Guest guest Posted August 12, 2007 Report Share Posted August 12, 2007 I have the F165 and use it to control my EMEM Plasma device. I also use it as a pad device. Seems to work very well. I was just curious about the GB4000. It has a 10 watt amp so I thought it may have more power than the what I have been getting out of my 13 volt F165. Thanks for the input. I wonder if we can really compare the power in the carrier waves, as you can't feel the high frequencies? > > > > How do they compare as pad devices? Will the upper f100's like the > > F165 work as effectively, or is it apples and oranges? > > > > > I have both the Atelier Robin F165 & also a GB4000/amp - Both are > highly effective - The F165 has considerably more power - The GB4000 > can run 6 channels at once so their preprogramming is very useful > although plenty of good F165 software is downloadable from Dr Loyd's > site. > > Overall, I prefer the F165 - $800 compared to $2200 - Very compact & > good while travelling plus the F15 drives plasma devices without > modification - Both units are recommendable - Probably the best two > contact pad devices on the market. > > /New Castle, PA > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 http://www.atelierrobin.net/p7.htm I would say they both have advantages. The pad devices have much more frequency range. The plasma devices penetrate through all tissues better, but the pad devices may also penetrate better when used with a carrier wave. Plasma devices may penetrate better when a spark plug gap or arcing type tube is used (more noise and carrier waves)So it isn't totally clear with many variables. I say, the ONLY way is to get both. Then use the pad device to control the plasma. > > > > > > How do they compare as pad devices? Will the upper f100's like the > > > F165 work as effectively, or is it apples and oranges? > > > > > > > > > I have both the Atelier Robin F165 & also a GB4000/amp - Both are > > highly effective - The F165 has considerably more power - The GB4000 > > can run 6 channels at once so their preprogramming is very useful > > although plenty of good F165 software is downloadable from Dr Loyd's > > site. > > > > Overall, I prefer the F165 - $800 compared to $2200 - Very compact & > > good while travelling plus the F15 drives plasma devices without > > modification - Both units are recommendable - Probably the best two > > contact pad devices on the market. > > > > /New Castle, PA > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted August 13, 2007 Report Share Posted August 13, 2007 Hi Bil We might be going it alone and I agree it would be beneficial if more would share their results but I believe the small band of dedicated researchers are getting closer all the time to achieving worthwhile results. Whilst the number of variables seem to increase exponentially we do have Rife's and Hoylands frequencies as a basis and we must not lose sight of these. Jim s recognition of the equipment in Rife's Lab and Jeff Garff's subsequent paper give us more information to work with. These are exciting times.We must also recognize, as has been said many times, in vitro, in viva and physiology effects of frequency treatment as well the difference in make up of individual people plus the mutation of bacteria and viruses, present different forms of diseases than in Rife's day which make our task more difficult. It is sad that even when the medical system fails people will still not turn to alternative sources. We have sufficient anecdotal evidence that bioelectrical/frequency treatment works on may illnesses and Ken's recent examples are indication of this. The flu currently affecting Australia is a particularly bad strain that is suspected in the deaths of 3 infants in our western state. While the AMA and the drug manufacturer's are speaking up the success of the current flu vaccine as Ken points out it is not working in many cases. Be warned US this could be visiting you this coming winter!! Regards to all Mike Fellows > >> How much is an f165? and what is better, a plasma thingy or one of the pad > >> thingys? > >> > >> Josh > >> > >> Most of the reason I don't like spam is because a lot of it is true. > >> email: jkenn337@... > >> msn: kenn6498ku@... > >> AOL: kutztownstudent > >> skype: jkenn337 > >> > >> Re: F100's and Gb4000 > >> > >> > >> I have the F165 and use it to control my EMEM Plasma device. I also > >> use it as a pad device. Seems to work very well. > >> > >> I was just curious about the GB4000. It has a 10 watt amp so I thought > >> it may have more power than the what I have been getting out of my 13 > >> volt F165. Thanks for the input. > >> > >> I wonder if we can really compare the power in the carrier waves, as > >> you can't feel the high frequencies? > >> > >> > >> > >> > > > > DF> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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