Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 ----Original Message Follows---- From: " thesangreal " <vze3f7wf@...> >I continue to believe that there is an underlying problem that isn't being addressed. My son came back with very high metal levels in hair although he didn't qualify for >high mercury counts according to " Andy's counting rules " Don't know if this is familiar to you. Anyway, may I ask how long you did it >for and how many times? We just ran a fecal metals test on my son and are waiting for results. Doctor wants us to try something less >aggressive than DMSA first but I am not sure if it will work. >Kim in MD Kim, The whole mercury thing has changed. Before they used to say they had elevated levels that proved mercury poisoning. Since that really wasn't the case......the new thing is that they have very low levels because they're not excreting metals. Considering the results from chelating kids with " verified " lead poisoning, it's probably much safer to settle down the immune system, which improves metabolism...... so the body can excrete things naturally. Also I'd highly advise not doing any treatment unless under the care of someone with formal medical training. Cheryl Note that Haley (who everyone is quoting lately) is one of the authors. My son had numerous elevated levels that the results said combined were bad. Mercury was low. My son has gotten better with treatment for and without chelation or potentially dangerous megadosing of supplements. Int J Toxicol. 2003 Jul-Aug;22(4):277-85. Reduced levels of mercury in first baby haircuts of autistic children. Holmes AS, Blaxill MF, Haley BE. SafeMinds, Cambridge, Massachusetts, USA. Reported rates of autism have increased sharply in the United States and the United Kingdom. One possible factor underlying these increases is increased exposure to mercury through thimerosal-containing vaccines, but vaccine exposures need to be evaluated in the context of cumulative exposures during gestation and early infancy. Differential rates of postnatal mercury elimination may explain why similar gestational and infant exposures produce variable neurological effects. First baby haircut samples were obtained from 94 children diagnosed with autism using Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders, 4th edition (DSM IV) criteria and 45 age- and gender-matched controls. Information on diet, dental amalgam fillings, vaccine history, Rho D immunoglobulin administration, and autism symptom severity was collected through a maternal survey questionnaire and clinical observation. Hair mercury levels in the autistic group were 0.47 ppm versus 3.63 ppm in controls, a significant difference. The mothers in the autistic group had significantly higher levels of mercury exposure through Rho D immunoglobulin injections and amalgam fillings than control mothers. Within the autistic group, hair mercury levels varied significantly across mildly, moderately, and severely autistic children, with mean group levels of 0.79, 0.46, and 0.21 ppm, respectively. Hair mercury levels among controls were significantly correlated with the number of the mothers' amalgam fillings and their fish consumption as well as exposure to mercury through childhood vaccines, correlations that were absent in the autistic group. Hair excretion patterns among autistic infants were significantly reduced relative to control. These data cast doubt on the efficacy of traditional hair analysis as a measure of total mercury exposure in a subset of the population. In light of the biological plausibility of mercury's role in neurodevelopmental disorders, the present study provides further insight into one possible mechanism by which early mercury exposures could increase the risk of autism. PMID: 12933322 [PubMed - in process] _________________________________________________________________ Click, drag and drop. My MSN is the simple way to design your homepage. http://click.atdmt.com/AVE/go/onm00200364ave/direct/01/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Augmentin is a broad spectrum antibiotic that will treat many if not most upper respiratory bacterial infections but it is not effective against Mycoplasma Pneumonia. HTH Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 18, 2004 Report Share Posted February 18, 2004 Hi, all Every fully vaccinated child has had 237 micrograms of mercury by 18 months. You can't inject that much mercury in a child and expect it not to have any negative effect on them. According to CDC, in order for that amount to be a safe consumption for you child, your child would have to way over 400 pounds. If your child is suffering neurological damage, chelating is certainly necessary. DON'T WAIT. If your child is not suffering any consequences due to mercury poisoning (some kids don't pay consequences until much later in life), then you should leave them alone. Otherwise, you do take the risk of that mercury getting moved around to other parts of the body...and that can be dangerous. An autistic child should most certainly get all the mercury AND ALUMINUM taken out. According to CDC, a child should only have .85 ml of aluminum. In one visit with all recommended vaccines a child gets 1.13ml It only takes 35 mcg of mercury to kill a rabbit...the little bit in your thermometer is enough to pollute a 20 acre lake. Autism has taken an over 500% increase in the past ten years. California used to be 1 in 10,000. Now it's 1 in 150 children. Autism is diagnosed to 9 children a day seven days a week nationwide. According to CDC all the mercury has been taken out....according to many scientist (pro vaccine...but for safe vaccines), know otherwise. All you have to do is read the package inserts. www.vaccinesafety.edu has a thimerosal table that lists the amount of mercury in each vaccine. My son is constantly complaining of chest pains. I know it's mercury poisoning because, for whatever reason, that's where the mercury likes to go. Many cardiac diseases are due to mercury poisoning. A friend was recently diagnosed with mercury poisoning of her heart. This explains why more children are having heart attacks. Not because of bad diet as much as it is mercury poisoning. My son had 237 mcg of mercury. Mercury does not like leaving the body which is why it won't be found to be high in the