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Just a note of caution--although I have heard many comments and studies

saying that morning sickness indicates a healthy pregnancy, the lack of

" morning " or anytime sickness does not indicate a failing pregnancy. I was

more sick with my last two pregnancies, and not sick at all for this one.

The lack of being sick made me so paranoid that I was desperate to know that

everything was ok with my baby. He is fine (we just found out that we are

having boy #3!) and growing appropriately. The only thing I did different

with this pregnancy that might explain the lack of morning sickness was that

I had been going to the chiropractor regularly.

I just didn't want anyone who doesn't have morning sickness to be

unnecessarily afraid! :)

M. in Michigan

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, I heard on the paleo list that people on a paleo diet do not

experience morning sickness, yet have very healthy pregnancies, see

www.paleodiet.com, www.neanderthin.com

At 11:46 AM 4/13/01 -0400, Mand@... wrote:

>Just a note of caution--although I have heard many comments and studies

>saying that morning sickness indicates a healthy pregnancy, the lack of

> " morning " or anytime sickness does not indicate a failing pregnancy. I was

>more sick with my last two pregnancies, and not sick at all for this one.

>The lack of being sick made me so paranoid that I was desperate to know that

>everything was ok with my baby. He is fine (we just found out that we are

>having boy #3!) and growing appropriately. The only thing I did different

>with this pregnancy that might explain the lack of morning sickness was that

>I had been going to the chiropractor regularly.

>

>I just didn't want anyone who doesn't have morning sickness to be

>unnecessarily afraid! :)

> M. in Michigan

>

>

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Oh you poor thing...

I know exactly what you mean about all day sickness and the only way

to feel better is with a full tummy. That's how I was with my 3rd

(she's 22 months now) and that's what got me in the place I am

now ;o) I was sick with the boys but not the " have to have something

on my tummy " sick and I shrunk after they were born. But not with

Keely, I've got so much extra weight thanks to her LOL but it is ALL

WORTH IT!!!

(((HUGS)))

Sunshine

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Have you ever tried the Myoplex Carb Sense? They are just as tasty

as the Myoplex Lite, but without the carbs (and 25g protein). That

may help to balance out your diet since you are already getting the

carbs with saltines, etc. Also, maybe you could walk with light

dumbells (3 or 5 pounds) to tone your arms, but not over do it.

> Oh you poor thing...

> I know exactly what you mean about all day sickness and the only

way

> to feel better is with a full tummy. That's how I was with my 3rd

> (she's 22 months now) and that's what got me in the place I am

> now ;o) I was sick with the boys but not the " have to have

something

> on my tummy " sick and I shrunk after they were born. But not with

> Keely, I've got so much extra weight thanks to her LOL but it is

ALL

> WORTH IT!!!

> (((HUGS)))

> Sunshine

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I would not worry about it. You know the proper way to exercise and eat and

can take off the extra weight after you have the baby. I went through that

too. I just could not exercise or dieat with my last baby. I gained 60 lbs.

It's all done now plus an extra 16 pounds. He is almost 2. Amonth after he

was born I started working out again and haven't stopped since. I had a hard

time doing the eating part while I was nursing. I tried but he quit gaining

weight ( I wasn't getting enough fat). I could have just added fat, but I just

was not motivated. It all worked out though. Once I weaned him (christmas

day), I started full force with the eating plan and have been doing it for more

than 10 months. Anyway, my point is that you will get your body back and just

enjoy your pregnancy as best you can.

good luck with your pregnancy!!!

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Thank you all for your responses. I know I just have to ride this

out. I'll check out the Myoplex bars, but a lot of performance type

foods are out of bounds for pregnant and breastfeeding women. Too

many artificial sweeteners and other untested additives.

Oddly enough, yesterday and today I decided I was going to hold my

breath and drink a plain chocolate protein powder shake with flax oil

in it, and surprisingly, I felt better after. So at least at

breakfast time, I can manage that. Ironically, I tend to feel better

in the morning than the afternoon. There's no way I could do that in

the afternoon! lol.

Just out of curiosity, are there as many rules about what you can eat

while pregnant in other parts of the world? Here in New Zealand we're

not allowed cold meats, certain cheeses (like Brie and Camembert),

cold seafood, ANY shellfish, even hot, and no salads with mayonnaise

and no baked foods that have cream in. It's because of a bug called

Listeria, which can breed even in the fridge, unlike Salmonella and

all those others. If you get Listeriosis, it causes miscarriage. :(

It all kinda sucks though, especially the cold meats part. I LIVE on

cold ham and chicken and stuff. They don't make it easy to be

pregnant AND healthy around here. Unless your idea of healthy is to

live on fruit and carbs.

