Guest guest Posted September 29, 2006 Report Share Posted September 29, 2006 In a message dated 9/29/2006 8:03:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, samrocci@... writes: So, first I do not think that treatment should ever become " routine " . The fact that I am sitting in a cancer center with a port in my chest connected to a tube that runs directly into a major vein getting a drug over three hour period is NOT like taking an aspirin for a headache. It's a big deal and I need to recognize that. Second, thank you to all of you who gave me the words to share with this woman today. I could not do this without you guys. Dear Sam, Thank you so much for what you wrote. It felt like my brain just collided into a wall. Like, trying to convince myself that I'm not really that sick (for the past 8 years) and that its all in my head has been the route my brain has taken and then ----BAM. You hit me with your share. It's odd, sometimes when others tell me I " should " be able to do this or that, I can actually defend myself by saying all the stuff about Stills and being chronic and on and on. But I know that a part of me still just doesn't believe that. A part of me believes that it is all in my head. After years of believing authors Louise (she's into positive affirmations and how we bring on our illnesses) and M. Peck ( who I met several times before his death who agreed that all diseases were psychosomatic and that we were to merely choose which one we would die from) I believe(d) that it is my brain and thought patterns that cause me to have stills. That if I were mentally stronger, more disciplined in my thoughts and actions, and more spiritual - I would be healthy again. As I write this I see how stupid it sounds, but those are the thoughts in my brain. But - I take thousands of dollars worth of meds monthly including daily Kineret shots, I no longer can work the way I want or as efficiently as I'd like, my life centers around working, making money to pay my medical bills, taking Stills treatments, and working to pay for them. A social life has pretty much disappeared and for this old disco queen, I would have never believed that would have ever happened. And yet, so many others have it much worse than I do. After all, I have a wonderful husband who loves me unconditionally, I do have a means to pay bills (thank goodness), I have the Stills Loop so I never need feel alone. So, why do I think I'm not really that sick? feel good everyone - Carole in Hollywood FL Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Sam, I am so glad to hear you had a good time at the conference. I hope that you will get stronger and stronger everyday. I am so happy you were having your infusion when the woman had that awful reaction. I know what that woman went trough. I had an allergic reation and mycoplasma from remicade. It is nerve racking when you have an allergic reation and it helps to have caring people around. I am sure that woman felt better with you there. Thank you for being an angel to that woman. Keep your chin up... If there is anything I can do to help just ask. Danni ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 I am somewhat new here and read more than I write, but all I can say to this is " Wow " . You took the very words from my mouth and spoke them as if they are from my own brain and heart. I have tears in my eyes from the recognition. Thank you. I hope for you that knowing one person feels like they truly understand your thoughts and feelings makes your day a bit lighter. Cammie >From: worcspubl@... >Reply-To: Stillsdisease >To: Stillsdisease >Subject: Re: Home again (very long)... >Date: Sat, 30 Sep 2006 01:26:51 EDT > > >In a message dated 9/29/2006 8:03:48 PM Eastern Daylight Time, >samrocci@... writes: > >So, first I do not think that treatment should ever become " routine " . >The fact that I am sitting in a cancer center with a port in my chest >connected to a tube that runs directly into a major vein getting a >drug over three hour period is NOT like taking an aspirin for a >headache. It's a big deal and I need to recognize that. Second, thank >you to all of you who gave me the words to share with this woman >today. I could not do this without you guys. > > > > > >Dear Sam, > >Thank you so much for what you wrote. It felt like my brain just collided >into a wall. Like, trying to convince myself that I'm not really that >sick >(for the past 8 years) and that its all in my head has been the route my >brain >has taken and then ----BAM. You hit me with your share. > >It's odd, sometimes when others tell me I " should " be able to do this or >that, I can actually defend myself by saying all the stuff about Stills >and >being chronic and on and on. But I know that a part of me still just >doesn't >believe that. A part of me believes that it is all in my head. After years >of >believing authors Louise (she's into positive affirmations and how >we >bring on our illnesses) and M. Peck ( who I met several times before >his >death who agreed that all diseases were psychosomatic and that we were to >merely choose which one we would die from) I believe(d) that it is my >brain and >thought patterns that cause me to have stills. That if I were mentally >stronger, more disciplined in my thoughts and actions, and more spiritual - >I would >be healthy again. As I write this I see how stupid it sounds, but those >are >the thoughts in my brain. > >But - I take thousands of dollars worth of meds monthly including daily >Kineret shots, I no longer can work the way I want or as efficiently as >I'd like, > my life centers around working, making money to pay my medical bills, >taking Stills treatments, and working to pay for them. A social life has >pretty >much disappeared and for this old disco queen, I would have never believed >that >would have ever happened. > >And yet, so many others have it much worse than I do. After all, I have a >wonderful husband who loves me unconditionally, I do have a means to pay >bills >(thank goodness), I have the Stills Loop so I never need feel alone. > >So, why do I think I'm not really that sick? > >feel good everyone - Carole in Hollywood FL > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Hey, I saw that you live in Branson. I live very close to Kansas City! Small world. I was just diagnosed with Still's in 2004. I am brand new to the group this month. Great to have a connection in Missouri! Audra --- Palmer wrote: > > Sam, > > Thanks for sharing your " very long " stories. I am > always too sick to go to the conferences in the fall > and it sounds like such a great experience. You > sound like you are coming to terms with Stills very > well. We all have to accept it in our own time and > our own way. I was a hospice social worker before I > got sick some 8 years ago. I spent my days telling > people how to cope with life-ending illness, but I > really had no clue of what it FELT like to be sick > every day. Your story about the Remicade infusion > hit me like a brick. I had nearly the same reaction, > except mine really became a cardiac issue and I was > just a 'heart beat away " from a heart attack. I can > still remember them opening my clenched jaw to put > the nitro pills under my tongue. So scary. In my > situation, though, they cleared the room. Didn't > want others to see this frightening episode. There > wasn't anyone like you there to comfort me. The > nurses and my rheumy (who came running in) did a > great job, > and I believe they saved my life...but I left there > scared to death of what lay ahead. What would I do? > I had failed other BRMs already...what was left? > Well, it turned out that Kineret was left and I > still take it every day. You are right, there is > always another option to try. Anyway, I just wanted > to tell you that I thought you did a great job > comforting the other patient. > > Take care of yourself and get some rest! I can't > imagine a trip to Vegas with Stills. You all are so > strong! Go Dragon Slayers! > > Stay Healthy > > Branson, MO > Sam Rocci wrote: > I just wanted to check in with everyone > and say a quick hello. We got > back early afternoon on Wednesday from the > conference and I jumped > right back into my life :0) My mom lives 4 hours > south of us and I > drove her home half way to save my Dad some time... > a challenge after > 4 days in Las Vegas and a plane trip. The laundry is > piled up, and > it's a little tough to start cooking again after all > of the really > yummy restaurants! > > The conference was wonderful this year. It was > really emotional for > me while the Dr. was talking. He brought up some > concepts that were > very close to my heart and while it was hard to > listen I came away > with a different perspective. I highly recommend > asking for a copy of > the presentation if you missed it. I talked with my > therapist after > coming home about the section where he spoke of > acceptance and anger > etc... I told her I did not know why I have such a > hard time > accepting that I do in fact have this disease, it's > not going away > today. She told me a story of a nurse she once knew > in a psych. ward, > this woman had schizophrenia and had become > homeless, would not take > her meds etc... My therapist, who was in training, > asked her mentor > why this highly educated woman would not accept her > condition and > take her meds to function as part of society. He > told her that by > continuing in a state of denial, she was able to > continue on and if > she fully realized that she had this and would live > with it the rest > of her life she might not be able to go on. While > her condition is > impossible to compare to what I go through, I think > I do hold on to > some denial in order to make it through some days. > Some times the > idea that I will hurt forever is too hard to handle. > I think the > psychological strain of this disease is sometimes > more difficult than > the physical. HOWEVER..... all of you are a fabulous > group of people > and I felt so uplifted to meet so many kind new > friends. Thank you > thank you thank you! > > One more story and then I am off to watch My Little > Pony with my 3 > year old. Today I had Remicade, thank goodness since > I feel pretty > terrible. So I had to see the oncologist first, go > over my labs > etc... (I have my infusions done in a cancer center) > He told me that > my dose is the highest he has ever given (1000 mg's > every 4 weeks)... > yay for me! Then I go into the infusion room and get > hooked up. On > Fridays they do all the Remicade patients since we > take so long to > get the meds. This is becoming a routine for me, no > big deal right? > There was a nice hispanic woman across from me who > had just started > her infusion. We talked a little while the nurses > got my port going. > This was like her 5th time, she gets it every 6 > weeks. All of a > sudden she started to itch... then she turned really > red in the > face... her hands got covered with hives... it was > out of nowhere! > The nurses, who all used to work in the ER were > awesome. They started > pumping benedryl into her port iv, then something > called ativan, then > another benedryl type drug, then finally something > called > epinephrine. Her blood pressure went up really high > and she was > shaking. It was scary for her and for the rest of > us. They kept her > there until everything returned to normal and then > told her she > couldn't have the Remicade today and she needed to > see her rheumy > before resuming treatments. She just fell apart... > the idea that she > couldn't have Remicade anymore was terrifying to > her! Like the rest > of us who are on it, we've blown through Enbrel, and > Humira and she > had tried Kineret too. I found myself trying to > soothe her fears with > some of the same words you guys have used with me... > there's always a > new drug to try, a different combination, new > therapies in clinical > trials, etc... We just spent the entire three hours > talking about how > hard living with a chronic illness can be. I told > her she needed to > start taking care of herself... putting her needs > first sometimes > etc... all of the stuff you guys tell me when I am > down in the dumps. > So, first I do not think that treatment should ever > become " routine " . > The fact that I am sitting in a cancer center with a > port in my chest > connected to a tube that runs directly into a major > vein getting a > drug over three hour period is NOT like taking an > aspirin for a > headache. It's a big deal and I need to recognize > that. Second, thank > you to all of you who gave me the words to share > with this woman > today. I could not do this without you guys. > > Take Care and hugs all around.... > Sam > > > > > > > --------------------------------- > Do you Yahoo!? > Get on board. You're invited to try the new Yahoo! > Mail. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Sam, I can relate to not really accepting this Dragon breathing down my back. I wonder some days how to even begin dealing with this new life I've been given! It certainly doesn't seem fair but then I hear my grandmothers voice saying " Young lady no one ever said this life would be easy nor fair you take the hand your dealt, learn from it & how to live with it " . She passed away before I was diagnosed but I had been sick for a while. She was a strong woman rarely complained even when dying of cancer. She had a breast removed at 81 from recurring breast cancer 2 years later it was in her lungs & terminal. There are so many others worse off than me & I try not to complain but there are days its hard. Maybe a little denial is what does help us get through it all. Good for you helping that lady get through a really hard time. It's so nice to hear when others do things like that. This group has it's share of really wonderful, caring people something that can be rare in this world. Take Care, Chris Sam Rocci wrote: I just wanted to check in with everyone and say a quick hello. We got back early afternoon on Wednesday from the conference and I jumped right back into my life :0) My mom lives 4 hours south of us and I drove her home half way to save my Dad some time... a challenge after 4 days in Las Vegas and a plane trip. The laundry is piled up, and it's a little tough to start cooking again after all of the really yummy restaurants! The conference was wonderful this year. It was really emotional for me while the Dr. was talking. He brought up some concepts that were very close to my heart and while it was hard to listen I came away with a different perspective. I highly recommend asking for a copy of the presentation if you missed it. I talked with my therapist after coming home about the section where he spoke of acceptance and anger etc... I told her I did not know why I have such a hard time accepting that I do in fact have this disease, it's not going away today. She told me a story of a nurse she once knew in a psych. ward, this woman had schizophrenia and had become homeless, would not take her meds etc... My therapist, who was in training, asked her mentor why this highly educated woman would not accept her condition and take her meds to function as part of society. He told her that by continuing in a state of denial, she was able to continue on and if she fully realized that she had this and would live with it the rest of her life she might not be able to go on. While her condition is impossible to