Re: Article on Introverts

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" It is like the extroverts and type A's have taken over for a long time and are

ramming their way down the nation's throat. By that I mean everything has to be

faster, harder, LOUDER, more in your face, aggressive, competitive, and if you

can't hack it, you're out buddy. The article also states how introverts actually

score lower on cognitive tests in noisy environments or after being forced into

large social situations. "

It certainly explains why extroverts go to pieces following some disaster. The

silence makes it hard for them to think. Unless there is bad weather going on,

and earthquake, or a volcano eruption, nature is silent, except for waterfalls,

and silence is what you get after a bad storm or natural disaster. You also get

a bird chirping after a while, and the animals will get up and go about their

business...and the people cry and wail, and wander around aimlessly, looking

like mindless idiots...except for the introverts, who know precisely what to do.

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You might be on to something. One thing I like about my place in Alabama is that there really isn't anyone else around, even if it is on a county road. You can sit out there with very little human noise, aside from the occasional car or logging truck, though much fewer of the latter these days. It is very quiet and still. I would like to get more birds and things coming around, but since I'm not there full time, it wouldn't make much sense to put out feeders. The silence doesn't bother me nearly so much as thinking about people of bad intention showing up. Even the bears and things I've seen down there bother me less than that.

In a message dated 11/9/2010 10:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

It certainly explains why extroverts go to pieces following some disaster. The silence makes it hard for them to think. Unless there is bad weather going on, and earthquake, or a volcano eruption, nature is silent, except for waterfalls, and silence is what you get after a bad storm or natural disaster. You also get a bird chirping after a while, and the animals will get up and go about their business...and the people cry and wail, and wander around aimlessly, looking like mindless idiots...except for the introverts, who know precisely what to do.Administrator

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You might be on to something. One thing I like about my place in Alabama is that there really isn't anyone else around, even if it is on a county road. You can sit out there with very little human noise, aside from the occasional car or logging truck, though much fewer of the latter these days. It is very quiet and still. I would like to get more birds and things coming around, but since I'm not there full time, it wouldn't make much sense to put out feeders. The silence doesn't bother me nearly so much as thinking about people of bad intention showing up. Even the bears and things I've seen down there bother me less than that.

In a message dated 11/9/2010 10:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

It certainly explains why extroverts go to pieces following some disaster. The silence makes it hard for them to think. Unless there is bad weather going on, and earthquake, or a volcano eruption, nature is silent, except for waterfalls, and silence is what you get after a bad storm or natural disaster. You also get a bird chirping after a while, and the animals will get up and go about their business...and the people cry and wail, and wander around aimlessly, looking like mindless idiots...except for the introverts, who know precisely what to do.Administrator

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wrote;

The silence doesn't bother me nearly so much as thinking about people of bad intention showing up.

My comment;

a sad but wise comment on 'devolution' of 'civilization'

rl

'My cat Rusty is a servant of the Living God....'

adapted from a poem by Smart

To: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 10:01:53 AMSubject: Re: Re: Article on Introverts

You might be on to something. One thing I like about my place in Alabama is that there really isn't anyone else around, even if it is on a county road. You can sit out there with very little human noise, aside from the occasional car or logging truck, though much fewer of the latter these days. It is very quiet and still. I would like to get more birds and things coming around, but since I'm not there full time, it wouldn't make much sense to put out feeders. The silence doesn't bother me nearly so much as thinking about people of bad intention showing up. Even the bears and things I've seen down there bother me less than that.

In a message dated 11/9/2010 10:57:57 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, no_reply writes:

It certainly explains why extroverts go to pieces following some disaster. The silence makes it hard for them to think. Unless there is bad weather going on, and earthquake, or a volcano eruption, nature is silent, except for waterfalls, and silence is what you get after a bad storm or natural disaster. You also get a bird chirping after a while, and the animals will get up and go about their business...and the people cry and wail, and wander around aimlessly, looking like mindless idiots...except for the introverts, who know precisely what to do.Administrator

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Really thought provoking ideas!

The 'squeeky wheel gets the grease' (the loud pushy extrover gets the attention; like the misbehaving child in school; maybe thats how some extroverts are 'trained' to grow up as pushy loud adults)

The 'pursuit opf happiness' pervades our culture;

As some one who tends to melancholy and has to make an effort to achieve balance, I sometimes do doubt my inner self and wonder why I find it hard to be 'happy' in the surface way most people seem to be. Personally I try to achieve balance rather than try to pursue happiness.

As an intorovert who is a 'Type A,' I am somewhat of an anomoly;

I WILL speak up, debate, 'put myself out there,' etc when I believe that the purpose is worth the expenditure of my personal inner energy. (and this has sometimes misled others who assume that I am a real friendly people person bcause i will speak up in meetings etc.)

Many intorverts tend not to speak up,

whether publically or maybe even with colleagues etc; so as a 'group' our 'voice' is not heard.

rl

'My cat Rusty is a servant of the Living God....'

adapted from a poem by Smart

To: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Tue, November 9, 2010 6:07:35 AMSubject: Article on Introverts

I read this article in an older hard copy magazine last night. While I don't always agree with the material in Psychology Today, this particular article made lot of sense. It talks about how introverts prefer inward thoughts and looking for meaning than needing external stimulation and being flash like extroverts. Most interestingly it said how the US in particular is an extrovert nation and how that is getting worse. It is like the extroverts and type A's have taken over for a long time and are ramming their way down the nation's throat. By that I mean everything has to be faster, harder, LOUDER, more in your face, aggressive, competitive, and if you can't hack it, you're out buddy. The article also states how introverts actually score lower on cognitive tests in noisy environments or after being forced into large social situations.