Phoenix

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Phoenix, I have never heard of Listeria- now I'm completely curious

as to why! That certainly adds to the challenge of eating clean.

Glad to hear that the protein shake helped.

Are there any trainers in your area that specialize in pregnant

women? Maybe you could do just a couple of sessions to get some

ideas?

In any case, good for you for making the effort to stay healthy!

Lynda

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I've never had kids so I'm not an expert but I don't think we have

that many rules. Or then again, maybe my friends who were pregnant

just didn't follow them <G>.

Colleen

> > Just out of curiosity, are there as many rules about what you can

eat

> while pregnant in other parts of the world? Here in New Zealand

we're

> not allowed cold meats, certain cheeses (like Brie and Camembert),

> cold seafood, ANY shellfish, even hot, and no salads with

mayonnaise

> and no baked foods that have cream in. It's because of a bug

called

> Listeria, which can breed even in the fridge, unlike Salmonella and

> all those others. If you get Listeriosis, it causes miscarriage. :(

>

> It all kinda sucks though, especially the cold meats part. I LIVE

on

> cold ham and chicken and stuff. They don't make it easy to be

> pregnant AND healthy around here. Unless your idea of healthy is to

> live on fruit and carbs.

>

> Phoenix

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LOL! Move to the US for 9 months. Sounds like a plan. :)

I'd be ok with tuna. Apparently the Listeria bacteria can't survive

the heat involved in the canning process. Not right now though...

fish... ergh, yuck. LOL.

I know lots of women who don't follow all the rules and medical

advice here, but I don't know if I could handle it if I miscarried

and I KNEW that it could have been something I did. So, I guess I'll

be being very careful. Still not doing well on the food front. Salt

and vinegar cravings today (chips... grrrr). Still, I had a large

handful, not a family size bagful, so that's an improvement over last

time! :)

Phoenix

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The first two things you get in this country when you find out you're

pregnant are the number for the midwives collective and the " beware

Listeria " pamphlet. LOL.

Making the effort is about all. I'm trying not to get bummed about my

current level of activity (none) and nutrition (very unbalanced), but

it's quite a bummer to be this affected. Thank you for the

encouragement, I shall eat my toast (wholegrain) and honey and think

of the future when it will be BFL pancakes. Hmmmm... I wonder if I

could manage those?!? *toddles off to the kitchen to find out*

Phoenix

> Phoenix, I have never heard of Listeria- now I'm completely curious

> as to why! That certainly adds to the challenge of eating clean.

> Glad to hear that the protein shake helped.

>

> Are there any trainers in your area that specialize in pregnant

> women? Maybe you could do just a couple of sessions to get some

> ideas?

>

> In any case, good for you for making the effort to stay healthy!

>

> Lynda

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Well, I have done research on this subject lately! I'm in the New

England area of the USA. We can't eat cold meats, soft cheeses,

undercooked eggs, or several forms of seafood. We are not only

counselled about Lysteria, but salmonella, and high levels of

mercury! In fact tuna is one of the fish that I'm supposed to

watch. My doc said that I can have 12 oz. of tuna a week, and she

recommended the light tuna over the albacore. It seems that the

bigger the fish, the higher the mercury levels.

I know a lot of pregnant women who do not follow these rules, but I

agree with you Phoenix. I don't want to take any chances at this

point. I'm at least going to keep my diet pretty strict throughout

the first trimester.

> > Phoenix, I have never heard of Listeria- now I'm completely

curious

> > as to why! That certainly adds to the challenge of eating

clean.

> > Glad to hear that the protein shake helped.

> >

> > Are there any trainers in your area that specialize in pregnant

> > women? Maybe you could do just a couple of sessions to get some

> > ideas?

> >

> > In any case, good for you for making the effort to stay healthy!

> >

> > Lynda

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In a message dated 4/16/2004 9:08:42 PM Pacific Standard Time,

leannekoren@... writes:

I know that most of you all on here seem to be a little older -

nobody take offense to that please - but can anybody out there help

me out with morning sickness.

My ex wife used to lay in bed and eat a couple of crackers before she got up.

I, on the other hand, ran out of the room screaming.

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Organic ginger root - take several thin slices to make a tea.

Should do it - does it for many women.

ABO Specifics Inc. - http://www.foodforyourblood.com

morning sickness

I know that most of you all on here seem to be a little older -

nobody take offense to that please - but can anybody out there help

me out with morning sickness.

