Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 I made ghee from unsalted Kerrygold buttter and it was every bit as beautiful as that which was being sold by Organics at the conference. Suze, if you didn't have a casein reaction to the Amish ghee, maybe make some ghee yourself and see how it goes. $2.49/8 oz. at Trader Joe's. I guess the ghee is so yellow because the milk solids--which are white-ish--are removed, so the color of the butter oil becomes that much more intense. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 4, 2005 Report Share Posted December 4, 2005 >-----Original Message----- >From: >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of downwardog7 > > >I made ghee from unsalted Kerrygold buttter and it was every bit as >beautiful as that which was being sold by Organics at the >conference. Suze, if you didn't have a casein reaction to the Amish >ghee, maybe make some ghee yourself and see how it goes. $2.49/8 oz. >at Trader Joe's. I guess the ghee is so yellow because the milk >solids--which are white-ish--are removed, so the color of the butter >oil becomes that much more intense. > B. Hey , That sounds like a great idea. I had actually thought of buying local raw butter and making ghee, but I'm afraid I wouldn't know how to make sure all the casein is gone. I remember the farm person I talked to said they heated the butter for something like 8 hrs. at a low temp. to make the ghee. I don't recalll what temp she said they used. What temp did you use and how long did you heat it? That's great that Kerry Gold came out so yellow! I could do that, as it's available here locally. Where did you learn that the milk-solids are white-ish? BTW, I fought with the airport security supervisor about not irradiating my ghee, but the bastard won! Grrr...so I don't know what it tastes like. No zapped crap for me ;-) I bet it's great though (when un-irradiated)! I was just wondering why you are using ghee, cuz I though you tested negative to the cow casein IgA allergy? Although I understand that ghee is great for cooking regardless. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 18, 2005 Report Share Posted December 18, 2005 Suze, > That sounds like a great idea. I had actually thought of buying local raw > butter and making ghee, but I'm afraid I wouldn't know how to make sure all > the casein is gone. Not sure of your level of sensitivity but when the ghee is filtered into a clear jar after cooking, it will be a translucent yellow. If there are milk solids left, they will form a visible layer at the bottom. Of course, I don't know about sub-visible levels. I remember the farm person I talked to said they > heated the butter for something like 8 hrs. at a low temp. to make the ghee. > I don't recalll what temp she said they used. What temp did you use and how > long did you heat it? I have a gas stove and melt the butter at very low heat then skim so I can see what's going on at the bottom of the pot. Perhaps one can just skim once at the end but I'm an *eensy* bit obsessive that way, heh. Once the butter has melted, I use a diffuser on the flame so the heat is as low as I can get it. It probably cooks about 45 mins. It is done when the curds on the bottom turn from white to slightly golden. A crockpot might work to make it over eight hours but otherwise I can't understand what the s are doing for eight hours making ghee. Oh, unless they make, like, vats of it, I reckon that could take a long time. And of course they've got plenty of cheap labor to keep on watch. I cook down three pounds of butter at a time and skim about one cup of foam. That's great that Kerry Gold came out so yellow! I > could do that, as it's available here locally. Where did you learn that the > milk-solids are white-ish? The foam that rises is white-ish, as are the curds at the bottom of the pot. Once these are removed, a lovely clear yellow fat remains. ....I was just wondering why you are using ghee, cuz I though you tested > negative to the cow casein IgA allergy? I got a nine on the casein test and a ten on the gluten--a metaphor for my chronic ambivalence. I take a half-tablespoon of GP butter oil everyday but because I eat alone am otherwise unable to go through a pound of raw butter before it spoils so I've given it up. Also, with winter butter, I'm not real motivated. Nor can I think of anything to put it on. Other than ghee and butter oil, I don't eat dairy because it feels too heavy. I mean, this is what has evolved in my eating from day to day, not any strict rules or anything. I'm certainly not opposed to a bit of cheese or whipped cream from time to time. Although I understand that ghee is > great for cooking regardless. Ghee is ideal for cooking because it is such a stable fat; it is the milk solids that burn/spoil. I also make medicated/herbalized ghees for my own use/entertainment and for my clients. Because it is so stable, it's a great way to preserve herbs and a terrific carrier into the tissues of the nervous system. *tip, use a scrap of t-shirt/ribbed undershirt as filter in the strainer--not cheesecloth--much more effective. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Hi , > but > because I eat alone am otherwise unable to go through a pound > of raw butter before it spoils so I've given it up. Help me understand this? I've had raw butter (that I made myself or bought directly from the farm) at room temp in a water bath type butter cup for well over a month and it never went bad. Got a little strong, but still tasted delicious. I've never had any of it go bad in the fridge, either. Not sure how long that I've left it in there. The fridge butter tends to get used more than the room temp stuff. How is your butter going bad? Have you tried freezing half of it? Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 > Help me understand this? I've had raw butter (that I made myself or bought > directly from the farm) at room temp in a water bath type butter cup for > well over a month and it never went bad. Got a little strong, but still > tasted delicious. I've never had any of it go bad in the fridge, either. > Not sure how long that I've left it in there. The fridge butter tends to > get used more than the room temp stuff. > > How is your butter going bad? Have you tried freezing half of it? Ron, Dunno. Maybe my refrigerator needs another defrosting like the last time this subject came up on the list re: coconut cream. I just threw some butter out the other day because it was down right moldy. Maybe some food crumbs got stuck in it? Seemed more comprehensive than that, though. I'll pick up one of those butter bells sometime but gee, got no counter space in the packrat's kitchen. And I still don't know what to put it on anymore. I put a gob on my weekly burger. When I make vegetables/greens, I stir-fry them and add broth so butter doesn't really go there. Well, not in my mind, anyway. On the up side, behind the butter, in the back, I found a jar of year-old duck leg confit. B. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 > When I make vegetables/greens, I stir-fry them and add broth > so butter doesn't really go there. Well, not in my mind, anyway. Well, we'll just have to re-direct your mind. I cook cabbage in some kind of broth until it's nice and soft. Strain and dump about 1/4 cup of butter on the hot mass and eat. Cabbage has become an excuse to eat butter. Do the same with Brussels sprouts, broccoli, carrots or whatever else happens to be in the non-moldy fridge. I'll re-use the broth for another batch or two. Then of course there is the occasional potato and sweet potato. All foods created by God for the sole purpose of getting butter into my NT body, AFAIC. Gotta say, though, that I really do miss taking a piece of warm, homemade white bread and putting a few huge chunks of butter on it. That may well be my favorite flavor. Lots of good childhood memories. That evil gluten/fat combo, you know. Gonna make sure I have some for my last meal in about 60 years. Ron Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 19, 2005 Report Share Posted December 19, 2005 Haha, I just read this message of yours, Suze. Last spring I fought with airport security myself over an apple. I had it in my pocket and I couldn't believe they actually wanted me to put it through the x-ray. I tried to reason with security but they wouldn't budge. Next time I'll pack it in the crotch of my pants. After its radiation treatment, I vowed not to eat the apple while waiting in the gate area but I was so starved that I ate it and also ate some overpriced reheated fast food, even after my gf pointed out that it had probably also been x-rayed since it was beyond the checkpoint. What sin. Tom Suze Fisher wrote: >BTW, I fought with the airport security supervisor about not irradiating my >ghee, but the bastard won! Grrr...so I don't know what it tastes like. No >zapped crap for me ;-) I bet it's great though (when un-irradiated)! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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