fecal metals count. Hair analysis is one of the best tests. If your son is having problems due to mercury....I encourage you find someone willing to help you get that mercury out ASAP before his problems progress. Sincerely, Kimberley ChristianityandVaccinations_AZvac-lib/ DiseasesandVaccinationsDatabase/ RE: Re: new here-- stevens johnson/mycoplasma/pneumonia Kim, The whole mercury thing has changed. Before they used to say they had elevated levels that proved mercury poisoning. Since that really wasn't the case......the new thing is that they have very low levels because they're not excreting metals. Considering the results from chelating kids with " verified " lead poisoning, it's probably much safer to settle down the immune system, which improves metabolism...... so the body can excrete things naturally. Also I'd highly advise not doing any treatment unless under the care of someone with formal medical training. Cheryl Note that Haley (who everyone is quoting lately) is one of the authors. My son had numerous elevated levels that the results said combined were bad. Mercury was low. My son has gotten better with treatment for and without chelation or potentially dangerous megadosing of supplements. ----Original Message Follows---- From: " thesangreal " <vze3f7wf@...> >I continue to believe that there is an underlying problem that isn't being addressed. My son came back with very high metal levels in hair although he didn't qualify for >high mercury counts according to " Andy's counting rules " Don't know if this is familiar to you. Anyway, may I ask how long you did it >for and how many times? We just ran a fecal metals test on my son and are waiting for results. Doctor wants us to try something less >aggressive than DMSA first but I am not sure if it will work. >Kim in MD _________________________________________________________________ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To visit your group on the web, go to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 , Certainly, if your son has mercury in his chest cavity causing chest pain an x-ray would be warrented to confirm this. What does you Dr. think of this? I recently read an article in a medical journal about a man who attempted suicide with mercury. This mans x-rays (which were published) showed the mercury all over his chest and lungs. ===thread truncated=== Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ To visit your group on the web, go to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2004 Report Share Posted February 19, 2004 Moving a heavy metal from the dormant state the body puts it in to an active state is not a step one takes lightly. Kathy -NNY Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 I'm a radiology tech and I can say I've never heard of or seen what was interpreted as mercury in the lungs or heart....seen absestos, knives, bullets, and all kinds of other wierd stuff in the chest cavity, but never mercury. It would take a whole lot of it to show up, I'd imagine. Becky Re: Re: new here-- stevens johnson/mycoplasma/pneumonia > , > Certainly, if your son has mercury in his chest cavity causing chest pain an x-ray would be warrented to confirm this. What does you Dr. think of this? I recently read an article in a medical journal about a man who attempted suicide with mercury. This mans x-rays (which were published) showed the mercury all over his chest and lungs. > > > ===thread truncated=== > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- > To visit your group on the web, go to: / > > > > > Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with > the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the > opinion of the Research Institute. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 20, 2004 Report Share Posted February 20, 2004 Elemental mercury would certainly show up, like most other metals. This would be large amounts, as you point out, compared to the very small amounts of other forms that may be toxic (methylmercury, etc) and not visible on an X-ray, I believe the case being discussed is in Int Arch Occup Environ Health. 2002 Oct;75(8):581-6. Epub 2002 Jul 06. This case involves the intravenous injection of 8 g elemental mercury. S. G. Kahler >>> beckeric@... 02/20/04 12:05PM >>> I'm a radiology tech and I can say I've never heard of or seen what was interpreted as mercury in the lungs or heart....seen absestos, knives, bullets, and all kinds of other wierd stuff in the chest cavity, but never mercury. It would take a whole lot of it to show up, I'd imagine. Becky Re: Re: new here-- stevens johnson/mycoplasma/pneumonia > , > Certainly, if your son has mercury in his chest cavity causing chest pain an x-ray would be warrented to confirm this. What does you Dr. think of this? I recently read an article in a medical journal about a man who attempted suicide with mercury. This mans x-rays (which were published) showed the mercury all over his chest and lungs. ===thread truncated=== ___________________________________________________ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ---------------------------------------------------- To visit your group on the web, go to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 21, 2004 Report Share Posted February 21, 2004 Actually, if I remember correctly the article was published in the journal- Courtland Forum either Jan. or Feb 2004 issue. Re: Re: new here-- stevens johnson/mycoplasma/pneumonia Elemental mercury would certainly show up, like most other metals. This would be large amounts, as you point out, compared to the very small amounts of other forms that may be toxic (methylmercury, etc) and not visible on an X-ray, I believe the case being discussed is in Int Arch Occup Environ Health. 2002 Oct;75(8):581-6. Epub 2002 Jul 06. This case involves the intravenous injection of 8 g elemental mercury. S. G. Kahler ===thread truncated=== __________________________________________________ Responsibility for the content of this message lies strictly with the original author(s), and is not necessarily endorsed by or the opinion of the Research Institute. ---------------------------------------------------- To visit your group on the web, go to: / Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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