This is my fifth pregnancy and my third pregnancy being on the BTD.

I have done this for several years now. But this morning sickness

this just kills me!!

I usually don't have it in the morning. Most of the time it hits me

about the afternoon and lasts until I go to bed at night. I try to

stick to mostly beneficial foods. I can keep myself from throwing

up but it's not easy. If I stick something like speariment or

peppermint in my mouth really quick that will help to settle my

stomach. But I really don't want to eat candy and chew gum all day!

Any suggestions will be welcomed! Please keep it cheap! Our budget

is extremely limited!

Thanks for your help.

Leanne

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Vitamin B6 , 100 mg three times a day did the trick for me. And eat small,

frequent, high protein meals to keep your blood sugar even. My fifth pregnancy

was also the hardest one in which to control the nausea, to the point where I

had to keep up the B6 through the 6th or 7th month!

I discovered the B6 cure in my third pregnancy, when we were planning a long

car trip during my first trimester, and I read an article in Prevention magazine

(this was 1983) telling about B6 for nausea. I had always had a tendency to

carsickness, but on that trip, during which I took 50 mg. several times a day, I

was even able to read while riding in the car! Since then, even when not

pregnant, I have often started taking B6 a day or two before a trip, just so

that I can make use of the hours to read to myself or aloud to the family.

Ginger has a reputation for calming a queasy stomach, also. It was the

crystallized ginger given to me on a windy mountain road one time that got me

hooked on that confection!

Gretchen

morning sickness

I know that most of you all on here seem to be a little older -

nobody take offense to that please - but can anybody out there help

me out with morning sickness.

This is my fifth pregnancy and my third pregnancy being on the BTD.

I have done this for several years now. But this morning sickness

this just kills me!!

I usually don't have it in the morning. Most of the time it hits me

about the afternoon and lasts until I go to bed at night. I try to

stick to mostly beneficial foods. I can keep myself from throwing

up but it's not easy. If I stick something like speariment or

peppermint in my mouth really quick that will help to settle my

stomach. But I really don't want to eat candy and chew gum all day!

Any suggestions will be welcomed! Please keep it cheap! Our budget

is extremely limited!

Thanks for your help.

Leanne

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There are some natural morning sickness pills you can get at the

Health Food stores. I got a brand called " Rainbow

Light " ...unfortuantely there were over $10 for 30 pills, but I was

desperate!!! I too am on my 5th pregnancy, and the morning sickness

just seems to get worse with each child. I couldn't keep anything

down for over 4 months whether it was BTD or not.

You also may try taking your pre-nats at night before bed, or on a

full stomach. I know that if I take them on an empty stomach I can't

keep anything down.

The ginger slices work if you eat them plain without making them into

tea. I would keep them in my purse for emergency's. I couldn't even

keep water down :-( I also had to eat every 2 hours, not very much

though.

Good Luck to you, and hope that you get better soon. I know I

started to feel better around the 20th week.....but time sure went

slow when you feel lousy!!

p.s. some of the other methods given as advice didn't work for me.

So you may have to experiment until you find something that works.

Actually nothing worked 100% for me, but a few things helped a

little. And at that stage a little was better than nothing!!

~

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There is a homeopathic remedy called Nat.Phos. that can work amazingly quick

and it is perfectly safe. 4 little pills under the tongue that dissolve

instantly. $5 - $10 depending on size and brand. The brand NuAge has a small

bottle maybe $4 that would be good to try and see if it helps. Check your hfs.

Do you have trouble with muscle cramps?

Are you drinking extra water?

Kathy

leannekoren <leannekoren@...> wrote:

I know that most of you all on here seem to be a little older -

nobody take offense to that please - but can anybody out there help

me out with morning sickness.

This is my fifth pregnancy and my third pregnancy being on the BTD.

I have done this for several years now. But this morning sickness

this just kills me!!

I usually don't have it in the morning. Most of the time it hits me

about the afternoon and lasts until I go to bed at night. I try to

stick to mostly beneficial foods. I can keep myself from throwing

up but it's not easy. If I stick something like speariment or

peppermint in my mouth really quick that will help to settle my

stomach. But I really don't want to eat candy and chew gum all day!

Any suggestions will be welcomed! Please keep it cheap! Our budget

is extremely limited!

Thanks for your help.

