RE: Hemochromatosis and vitamin c mega dosing

[Guest guest]

Judy,

Hemochromatosis aka Iron Overload Disease (IOD). It's been an " issue " with

parrots for years, so I've found myself studying it on and off for my

" flock's " benefits. Parrots exhibit the same symptoms as humans in this

disease...

It's genetic - more common among Germans, English, Irish, and quite a few

others that I can't name off the top-of-my-head.. The stored iron rusts

the body out from the inside - one of the main reasons they believe men

suffer heart disease more than women as women at least have menstruation,

clearing some of the iron out. Vitamin C is an issue, as is fluoride (it

doubles to triples the iron) as is Echinacea (high in iron)..you don't want

to dose up on high levels of Vitamin C WITH Echinacea if you're in a " high

risk " genetic group. And you especially don't want to do that if you have

fluoridated unfiltered water.

Anyway, here's a copy of something I posted to another group which should

get you started on learning more..HTH. There are websites devoted to

providing good information - here's a quick recap of some highlights...

http://www.ironoverload.org/Diet.html> Review and description of " purpose

of iron fortification " and types of iron:

http://food.oregonstate.edu/c/fe.html Good overview of symptoms - html

http://www.americanhs.org/whatisit.htm

" The fortification (adulteration would be a better term) of our foods

with iron should be stopped now! Germany, France, Belgium, and Italy have

never allowed their food companies to add iron to their foods and England

has

since lifted the requirement. This should tell us something. The more

iron there is in the diet, the more that is absorbed, and this practice is

contraindicated in well over 30 million of our people. " (I really like

this woman's site!! VERY good information - not alarmist - all my

reading/research would confirm what she's written on all her pages.):

http://www.americanhs.org/animalHH.htm

http://www.ironoverload.org/Diet.html - What if you're anemic?

There's a very specific blood panel which detects IOD (Hemochromatosis)

serum iron,

total iron binding capacity,

hemoglobin and hematocrit, ferritin,

serum transferrin receptor,

transferrin and transferrin iron saturation percentage.

<http://www.irondisorders.org/disorders/hem/detection_ironpanel.htm>

http://www.irondisorders.org/disorders/hem/detection_ironpanel.htm

Iron feeds tumors: Another problem is that iron feeds tumor cells. Iron

is a growth factor for viruses, bacteria, fungi and tumor cells. Take away

the iron and copper and you stop tumor growth and shrink the tumor. Some

anti-cancer drugs are iron-binders, such as the mycin drugs (Adriamycin),

but they also produce mortal side effects. How can iron and copper be

removed from the body? Chelation therapy. Chelation refers to removal

(a claw) of minerals.

The body performs its own chelation by producing iron-binding molecules

(ferritin, transferrin, lactoferrin). These binders are often

overwhelmed by the iron. Transferrin transports excess iron back to the

liver, which

is where most tumors spread first.

http://www.askbillsardi.com/sdm.asp?pg=cancer_regimen

-Sharon, NH

Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will

have plenty to eat.

Hemochromatosis and vitamin c mega dosing

I get newletters from the Doctoryourself website which is a website

that talks alot about curing lots of diseases with vitamins. Whenever

I feel a cold coming on I take mega doses of vitamin c to take care of

the problem.

This weeks newsletter talks about a condition I had never heard of

called Hemochromatosis. I guess it is something about not being able to

have lots of meat iron and a problem with taking lots of vitamin c?

Does anyone know anything about this? Dr. Saul recommends a low to no

meat diet, but since discovering Native Nutrition I am far from that.

Do I need to stop mega dosing?

Thanks,

Judy

[Guest guest]

Sharon

Thank you very much for this information. This is scary stuff, I can't

believe I've never heard of it before! I guess I'll keep doing some

research, I have both German and English family lines.

Thanks,

Judy

--- In , " Sharon son " <sharon@e...>

wrote:

>

> Judy,

> Hemochromatosis aka Iron Overload Disease (IOD). It's been

an " issue " with

> parrots for years, so I've found myself studying it on and off for my

> " flock's " benefits. Parrots exhibit the same symptoms as humans in

this

> disease...

[Guest guest]

You're welcome, Judy. I don't think most people have heard of it -

including mainstream doctors. The CDC, NIH, and Mayo Clinic all love

writing about it, though. Since learning about IOD, years ago, I steered

clear of any foods with iron additives - breads, pasta, cereal because it's

thought that the bioavailability of synthetic folates and iron are DOUBLE

that of naturally-occurring, especially risky for those with the inherited

double gene for IOD. On the other hand, even without the gene for IOD,

there are plenty of other negatives affecting health from consuming

synthetic folates & iron - heart disease, depletion of B12 considering cause

of dementia, ad nauseum. Here's an example of research discussing how

synthetic folates/iron react/store differently in the body:

http://docstore.ingenta.com/cgi-bin/ds_deliver/1/u/d/ISIS/23795130.1/cabi/ph

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Friends of mine who have tested positive avoid all synthetic forms of

folates/irons, donate blood once a month, and manage their IOD with whole

food diets along the lines of Nourishing Traditions. I think it's good

practice for everyone to do this, however. It is considered to be severely

under-diagnosed in this country. My view on why that is isn't because the

information isn't available and accessible, but that it isn't promoted by

the drug companies as a Big Money Maker. When I think of how doctors

over-treat anemia, it makes my blood boil. The only reason for anemia is

internal bleeding but no one tests for that. Instead, they prescribe

mega-doses, don't tell anyone about avoiding Vitamin C and fluoridated

water... Ut oh..I feel a soapbox rant coming on so I'll wind up..LOL...

I should have included this article regarding iron/manganese in your water

system: http://www.water-research.net/iron.htm

-Sharon, NH

Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will

have plenty to eat.

Re: Hemochromatosis and vitamin c mega dosing

Sharon

Thank you very much for this information. This is scary stuff, I can't

believe I've never heard of it before! I guess I'll keep doing some

research, I have both German and English family lines.

Thanks,

Judy