compare to what I go through, I think I do hold on to some denial in order to make it through some days. Some times the idea that I will hurt forever is too hard to handle. I think the psychological strain of this disease is sometimes more difficult than the physical. HOWEVER..... all of you are a fabulous group of people and I felt so uplifted to meet so many kind new friends. Thank you thank you thank you! One more story and then I am off to watch My Little Pony with my 3 year old. Today I had Remicade, thank goodness since I feel pretty terrible. So I had to see the oncologist first, go over my labs etc... (I have my infusions done in a cancer center) He told me that my dose is the highest he has ever given (1000 mg's every 4 weeks)... yay for me! Then I go into the infusion room and get hooked up. On Fridays they do all the Remicade patients since we take so long to get the meds. This is becoming a routine for me, no big deal right? There was a nice hispanic woman across from me who had just started her infusion. We talked a little while the nurses got my port going. This was like her 5th time, she gets it every 6 weeks. All of a sudden she started to itch... then she turned really red in the face... her hands got covered with hives... it was out of nowhere! The nurses, who all used to work in the ER were awesome. They started pumping benedryl into her port iv, then something called ativan, then another benedryl type drug, then finally something called epinephrine. Her blood pressure went up really high and she was shaking. It was scary for her and for the rest of us. They kept her there until everything returned to normal and then told her she couldn't have the Remicade today and she needed to see her rheumy before resuming treatments. She just fell apart... the idea that she couldn't have Remicade anymore was terrifying to her! Like the rest of us who are on it, we've blown through Enbrel, and Humira and she had tried Kineret too. I found myself trying to soothe her fears with some of the same words you guys have used with me... there's always a new drug to try, a different combination, new therapies in clinical trials, etc... We just spent the entire three hours talking about how hard living with a chronic illness can be. I told her she needed to start taking care of herself... putting her needs first sometimes etc... all of the stuff you guys tell me when I am down in the dumps. So, first I do not think that treatment should ever become " routine " . The fact that I am sitting in a cancer center with a port in my chest connected to a tube that runs directly into a major vein getting a drug over three hour period is NOT like taking an aspirin for a headache. It's a big deal and I need to recognize that. Second, thank you to all of you who gave me the words to share with this woman today. I could not do this without you guys. Take Care and hugs all around.... Sam --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted September 30, 2006 Report Share Posted September 30, 2006 Sam, I can relate to not really accepting this Dragon breathing down my back. I wonder some days how to even begin dealing with this new life I've been given! It certainly doesn't seem fair but then I hear my grandmothers voice saying " Young lady no one ever said this life would be easy nor fair you take the hand your dealt, learn from it & how to live with it " . She passed away before I was diagnosed but I had been sick for a while. She was a strong woman rarely complained even when dying of cancer. She had a breast removed at 81 from recurring breast cancer 2 years later it was in her lungs & terminal. There are so many others worse off than me & I try not to complain but there are days its hard. Maybe a little denial is what does help us get through it all. Good for you helping that lady get through a really hard time. It's so nice to hear when others do things like that. This group has it's share of really wonderful, caring people something that can be rare in this world. Take Care, Chris Sam Rocci wrote: I just wanted to check in with everyone and say a quick hello. We got back early afternoon on Wednesday from the conference and I jumped right back into my life :0) My mom lives 4 hours south of us and I drove her home half way to save my Dad some time... a challenge after 4 days in Las Vegas and a plane trip. The laundry is piled up, and it's a little tough to start cooking again after all of the really yummy restaurants! The conference was wonderful this year. It was really emotional for me while the Dr. was talking. He brought up some concepts that were very close to my heart and while it was hard to listen I came away with a different perspective. I highly recommend asking for a copy of the presentation if you missed it. I talked with my therapist after coming home about the section where he spoke of acceptance and anger etc... I told her I did not know why I have such a hard time accepting that I do in fact have this disease, it's not going away today. She told me a story of a nurse she once knew in a psych. ward, this woman had schizophrenia and had become homeless, would not take her meds