The article also says that most introverts prefer a neutral emotional state, perhaps because it allows the clearest thought, and find the extrovert idea that you have to be happy all the time silly and can even be harmful to introverts because it fill them with self doubt and so on as to why they don't feel happy like they are told they should. Then again, the article states that the constant pursuit of happiness isn't good for the majority of people. Which leads to some of the hypocrisy in the magazine because many articles are ABOUT finding happiness and more of it in your life.

Anyway, I found this one to be decent amongst the chaff of the magazine.

http://www.psychologytoday.com/articles/201008/revenge-the-introvert

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Isn't it though? Even when I was a child there was a sign on the way from town to my place, when it was my grandparent's place, that said "End police Jurisdiction." That meant the part-time town police jurisdiction was ended. My place was still a few miles up the road. I'm sure the county mounty would have come had there been need, but they were based 20 miles away. Still, there was no crime out there, not for a very long time. While some things might have happened in some of the smaller settlements of lesser repute, for the most part nothing bad happened elsewhere. My family owned a store there for over a century and family lore has no record of any robberies or theft. The only violent crime was around 1900 when a man was angry at my great grandfather for cutting off his credit due to his debt at the store. That fellow came around one night and tried to kill my relation, only to end up getting shot himself, even though he lived.

What I'm saying is that for a long time there was no real worry about bad people coming around. Now I'm not so sure. A cousin up the road has a more solid house that mine, brick instead of timber (but its also much newer that one being built in the 1960's and mine in 1898). Their also has bars on the windows and the windows are small and high. I would like to build my own house down there but couldn't get a permit to build where I wanted it and these days there isn't really the money for it. It would be rather like my cousin's house save with a low thorny-hedge around the perimeter.

My comment;

a sad but wise comment on 'devolution' of 'civilization'

rl

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I'm an anomaly as well. During my business course we took a personality test at the beginning. Mine came out to show I was a laid back driver type. That meant most of the time I was fairly relaxed and preferred to let things run themselves but when I have to, I can be very type A until a project gets done. I consider it a very Southern way of looking at things, or maybe just agrarian. That is, I like my leisure time and so when I have to work, I'll work hard to get it done as fast as possible and as well as possible to get it out of the way for as long as possible so I can go back to taking it easy again.

In that class I was mostly on the outside of the socializing and all that. Sometimes they relied on me to do certain things, however, because they tried to get me to do some things for the group but I would say no. They typically got very surprised when I refused. Like you say RL, they go the impression that I was a really nice guy because I was quiet and usually went along with group decisions and even went to some meetings the class leaders was supposed to go to but couldn't (and no one else was willing to do it). When I said no and the few times I wouldn't go along with the group really surprised them.

I found this description on a site about trope in media. Very interesting site though it can be addicting. The samples usually include links to related trope and it gives examples from Film, Anime, TV, Literature, etc.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BewareTheNiceOnes

As an intorovert who is a 'Type A,' I am somewhat of an anomoly;

I WILL speak up, debate, 'put myself out there,' etc when I believe that the purpose is worth the expenditure of my personal inner energy. (and this has sometimes misled others who assume that I am a real friendly people person bcause i will speak up in meetings etc.)

Many intorverts tend not to speak up,

whether publically or maybe even with colleagues etc; so as a 'group' our 'voice' is not heard.

[Guest guest]

Interesting sigbt on Tropes, many threads to follow when I haev time.

rl

'My cat Rusty is a servant of the Living God....'

adapted from a poem by Smart

To: FAMSecretSociety Sent: Thu, November 11, 2010 8:32:34 AMSubject: Re: Article on Introverts

I'm an anomaly as well. During my business course we took a personality test at the beginning. Mine came out to show I was a laid back driver type. That meant most of the time I was fairly relaxed and preferred to let things run themselves but when I have to, I can be very type A until a project gets done. I consider it a very Southern way of looking at things, or maybe just agrarian. That is, I like my leisure time and so when I have to work, I'll work hard to get it done as fast as possible and as well as possible to get it out of the way for as long as possible so I can go back to taking it easy again.

In that class I was mostly on the outside of the socializing and all that. Sometimes they relied on me to do certain things, however, because they tried to get me to do some things for the group but I would say no. They typically got very surprised when I refused. Like you say RL, they go the impression that I was a really nice guy because I was quiet and usually went along with group decisions and even went to some meetings the class leaders was supposed to go to but couldn't (and no one else was willing to do it). When I said no and the few times I wouldn't go along with the group really surprised them.

I found this description on a site about trope in media. Very interesting site though it can be addicting. The samples usually include links to related trope and it gives examples from Film, Anime, TV, Literature, etc.

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/BewareTheNiceOnes

As an intorovert who is a 'Type A,' I am somewhat of an anomoly;

I WILL speak up, debate, 'put myself out there,' etc when I believe that the purpose is worth the expenditure of my personal inner energy. (and this has sometimes misled others who assume that I am a real friendly people person bcause i will speak up in meetings etc.)

Many intorverts tend not to speak up,

whether publically or maybe even with colleagues etc; so as a 'group' our 'voice' is not heard.