Guest guest Posted December 28, 2005 Report Share Posted December 28, 2005 Mati, you should know that grassfarming is not the main enterprise of the environmentally exploitative giant agri-businesses. That is why grassfarmers are not the enemy of the environment. Grassfarmers are not the ones investing billions into genetically altering the world's genome. The agri-giants that invest in modifying soy and producing a vast array of dangerious pesticides for growing millions of acres of soy as a mono-crop are investing in every conceivable way to push a nutritionally void product on the masses. Grass and clover are rich in vitamins and minerals and do not require environmentally destructive inputs as does soy to keep corporate investors raking in dividends. Grass farming is best suited to simple environmentally sound practices. Mega-industry is pushing out small grass farmers in undeveloped nations to grow soy. And yes there is a big plan. Planning big is the objective of big business. It is about getting government and laws changed to greedily create dividends for the stockholders, regardless of health and environmental outcomes. The small family farmer IS truly concerned about soil development and sustainability. Big business is concerned about sustaining profits primarily so that environmental concerns are paid lip service. Please, Mati, get it right. www.thecoproration.com If you do not see that animal id is leading to serious decline to our food supply, then just do nothing, and watch. We are about to get more of the same industrialized food, but this time the alternatives will be not only expensive but illegal. How would you like to visit the doctor, and have the drugs he prescribes be mandatory by law for you to take? For vitamins to be illegal? Heard about CODEX? Its in Europe already. Cheers. If you were more aware with the issues you would not compare VIN with animal ID. I'll stick to farming. You can keep your car. www.goatrevolution.com --- Mati Senerchia <senerchia@...> wrote: > Puh-leeze. The little guys are a threat to big > ag. In their dreams. > > Because slaughtering all those NON-infected > cattle, and reimbursing their owners, and having the > foreign market for British beef collapse, was just > so much easier and less costly than creating a fake > infectious disease (that's " fooled " a lot more real > scientists than the pesticide theory) and having the > whole world examine in great detail disgusting > modern livestock feeding and butchering practices, > thereby creating tens of thousands of new > vegetarians? Puh-leeze. Mad Cow could just as > reasonably be a diabolical marketing program cooked > up by grass farmers! Maybe somebody's daddy raises > heirloom grassfed beef and the whole thing was > concocted to line his pockets - really, if we're > dispensing with common sense wholesale... > I mean, it's not as though there's any natural > model for this, like the other well-documented > brain-wasting diseases of livestock and humans, and > an obvious route of infection. And it's not as > though there could be some *interaction* between > prions and organophosphates. Naw. It's just made > up! > > " It will be used to consolidate > the power of food away from the small producer. " > How exactly? The way my car's VIN number prevents > me from driving where I want to or using it in a > demolition derby? Oh yeah. It doesn't. It does > make it harder for me to sell my flood car to an > unsuspecting buyer. Damn those freedom-haters! > " They will then be able to feed us any crap > they please and jack the price up like gasoline any > time they please. " > Heavens! I couldn't imagine paying double or > triple the price for meat! Wait a second... I > already am. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2005 Report Share Posted December 29, 2005 At 10:03 PM +0000 12/28/05, wrote: >Message: 2 > Date: Wed, 28 Dec 2005 11:43:43 -0800 (PST) > From: Mati Senerchia <senerchia@...> >Subject: NASIS > > " It will be used to consolidate >the power of food away from the small producer. " > How exactly? The way my car's VIN number prevents me from driving >where I want to or using it in a demolition derby? Oh yeah. It >doesn't. It does make it harder for me to sell my flood car to an >unsuspecting buyer. Damn those freedom-haters! Bad analogy here. First, I thought that the VIN was privately administered. 2nd, cars don't reproduce themselves; you aren't responsible for assigning VIN numbers. 3rd, while your VIN number doesn't prevent you going where you want, your driver's licence does (as it's perfectly legal to drive without licence on your own land.) My chief problem with NAIS is not just that it's an invasion of privacy and an imposition of bureaucracy, though that would be enough. It's that, as a producer-funded system, it will affect the small producer most. It doesn't require a conspiracy theory to see that the unintended consequences of this will be the destruction of the rural lifestyle. As presently constituted, NAIS requires all animals that leave the farm to be IDed. If your pig goes to a custom butcher, your child rides its horse down the road or shows it at a fair, your goat does stud service...gotta be chipped, AND your site has to be registered. If you're determined to be law-abiding, and this becomes a hassle, you just won't do it. This will make it easier to track grey or black-market animals and animal products (i.e., much of what a WAPF buyer's group sells). " Mr. Byler, it says here that you have dairy cows, but no milk pickup....where's it going? " Further, it's a dry run to get people used to the idea of being chipped themselves. Once we have universal RFID chipping, cash will be superfluous, as trade can be managed through the chip. ( and some others will see where I am going with this...) And if one chooses to be unchipped, one will need to barter for unchipped animals, as selling animals to unchipped people will be a crime. If they're stupid enough to implement this, I see massive noncompliance. If enforced, I see dead ag department workers, which will be a waste of knowledge. If as Bush says, the Constitution is " a goddamned piece of paper " , then so is every other law of the government established by it, and none of them will stop a bullet. By tradition and by natural right, if a predator takes your animals, you shoot it, even if the predator was formerly human. There's a good article on this in the latest Countryside. ly, I am sick over it. Mati, I know you were responding to conspiracy thinking (which isn't necessary to see how bad this is), but you came close to sounding like a shill for NAIS, and I really really hope there's nobody on her in favor of this. > " They will then be able to feed us any crap >they please and jack the price up like gasoline any time they please. " > Heavens! I couldn't imagine paying double or triple the price for >meat! Wait a second... I already am. Out of CHOICE, for a superior product, for which you'll pay 3x what you're paying now, IF you can get it. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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