etc... My therapist, who was in training, asked her mentor why this highly educated woman would not accept her condition and take her meds to function as part of society. He told her that by continuing in a state of denial, she was able to continue on and if she fully realized that she had this and would live with it the rest of her life she might not be able to go on. While her condition is impossible to compare to what I go through, I think I do hold on to some denial in order to make it through some days. Some times the idea that I will hurt forever is too hard to handle. I think the psychological strain of this disease is sometimes more difficult than the physical. HOWEVER..... all of you are a fabulous group of people and I felt so uplifted to meet so many kind new friends. Thank you thank you thank you! One more story and then I am off to watch My Little Pony with my 3 year old. Today I had Remicade, thank goodness since I feel pretty terrible. So I had to see the oncologist first, go over my labs etc... (I have my infusions done in a cancer center) He told me that my dose is the highest he has ever given (1000 mg's every 4 weeks)... yay for me! Then I go into the infusion room and get hooked up. On Fridays they do all the Remicade patients since we take so long to get the meds. This is becoming a routine for me, no big deal right? There was a nice hispanic woman across from me who had just started her infusion. We talked a little while the nurses got my port going. This was like her 5th time, she gets it every 6 weeks. All of a sudden she started to itch... then she turned really red in the face... her hands got covered with hives... it was out of nowhere! The nurses, who all used to work in the ER were awesome. They started pumping benedryl into her port iv, then something called ativan, then another benedryl type drug, then finally something called epinephrine. Her blood pressure went up really high and she was shaking. It was scary for her and for the rest of us. They kept her there until everything returned to normal and then told her she couldn't have the Remicade today and she needed to see her rheumy before resuming treatments. She just fell apart... the idea that she couldn't have Remicade anymore was terrifying to her! Like the rest of us who are on it, we've blown through Enbrel, and Humira and she had tried Kineret too. I found myself trying to soothe her fears with some of the same words you guys have used with me... there's always a new drug to try, a different combination, new therapies in clinical trials, etc... We just spent the entire three hours talking about how hard living with a chronic illness can be. I told her she needed to start taking care of herself... putting her needs first sometimes etc... all of the stuff you guys tell me when I am down in the dumps. So, first I do not think that treatment should ever become " routine " . The fact that I am sitting in a cancer center with a port in my chest connected to a tube that runs directly into a major vein getting a drug over three hour period is NOT like taking an aspirin for a headache. It's a big deal and I need to recognize that. Second, thank you to all of you who gave me the words to share with this woman today. I could not do this without you guys. Take Care and hugs all around.... Sam --------------------------------- Stay in the know. Pulse on the new Yahoo.com. Check it out. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 , Audra, Soon like in about two years if we have our way you will not be alone in Missouri as that is were and I plan to move when she is done with school. It will be nice to have an idea were docs are that are good and things like that. We plan to live around the Springfield to Urbana Buffalo area Hugs all Marty the redneck dragon fighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 2, 2006 Report Share Posted October 2, 2006 Marty My rheumy is in springfield and he is pretty well versed in stills. I live about an hour south of there. Buffalo is about an hour north of there. Wow, that will be three of us...it's like a stilligan movement or something! Stay Healthy huntman1958@... wrote: , Audra, Soon like in about two years if we have our way you will not be alone in Missouri as that is were and I plan to move when she is done with school. It will be nice to have an idea were docs are that are good and things like that. We plan to live around the Springfield to Urbana Buffalo area Hugs all Marty the redneck dragon fighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 4, 2006 Report Share Posted October 4, 2006 thank you for the kind words I only use the ex now days to show were I came from and what life has now blessed me with. That in ways includes stills. I now live out of raisin city a small town in the Fresno ca area. But only for as long as needed then off to Missouri to start a great life with . It is nice having a redneck woman standing by your side as it makes life easier then one redneck and one city person LOL Hugs all Marty the redneck dragon fighter Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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