Leanne

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Hi Leanne,

I haven't ever been pregnant, but I have had some bouts with nausea

from some medications during the past few months. Something that has

helped me is to drink some seltzer water and eat some Blue Diamond

brand pecan Nut Thins (crackers). They have one avoid ingredient for

O's (potato starch), which is the third ingredient after rice flour

and pecan meal. This small amount of potato starch hasn't bothered

me, and the combination of the crackers and seltzer water has

rapidly stopped my nausea. Also, sometimes seltzer water alone works

for me. (I'll also be trying the ginger that others have

recommended.)

Rosemary

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I had hyperemesis with my last baby, who turned 1 in November, despite being

on a WAP diet. For the first 22 weeks, if I threw up just 40 times in one

day, it was a good day. I just got a positive pregnancy test. I am less

than 4 weeks along, and am wanting to get a jump on it this time. Has

anyone on the list successfully gotten through a subsequent pregnancy

without difficulty after a bad pregnancy nausea wise? How did you do it?

I'm going to start Milk Thistle and Dandelion now, along with upping the cod

liver oil and I will be starting butter oil tonight. I'm eating WAP style

and taking kvass daily. I'd like to hear any other suggestions.

Thanks,

KerryAnn

owner, NTOAMC/

owner, NT-kids

http://cookingnt.blogspot.com/ - updated 12/15

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AH!!!! IT'S CONTAGIOUS!!!! LOL sorry, I haven't tested but I am feeling so

tired, dizzy, neaseated and cranky I don't know what else it could be. Right

now I am just happy to be puky, I wasn't at all with my last 2 pregnancies

and I lost both. I was MAJOR sick with my first, and sick with my second.

Third and fourth no nausea at all and I didn't carry longer than 6 weeks

tops. (I was on the SAD diet for that time though. Then nothing, I had major

fertility problems until I started NT again, then BANG first try looks like

pregnancy #5 has begun LOL.) I don't know for SURE yet, I'll test in a week

if I still feel gross, but it seems pretty likely LOL. I am going to add

lots of ginger to my ferments and I have my first batch of beet kvass

brewing on the counter right now. Happy pregnancy :o)

On 12/19/05, KerryAnn <krankedyann@...> wrote:

>

> I had hyperemesis with my last baby, who turned 1 in November, despite

> being

> on a WAP diet. For the first 22 weeks, if I threw up just 40 times in one

>

> day, it was a good day. I just got a positive pregnancy test. I am less

> than 4 weeks along, and am wanting to get a jump on it this time. Has

> anyone on the list successfully gotten through a subsequent pregnancy

> without difficulty after a bad pregnancy nausea wise? How did you do it?

> I'm going to start Milk Thistle and Dandelion now, along with upping the

> cod

> liver oil and I will be starting butter oil tonight. I'm eating WAP style

>

> and taking kvass daily. I'd like to hear any other suggestions.

>

> Thanks,

> KerryAnn

>

> --

> Mrs. () Siemens

>

> Mommy to Zack and Liddy...so far

>

> no fear, only faith; no guilt, only grace; no pride, only praise; no

> claim, only Christ

>

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KerryAnn, my pregnancy nausea was due to rapidly dropping blood

sugar. And I was able to avoid " being on empty " with regular meal

timing and with mixed meals (not all protein, or all fat, or all

carb).

My 3d pregnancy I didn't have nausea during pregnancy, but threw up

with every single contraction! that was interesting. For me it has

to do with the *steepness of the drop* in blood sugar, not the

starting or ending level. For that labor, I was weirdly waiting 3x

longer between contractions, and each contraction was 3x stronger

than normal. Like the waves that sunk the Edmund Fitzgerald I think!

oh wait if you're having babies you're too young to remember, ha ha ha

Connie

>

> I had hyperemesis with my last baby, who turned 1 in November,

despite being

> on a WAP diet. For the first 22 weeks, if I threw up just 40 times

in one

> day, it was a good day. I just got a positive pregnancy test. I

am less

> than 4 weeks along, and am wanting to get a jump on it this time.

Has

> anyone on the list successfully gotten through a subsequent

pregnancy

> without difficulty after a bad pregnancy nausea wise?

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Connie,

I can say without a doubt that my MS had nothing to do with blood sugar

levels. I have a monitor and kept a VERY tight check on it, and my blood

sugar was very stable the whole time. That's why I'm anxious- I know how to

control blood sugar levels.

KerryAnn

owner, NTOAMC/

owner, NT-kids

http://cookingnt.blogspot.com/ - updated 12/15

----- Original Message -----

From: " cbrown2008 " <cbrown2008@...>

> KerryAnn, my pregnancy nausea was due to rapidly dropping blood

> sugar.

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