RE: Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

[Guest guest]

As far as I know the jury is out on whether pastuerizing kills es or

not. Quite frankly it states in the Merk Vet textbook that it doesn't and

that it is a zoonotic disease they believe is linked to Crohns but do you

ever hear anyone say these things about pastuerized milk? No.

es is quite prevelant, I have been told, in large commercial operations

but it can also be tested for. Could you ask if the cattle have been tested

for it?

I have no knowledge of Lyme disease. Where we live there are ticks all

summer and if I am going to get it I guess I am.

Debbie Chikousky

Manitoba, Canada

gdchik@...

" The person who wants something will find a way.

The person who doesn't will find an excuse. "

Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

> Hello everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk. A long story

> short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I

> recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3

> hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and

> this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk

> for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this

> disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and

> many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much

> with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I

> couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make,

> especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it

> raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about

> it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks

> Farm both in Michigan. I really would appreciate any advice, you guys

> are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!

>

> Thank you

>

[Guest guest]

There is a test that can be done for it. If the dairy is selling raw milk you should ask. There hasent been a link found to crones, so not sure the risk. There are a few dairys that are Yonies free and pasturize the milk fed to the calves and test all there cows. Not sure on the Lymes disease.

Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Hello everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk.. A long story short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3 hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make, especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks Farm both in Michigan.

I really would appreciate any advice, you guys are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!Thank you__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

, where in Michigan do you live? These are

complex questions and I might be able to answer your questions better if you

contacted me directly. I tried to contact you off line but you didn’t

provide any contact information in your Yahoo profile. If you would like

more information contact me on my email which is in my personal profile on the

group website. It concerns me that some farmer who is a possible source

of milk is saying thinks like this that are alarming and factually inaccurate.

If this farmer is convinced that she got Lyme’s disease from drinking her

milk, why would she be offering it for consumption by others?

Ted

Beals, MD

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of meloushep02

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007

2:52 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Yonies disease

and Lyme's disease

Hello everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk.

A long story

short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I

recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3

hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and

this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk

for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this

disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and

many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much

with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I

couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make,

especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it

raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about

it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks

Farm both in Michigan.

I really would appreciate any advice, you guys

are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!

Thank you

[Guest guest]

I encourage

everyone to test for es.

It is insidious

problem you do not want to deal with.

Proper

mineralization is also a key in preventing the scourge of mycobacterium Para

tuberculosis (es)

www.majestyfarm.com

Sometimes I

wonder whether the world is being run by smart

people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.

From:

RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of Albert Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007

5:22 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Re: Yonies

disease and Lyme's disease

There is a test that can be done for it. If the dairy

is selling raw milk you should ask. There hasent been a link found to crones,

so not sure the risk. There are a few dairys that are Yonies free and pasturize

the milk fed to the calves and test all there cows. Not sure on the Lymes

disease.

Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Hello everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk.. A long story

short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I

recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3

hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and

this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk

for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this

disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and

many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much

with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I

couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make,

especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it

raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about

it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks

Farm both in Michigan.

I really would appreciate any advice, you guys

are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!

Thank you

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

We have been using Lampley’s

products on horses for years and now we use them on all our cows. He has

a product that can cure es and by trying it will let you know if the cow

has es. His website is www.franklampley.com.

He has a great Vitamix product that we use on any sick animal. He’s

got some interesting stories about how the FDA tried to assassinate him –

I just know his stuff works great and I believe he is right on when he says

that boosting the immune system will cure anything.

From:

RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007

6:50 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: [sPAM]RE:

Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

I encourage everyone to test for es.

It is insidious problem you do not want to deal with.

Proper mineralization is also a key in preventing the

scourge of mycobacterium Para tuberculosis

(es)

www.majestyfarm.com

Sometimes I wonder whether the world is being run by

smart

people who are putting us on or by imbeciles who really mean it.

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]

On Behalf Of Albert Pereira

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007

5:22 PM

To: RawDairy

Subject: Re: Yonies

disease and Lyme's disease

There is a test

that can be done for it. If the dairy is selling raw milk you should ask. There

hasent been a link found to crones, so not sure the risk. There are a few

dairys that are Yonies free and pasturize the milk fed to the calves and test

all there cows. Not sure on the Lymes disease.

