Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 , >This does seem to be something you can teach yourself. Recently, I had to >get on a medication and it made me soooooo tired. I decided to see if I >could :hear: what my body needed. I meditated and got the image of a >particular color of blue green. Jumped from that to :spirulina:. Sure >enough, adding a lot more protein to my diet, some of it in the form of blue >green algae, really helped. > > It may be something we need to " relearn. " I have had similar experiences with what I call " gut level cravings, " not addictive in nature, but clearly the body asking for something. >The other thing this connects to in my mind is that alcoholism is the only >major addiction that you can die from in withdrawals. A person has to be >pretty far gone, but it is possible because the body of the alcoholic has >shifted the way it gets energy. No other addiction is like this. > >YR > Actually, the prescription drug Xanax also has withdrawal symptoms that include death, or at least it did when I was a pharmacy tech years ago. I tell you, some of those prescription drugs are pretty scary, especially with so many new ones coming on the scene. After working and reading and looking at the huge foreign molecules from the literature of various drug bottles the public at large never sees, I stay far away from meds. Deanna Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 --- In , Rathbone <yvonr@e...> wrote: > Well, my big exception is glucose addiction. Once you control for that, it > becomes much easier to :hear: the often quite unambiguous messages that our > bodies tell us. I do not know of any studies regarding this so I only have > anectodal evidence and reasoning to back up my idea. > > The first major experience I remember along these lines goes as follows: I > had a weird dream, one of those dreams that lingers all day as an unnamable > feeling. The dream took place in South America. As I was driving home from > work thinking about the dream, I suddenly had an intense desire for Brazil > nuts. Up to that point I had never liked the taste of Brazil nuts, but I > didnt question the urge. I stopped at the store and bought some nuts and > they were the best tasting food I had ever eaten. I wondered how I could > have ever disliked them. A couple of weeks later, I was reading an article > on Selenium deficiency and recognizing symptoms that I had had up to the > point of eating the nuts. Sure enough, Brazil nuts were listed as the top > source of natural selenium. VERY INTERESTING, MOREOVER BECAUSE I AM FROM BRAZIL AND ACTUALLY LIVE IN BRAZIL. > I got to thinking (this is the reasoning part), if cows can search out herbs > that help with various ailments, maybe it is just the way bodies have > evolved. Our bodies can analyze the nutrition in food and create cravings > for those foods it needs. Our bodies have all sorts of feedback mechanisms > to tell whether certain hormones or enzymes are needed. Its not a big jump > to think that the body can tell if it needs other things. I MUST HAVE HAD SIMILAR EXPERIENCES, BUT CAN'T RECOLLECT ANY RIGHT NOW. ONCE A RUSSIAN GUY, WHO WAS LIVING IN MY HOUSE AS A GUEST, HAD SEVERE DIARRHEA. HE WOULDN'T TAKE MEDICINE, BUT INSTEAD ASKED ME TO GIVE HIM SOME BREAD. THEN HE TOASTED THE BREAD UNTIL IT WAS LIKE COAL AND ATE THAT. I FOUND THAT STRANGE, BUT LATER I LEARNED THAT COAL CAN STOP DIARRHEA AND CLEANSE THE BOWELS. I DON'T KNOW IF HE DID IT BECAUSE OF A PREVIOUS EXPERIENCE OR ACTED ON INSTINCT. BUT SOMEHOW HIS BODY NEEDED THAT COAL AND HE ATE IT. > > Since this time I have worked to find out how my cravings relate to my > experience in my body. I dont think you can just eat whatever smells good. > The cravings for things you need arent always based on what seems like it > will taste good. Another anecdote: Because of antibiotic overuse, I am > prone to yeast infections. One herbal remedy that helps me a lot is Myrrh > tincture. This stuff tastes awful!!! And yet, after I had taken it a few > times, my body started to crave it whenever I had binged on junk food. This > is not a craving for the taste at all. I still have to hold my breath when > I take it, but my body clearly tells me: I need this stuff. ISN'T THIS LIKE BOLDO? DO YOU KNOW BOLDO? IT IS EXTREMELY BITTER. I GET NAUSEA JUST TO PUT A SMALL PIECE INTO MY MOUTH. BUT WHEN THE LIVER IS NOT WORKING, THE BODY MAY ACCEPT IT MORE EASILY. DOGS AND CATS EAT GRASSES WHEN THEY GET SICK. AND HENS SIMPLY FAST. > This does seem to be something you can teach yourself. Recently, I had to > get on a medication and it made me soooooo tired. I decided to see if I > could :hear: what my body needed. I meditated and got the image of a > particular color of blue green. Jumped from that to :spirulina:. Sure > enough, adding a lot more protein to my diet, some of it in the form of blue > green algae, really helped. SO YOU HAVE THIS SIXTH SENSE, HAVEN'T YOU? > The wrench in the works is glucose addiction. This is when something is > happening in the body that causes a person to crave glucose when they dont > really needed it. Or shouldnt need it. If you have a systemic yeast > infection (and men get those too) the yeast will eat a lot of the sugar you > injest making you want to eat more. You will not get a good reading on how > much carbs you really need until you beat back the yeast to reasonable > levels. > > As far as I can tell, glucose is the only substance naturally used by the > body that can so easily get out of whack like this. Endorphins are the > other substance, but you have to get addicted to opiates for that. Its a > little bit easier to get hooked on wheat! THAT'S WHAT HEIDI HAS BEEN TALKING ABOUT. YET I SEE IT IS EASIER FOR SOME PEOPLE TO QUIT AN ADDICTION THAN IT IS FOR OTHERS. THINK OF TOBACCO. I DON'T KNOW WHAT IS AT STAKE HERE. DISCIPLINE? WILL POWER? > The other thing this connects to in my mind is that alcoholism is the only > major addiction that you can die from in withdrawals. A person has to be > pretty far gone, but it is possible because the body of the alcoholic has > shifted the way it gets energy. No other addiction is like this. DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN AA? THIS WAS A VERY INSTRUCTIVE POST TO READ. THANK YOU. José > YR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 --- In , Rathbone <yvonr@e...