Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 We are looking for a church that will accept our 4 year old autistic child. We live in Northwest part of town (290 and Hw. 6). Woodlands is too far from us. Also, graceview Baptist church is not too close. Does anyone know about a church around this area that minister to special needs children? Thanks, RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 9, 2007 Report Share Posted June 9, 2007 Our church doesn't have a formal special needs ministry, but they've been very accepting of my autistic child, and quite accomodating to his needs and differences. It is West Houston Church of Christ at West and Queenston; very close to you. I'm away at Disney for the next two Sundays, but if you'd like I'd love to have you visit when we return! e mcpulger wrote: We are looking for a church that will accept our 4 year old autistic child. We live in Northwest part of town (290 and Hw. 6). Woodlands is too far from us. Also, graceview Baptist church is not too close. Does anyone know about a church around this area that minister to special needs children? Thanks, RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Try contacting Cypress UMC church at Huffmeister and Houston North Cypress-their director of christian education/children's ministry attended the special needs ministry training in March at Graceview and she seemed interested in starting something there. Most of the big churches on the west side of town (Memorial Drive UMC; Memorial Drive Presbyterian and Tallowood Baptist) have long standing and excellent special needs ministries. You might also go to the website for the Special Life Network (a group of churches in The Woodlands and Spring) that have special needs ministries that network together to help other churches start special needs ministries www.speciallife.org. Tammy RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 Thank you very much. I will look into. Cypress UMC is pretty close to my house. RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 10, 2007 Report Share Posted June 10, 2007 First United Methodist Church in Denton started their VBS tonight, and had shadows/buddies ready to work, and ended up having a few special needs kids not show! Can you believe that? More helpers than special needs kids... It was the hard work of one of the special needs mom who got the special needs ministry started, who helped find the extra helpers to buddy special needs kids all week. We had a " meet your buddy " dinner last week, where we filled out an info sheet about our kids, and the buddy about themselves, and the parents got to talk about what success looks like for their kid with the shadow. The kid also got to meet their buddy, and we did all of this over a fajita dinner Beth > > We had Vacation Bible School at church this week, and it wasn't a rousing success. Ok, not even close! I dropped my son off an hour late on Monday (he would only be there for two hours.) The children's minister called me that evening to tell me that I needed to stay in the room the rest of the week. I'm a bit down these days just with where we are in our journey, so you can guess how that hit me. If I had been having a better week, I probably would have just sighed, dealt with it, and moved on. I took him back Wednesday and stayed in the room, and I'll take him tomorrow and stay in the room. > > So, here's what I wished had been said, " Zachary didn't have a great day today. Having seen his behavior, and knowing that you homeschool Zachary, we realize that you deal with this every day. He will have to have someone (a shadow) stay in the room with him. To minister to you (since we are your church), we thought we'd see how you feel about having someone else stay with him. " > > Wow - that would have just made my day. This is the church I have gone to for 30 years, so I love this church. It is a " mega-church, " which is obviously not always so great for my PDD-NOS son - a bit overstimulating at times. They do have a special needs room, but my son is not severe enough for that room, and needs to be in a regular room. We used to be at church for everything. It's just become so difficult to deal with our son, that we don't go like we used to, and I miss it. > > So, that long story to say, does anyone go to, or know of, a church that really welcomes our children? I'm not sure I'd really change because I do love the people, and they have been wonderful to us. But it's something to consider. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > Blessings, Gayla > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! > http://mobile.msn.com > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Just now reading my email. Wow - this sounds just like us! Let's really pray about what to do. I'd hate to change churches and it be the same way there. It will probably need to be a smaller church. --- joe whitehead wrote: > Gayla, let me say first, it is not about the warm > fuzzies you get around these people, granted you > went there for 30 yrs. The true test is, are you > and your family being ministered to? Are you being > spiritually fed? If not and you have tried to get > the church to help you... the Bible says to dust off > your feet and move on. Not specifically, but it > does say to try and work with them and if they > choose not to reach out, move on. > You