for the

various components that make up the pathogen cell.

Regards

Ken Uzzell

http://heal-me.com.au