> wrote: > On 6/18/05 12:33 PM, the Muses inspired José Barbosa to write: > I dont know what Boldo is. But it does sound like the experience I had with > Myrrh. ** Also called Peumus boldus, the technical name. It is a shrub coming from Chile. > > > > SO YOU HAVE THIS SIXTH SENSE, HAVEN'T YOU? > > That makes it sound like this is something psychic or paranormal. I dont > think it is. I think other animals do this instinctively. The body > produces some kind of message in the form of a craving for a particular > food. I dont think the mechanism has to be supernatural. > > I do think that because humans use language so much, we often discount or > ignore the messages our bodies give us. :Listening: to the messages of the > body often involves some kind of translation into imagery or poetic > language. So my craving for Brazil nuts gets expressed in dream imagery of > South America. My craving spirulina gets expressed in a blue green color > and a pond scum smell. If I am patient, I can sometime realize what these > mean. But these kinds associations probably had a lot to do with how my > brain is wired, what images are near what other images, etc. Again, no > psychic stuff. ** I agree. Actually, I was thinking of " intuition " . This is a most powerful " sense " and I know it can be developed. > > I am a smoker. I havent smoked for a very long time, but I can still feel > the addiction. I have heard that tobacco is the most addictive substance > around. I dont know what makes some addictions harder to kick than others. > ** I was a smoker. I quit it about twenty years ago and feel no desire. My father was also able to quit some ten years before he died. I know of people who stop and start again like a yo-yo. It must be very hard for a heavy smoker to adapt to an occasional cigarette or a couple of cigarettes a day. It seems to be all or nothing. , may I ask you if you are now into physical exercise? I think it helps you to quit tobacco. > >> The other thing this connects to in my mind is that alcoholism is > > the only > >> major addiction that you can die from in withdrawals. A person has > > to be > >> pretty far gone, but it is possible because the body of the > > alcoholic has > >> shifted the way it gets energy. No other addiction is like this. > > > > > > DON'T YOU BELIEVE IN AA? > > How does that connect? ** Well, isn't AA the acronym of Alcoholics Anonymous? Wasn't it founded in the USA? I always read and hear good reports from them. I tend to think it works. So maybe alcoholism has a solution. ** My conclusion from this conversation we had is that yes, we can train the body to tell us what to eat, among other things. I was somewhat sceptical about it in the beginning. You sort of convinced me it is possible. Yet it is a very complex mechanism, if I may say so. Maybe the practice of meditation or mindful observation or intuition, dream interpretation etc may apply in this case. Thank you, . JC > > YR Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 18, 2005 Report Share Posted June 18, 2005 Thank you for the explanation. My English failed again. José --- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...> wrote: > > ** Well, isn't AA the acronym of Alcoholics Anonymous? Wasn't it > > founded in the USA? I always read and hear good reports from them. I > > tend to think it works. So maybe alcoholism has a solution. > > AA worked for me (18 years sober in October), but sobriety wasn't > really what she was talking about. She was talking about dying of > withdrawal when you're a hardcore late stage alcoholic--someone who is > very very deep into the disease and will probably die of it anyway. I > was lucky, I got out early and young. > > Lynn S. > 10/15/87 > married to A. 3/15/90 > > ------ > Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky > http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com > http://www.democracyfororegon.com * http://www.knitting911.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 > > Re: Re: The body knows (long) > > > > > >> ** Well, isn't AA the acronym of Alcoholics Anonymous? Wasn't it > >> founded in the USA? I always read and hear good reports from them. I > >> tend to think it works. So maybe alcoholism has a solution. > > According to Ross who ran addiction clinics and authored " The Diet > Cure " and " The Mood Cure " the failure rate for groups like AA (and other > organizations/clinics that use a pyschological approach) is about 90%. It's > only when she started using amino acids to correct brain chemistry that her > clinic's own success rate increased dramatically. > Gee, that was news to me, really. Thanks again. JC > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " - - > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2005 Report Share Posted June 19, 2005 Hello Lynn: I was a little embarrassed when you first contradicted my impression about AA. Not that you shouldn't have done so. But I was embarrassed anyway. Now I am confirming that you know what you are talking about. And I appreciate it. Thanks. JC --- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...> wrote: > > According to Ross who ran addiction clinics and authored " The > > Diet > > Cure " and " The Mood Cure " the failure rate for groups like AA (and > > other > > organizations/clinics that use a pyschological approach) is about 90%. > > AA's success rate is 15%, which considering that going it alone the > success rate is closer to 5% (probably a lot lower) is pretty good. And > the " failures " include people who come back three or four or more times > before they finally " get it " --who knows how many times people like that > get counted. I'm not saying nutrition can't help--obviously it can. > But dismissing AA for its failure rate isn't very useful. Alcoholism > wrecks people's lives, and getting sober is just the start of a long > process. When you sober up a drunken asshole, what you've got is a > sober asshole. AA helps people stop being assholes and start being > responsible for themselves, including their pasts. I'm a much better > person for having been through alcoholism and recovery, with more still > to do! > > Lynn S. > > ------ > Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky > http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com > http://www.democracyfororegon.com * http://www.knitting911.net Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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