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Message ----

From: meloushep02 <meloushep02>

To: RawDairy

Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 12:52:28 PM

Subject: Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Hello

everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk.. A long story

short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I

recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3

hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and

this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk

for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this

disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and

many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much

with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I

couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make,

especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it

raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about

it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks

Farm both in Michigan.

I really would appreciate any advice, you guys

are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!

Thank you

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Doc Dettloff, a long time organic vet, said he's seen several herds

that had a lot of es clear up once they got on an organic program

that included pasture and more hay. Also saw it happen when a. herd

was moved from a barn with stray voltage to one that was clean.

Minerals and proper diet is the key to pretty much all that plagues

" modern " dairy. Other wise known as common sense!

Cheyenne

[Guest guest]

Your #1 Priority IMO is Get your Daughter to find her Children a new Doctor! Soy MILK! BAD BAD BAD!!!!

To: RawDairy From: mgkchild@...Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:28:28 -0700Subject: RE: Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Can you please discuss this topic more on post? My daughter's pediatrician told her that under no circumstances should she give her children raw milk. The same pediatrician told my son that his daughter is getting to much from the milk and must now give her 2 % milk. Then another pediatrician took my god sons off cow's milk all together and put them on soy milk to stop ear infections.I know nothing about Yonies disease, but I do know Lyme's disease is from ticks., If it makes you feel any better, I grew up drinking raw milk and we as a family (8 kids) had nothing but perfect health. Once I left the farm and started eating foods and milk bought in the grocery store I started getting sickly.TerriTed Beals wrote:

, where in Michigan do you live? These are complex questions and I might be able to answer your questions better if you contacted me directly. I tried to contact you off line but you didn’t provide any contact information in your Yahoo profile. If you would like more information contact me on my email which is in my personal profile on the group website. It concerns me that some farmer who is a possible source of milk is saying thinks like this that are alarming and factually inaccurate. If this farmer is convinced that she got Lyme’s disease from drinking her milk, why would she be offering it for consumption by others?

Ted Beals, MD

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of meloushep02Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:52 PMTo: RawDairy Subject: Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Hello everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk. A long story short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3 hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make, especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks Farm both in Michigan. I really would appreciate any advice, you guys are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!Thank you

__________________________________________________

[Guest guest]

Your #1 Priority IMO is Get your Daughter to find her Children a new Doctor! Soy MILK! BAD BAD BAD!!!!

To: RawDairy From: mgkchild@...Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2007 16:28:28 -0700Subject: RE: Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Can you please discuss this topic more on post? My daughter's pediatrician told her that under no circumstances should she give her children raw milk. The same pediatrician told my son that his daughter is getting to much from the milk and must now give her 2 % milk. Then another pediatrician took my god sons off cow's milk all together and put them on soy milk to stop ear infections.I know nothing about Yonies disease, but I do know Lyme's disease is from ticks., If it makes you feel any better, I grew up drinking raw milk and we as a family (8 kids) had nothing but perfect health. Once I left the farm and started eating foods and milk bought in the grocery store I started getting sickly.TerriTed Beals wrote:

, where in Michigan do you live? These are complex questions and I might be able to answer your questions better if you contacted me directly. I tried to contact you off line but you didn’t provide any contact information in your Yahoo profile. If you would like more information contact me on my email which is in my personal profile on the group website. It concerns me that some farmer who is a possible source of milk is saying thinks like this that are alarming and factually inaccurate. If this farmer is convinced that she got Lyme’s disease from drinking her milk, why would she be offering it for consumption by others?

Ted Beals, MD

From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ] On Behalf Of meloushep02Sent: Tuesday, October 23, 2007 2:52 PMTo: RawDairy Subject: Yonies disease and Lyme's disease

Hello everyone, I'm new here and also new to raw milk. A long story short, my two kids have many many food allergies due to leaky gut I recently found out they can drink raw milk. So I have been traveling 3 hours to get my milk and possibly found a place to get it closer and this farmer scared me about Yonies disease. That I am taking a risk for me and my children everytime I drink raw milk due to this disease..Also Lymes disease which she claims she got from raw milk and many farmers do as well....WHAT DO I DO??? I have been through so much with my children and am trying so hard to do the best for them and I couldn't stand the thought of hurting them with decisions I make, especially because most people think I'm nuts anyways for drinking it raw in the first place. Is this a prevelant disease? Do I worry about it? I got to Oliver Farms right now and am going to check out Hicks Farm both in Michigan. I really would appreciate any advice, you guys are the experts and I have no one else to talk to about this!!Thank you

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