are in a position where you need to be > ministered to as well finding a place to minister to > others as well. Do all you can, even approach the > children's minister and lay out to them where you > are and how you feel. Most ministers are clueless > to where some of the members really are and how they > feel. > We go to church with the " I'm fine " attitude when > asked and that is wrong. If you dont feel good, > share it with someone, pray with someone about it > and work through it. > Sorry, I am preaching and it is not even Sunday. > I do think, however, you need to sit down with that > minister and let them know your feelings, they are > busy and don't catch everything. Give them a chance > to right a wrong. > God Bless > > Gayla Giffen wrote: > > We had Vacation Bible School at church this week, > and it wasn't a rousing success. Ok, not even close! > I dropped my son off an hour late on Monday (he > would only be there for two hours.) The children's > minister called me that evening to tell me that I > needed to stay in the room the rest of the week. I'm > a bit down these days just with where we are in our > journey, so you can guess how that hit me. If I had > been having a better week, I probably would have > just sighed, dealt with it, and moved on. I took him > back Wednesday and stayed in the room, and I'll take > him tomorrow and stay in the room. > > So, here's what I wished had been said, " Zachary > didn't have a great day today. Having seen his > behavior, and knowing that you homeschool Zachary, > we realize that you deal with this every day. He > will have to have someone (a shadow) stay in the > room with him. To minister to you (since we are your > church), we thought we'd see how you feel about > having someone else stay with him. " > > Wow - that would have just made my day. This is the > church I have gone to for 30 years, so I love this > church. It is a " mega-church, " which is obviously > not always so great for my PDD-NOS son - a bit > overstimulating at times. They do have a special > needs room, but my son is not severe enough for that > room, and needs to be in a regular room. We used to > be at church for everything. It's just become so > difficult to deal with our son, that we don't go > like we used to, and I miss it. > > So, that long story to say, does anyone go to, or > know of, a church that really welcomes our children? > I'm not sure I'd really change because I do love the > people, and they have been wonderful to us. But it's > something to consider. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > Blessings, Gayla > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and > much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! > http://mobile.msn.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Joe Whitehead > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 Just now reading my email. Wow - this sounds just like us! Let's really pray about what to do. I'd hate to change churches and it be the same way there. It will probably need to be a smaller church. --- joe whitehead wrote: > Gayla, let me say first, it is not about the warm > fuzzies you get around these people, granted you > went there for 30 yrs. The true test is, are you > and your family being ministered to? Are you being > spiritually fed? If not and you have tried to get > the church to help you... the Bible says to dust off > your feet and move on. Not specifically, but it > does say to try and work with them and if they > choose not to reach out, move on. > You are in a position where you need to be > ministered to as well finding a place to minister to > others as well. Do all you can, even approach the > children's minister and lay out to them where you > are and how you feel. Most ministers are clueless > to where some of the members really are and how they > feel. > We go to church with the " I'm fine " attitude when > asked and that is wrong. If you dont feel good, > share it with someone, pray with someone about it > and work through it. > Sorry, I am preaching and it is not even Sunday. > I do think, however, you need to sit down with that > minister and let them know your feelings, they are > busy and don't catch everything. Give them a chance > to right a wrong. > God Bless > > Gayla Giffen wrote: > > We had Vacation Bible School at church this week, > and it wasn't a rousing success. Ok, not even close! > I dropped my son off an hour late on Monday (he > would only be there for two hours.) The children's > minister called me that evening to tell me that I > needed to stay in the room the rest of the week. I'm > a bit down these days just with where we are in our > journey, so you can guess how that hit me. If I had > been having a better week, I probably would have > just sighed, dealt with it, and moved on. I took him > back Wednesday and stayed in the room, and I'll take > him tomorrow and stay in the room. > > So, here's what I wished had been said, " Zachary > didn't have a great day today. Having seen his > behavior, and knowing that you homeschool Zachary, > we realize that you deal with this every day. He > will have to have someone (a shadow) stay in the > room with him. To minister to you (since we are your > church), we thought we'd see how you feel about > having someone else stay with him. " > > Wow - that would have just made my day. This is the > church I have gone to for 30 years, so I love this > church. It is a " mega-church, " which is obviously > not always so great for my PDD-NOS son - a bit > overstimulating at times. They do have a special > needs room, but my son is not severe enough for that > room, and needs to be in a regular room. We used to > be at church for everything. It's just become so > difficult to deal with our son, that we don't go > like we used to, and I miss it. > > So, that long story to say, does anyone go to, or > know of, a church that really welcomes our children? > I'm not sure I'd really change because I do love the > people, and they have been wonderful to us. But it's > something to consider. > > Thanks for any and all input. > > Blessings, Gayla > __________________________________________________________ > Hotmail to go? Get your Hotmail, news, sports and > much more! Check out the New MSN Mobile! > http://mobile.msn.com > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > > > > > > Joe Whitehead > > --------------------------------- > Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship > answers from someone who knows. > Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. > > [Non-text portions of this message have been > removed] > > ________________________________________________________________________________\ ____ Fussy? Opinionated? Impossible to please? Perfect. Join Yahoo!'s user panel and lay it on us. http://surveylink.yahoo.com/gmrs/yahoo_panel_invite.asp?a=7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 11, 2007 Report Share Posted June 11, 2007 I looked on line today and Metropolitan Baptist Church has on their website that they already have a Special Needs Ministry for Children (Special Needs Kidz). They are located at 13000 Road. Look under Children's Ministries at www.themetonline.org. Tammy RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Thank you very much. We visit the church today. They were great with my son. People were extremely friendly. We really liked it. RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 17, 2007 Report Share Posted June 17, 2007 Thank you very much. We visit the church today. They were great with my son. People were extremely friendly. We really liked it. RE: Church For anyone in the Northwest Houston area check out The Woodlands United Methodist Church www.twumc.org <http://www.twumc.org/> (for those of you not in the area I know they help guide other church's to get programs started.call Debbie Glass) They have a wonderful special needs program that goes all the way up to special needs adults. They are a large church, BUT they have so much going on for Special needs children. Special Blessings (younger ages) and REMIX (older children, teens to adults) To find out more go to the Children's ministries web site www.gracekids.com <http://www.gracekids.com/> Click on the " About us " and find " Special Blessings/Remix " Click on " Special Blessings " or " Remix " to find out more. (my son is the cutie on the Special Blessings page in the blue swing) Be sure to look at the video of one families experience...this is 100% true. **They have shadow volunteers to be placed with each child as they arrive on Sunday's so the child can enjoy themselves as comfortably as possible while you attend church and/or bible study. **For kids that can go to regular Sunday school they are accompanied with a shadow. **They provide a pager when you sign your child in so they can page you if they need you so you can have a piece of mind. **They do music and go over a bible study for the kids. **They have a wonderful learning lab that is open for you to bring your child for private therapy sessions, etc (open from 12-7pm) **They now have 3 rooms available for the special needs children during church services on Sunday mornings. (one of which is closed one hour for a child that is very sensitive) They are very accommodating! **They have Family Service for special needs families every 3 months and a luncheon after a few times a year. **My son is placed with a shadow on " Parent night out " so I can take some time to have a 'date' with my husband or get things done. ($15/hr for 4 hrs of babysitting..awesome!!) **They just started a bible study for the special needs parents not too long ago. **Mom's coffee **Playdates **Special needs Vacation bible school (will also provide a shadow for the child to attend regular vacation bible school) Contact Debbie Glass ( or dglass@...) for more information or if you'd like to check the program out. She had everything set up and ready for us when we arrived our 1st visit over a year ago. Please let me know if anyone has any questions, etc. We absolutely LOVE this church and can't say enough about it!!! Rains -----Original Message----- From: Texas-Autism-Advocacy [mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ] <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44006;_ylc= X3oDMTJxY2M3N2tvBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " and Trina Sherman " <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> csherman7@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/trinamatt2005> trinamatt2005 Fri Jun 8, 2007 4:59 am (PST) Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > Back to top <mailto:csherman7@...?Subject=Re%3A%20church> Reply to sender | <mailto:Texas-Autism-Advocacy ?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> Reply to group | <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/post;_ylc=X3oDMTJxc jlxM3ByBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2MTYEbXNnS WQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3JwbHkEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--?act=reply & me ssageNum=44006> Reply via web post <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/43975;_ylc= X3oDMTM2NjNzbTdkBF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDYEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Z0cGMEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQR0cGNJ ZAM0Mzk3NQ--> Messages in this topic (15) 2b. <http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Texas-Autism-Advocacy/message/44007;_ylc= X3oDMTJxZXRmbXM3BF9TAzk3MzU5NzE1BGdycElkAzI0NTE4MgRncnBzcElkAzE3MDUwNjE2 MTYEbXNnSWQDNDQwMDcEc2VjA2Rtc2cEc2xrA3Ztc2cEc3RpbWUDMTE4MTM1MzUzOQ--> Re: church Posted by: " Amy Jamison " <mailto:neversayuncle@...?Subject=%20Re%3A%20church> neversayuncle@... <http://profiles.yahoo.com/amydeanelle> amydeanelle Fri Jun 8, 2007 5:27 am (PST) Trina, You're so funny. I love it. Maybe we should all start a church together and call poop smearing worship! haha You may really be onto something... haha Your memories gave me a warm fuzzy. Why don't we all do that? So we aren't sad? Let's all post one memory of God, Allah, Spirit, or church, or faith (of any kind...I realize we may have different theologies or backgrounds)... something that we can all think about today if our kids grab food off of someone's plate at Chili's when we are paying out, or when the schools call to say that classroom you spent 5 hours in an IEP planning on won't be ready by August, or when your ex-mother-in-law says you are selfish because you won't institutionalize your child, or when your friends just " don't get it. " etc. Let's have the warm fuzzy memory to overpower the negative stuff.... Mine is sitting around in vacation bible school with Mrs. Brown. She was a very large woman... who smelled like an angel and had long beautiful fingernails. She was reading about Antioch...and I obsessed over the way the word sounded as it rolled off her tongue. That /k/ at the was so beautiful and heavenly...and I kept saying it over and over as we made our little sand jar creations with toothpicks...crackle sliding in the jar. I remember looking up at the pictures of Jesus and all of the disciples on the wall... and I remember feeling like they were looking at me and I thought they looked like my dad & uncles...really sweet and kind. Anyway, that's my memory. Seems a little autistic doesn't it? haha What are yours? Have a great day everyone! Amy and Trina Sherman < <mailto:csherman7%40austin.rr.com> csherman7@...> wrote: Thank you for the bible passage. While I have given up on organized churches when it comes to my son I know somehow I named him for a reason. I don't feel we need church to believe in God and do his work. And I don't have the energy to enlighten and organize a program for my son right now. My priorities always seem so different than everyone else. For instance when we were reading " A purposeful life " as part of our mega church I almost laughed. I know my purpose I didn't pick it but I sure don't need to ponder it. I long for the kind of church I went to when I was a child here in Austin. We met in other churches on off days or in other buildings. The children's ministry didn't require memorization or rote learning. We heard bible stories, talked about them and sang songs with a guitar in a circle on the floor. I loved when we had Wednesday night pot luck at a church and we all played hide and seek in all the nooks and crannies of the building. Often I would sneak in the chapel and talk to God all alone in the dim light. Back then church was less about money and missions and more about knowledge and love. Maybe the hippies had a good idea. That's what I need now, hippie church. Smile and Blessings everyone. Trina > > Hi Gayla - > > I am sorry that happened. You mentioned that it's a " mega-church " . > If that's the case, then I would urge you to discuss your feelings > with a member of the ordained staff. If the children's minister who > called you is ordained, then I would definitely start there. If he > or she is laity, they may not have fully appreciated your situation, > particularly during the chaos of VBS. The folks with the theology > degrees, however, are paid to pastor accordingly. By the end of the > conversation, you'll know if they're prepared to minister to your > unique family. I sincerely hope they can. > > 25:40 and Mark 10:14 are clear on God's love for ALL > children, and His expectations of those who work with them. As a > parent, 9:1-3 had a life-changing impact on me personally. When > explaining why a man was born blind, Jesus told the disciples " this > happened so that the work of God might be displayed in his life. " > ( 9:3b). WOW! To know that my twins' severe disability, > something which makes our days so difficult, could reflect the hand > of God himself seizing the opportunity to reveal himself...it doesn't > get any better than that. > > Take care - Clay > > " Ah, summer, what power you have to make us suffer and like it. " - Baker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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