Re: Grain storage advice needed

[Guest guest]

Ellis wrote:

> How do you who buy grains in bulk store them to keep them easily

> accessible and bug/mold free?

Canning jars with the rubber gasket and wires for small amounts, 5

gallon plastic buckets with snap on lids for larger amounts.

[Guest guest]

Whatever jar you use, I've been told that taping a bay leaf to the top helps

discourage pests.

Good luck.

[Guest guest]

At 07:56 PM 6/10/05 -0400, you wrote:

>

>Whatever jar you use, I've been told that taping a bay leaf to the top

helps discourage pests.

But it has to be a REAL bay leaf (Laurus Nobilis). What you buy in the

grocery store (termed California bay) is a cheap substitute from the food

producers view - but it's not even the same species, and doesn't do squat

to deter bugs.

Try a health food store to find the real stuff.

I also learned (accidentally) that dried hops works pretty well too.

Since I have a bay tree, I haven't tried that in a while, but it worked

once (bugs went for everything EXCEPT the stuff near the hops).

MFJ

Ideas are funny that way ... you go and let one loose, and suddenly it's

crashing about the place, bashing up against other peoples' heads.

Somebody oughtta control that. Pesky things, ideas.

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>>>> " But it has to be a REAL bay leaf (Laurus Nobilis). What you buy in the

grocery store (termed California bay) is a cheap substitute from the food

producers view - but it's not even the same species, and doesn't do squat

to deter bugs.MFJ>>>>>

Aw shucks ... you can't be disparaging the native California Bay

Laurel (Umbellularia californica) now can you? It is actually much more

potent than the Bay Laurel that grows in the Northeastern US. This noble

tree is able to yearly survive six months drought under burning sun and not

wither. When we use its dried leaves for soups here in Northern California

we have to use about 1/10 the amount...

The Native Americans in this area (Miwok, Wappo, and Pomo) understood its

power and used California Bay Laurel for over 10,000 years to protect their

outdoor larders...

It is so strong that if you break a fresh leaf under your nose and inhale

you can pass out. (I saw this happen to a fellow naturalist who was

demonstrating the glories of CA Bay Laurel in front of a group of visitors

to our nature preserve in Glen Ellen.)

~Robin

[Guest guest]

>>Whatever jar you use, I've been told that taping a bay leaf to the top

>helps discourage pests.

>

>But it has to be a REAL bay leaf (Laurus Nobilis). What you buy in the

>grocery store (termed California bay) is a cheap substitute from the food

>producers view - but it's not even the same species, and doesn't do squat

>to deter bugs.

Bay trees are pretty easy to grow, BTW. I got one

last year. Really gorgeous tree, and the bugs

don't touch it :--)

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

>But it has to be a REAL bay leaf (Laurus Nobilis). What you buy in the

>grocery store (termed California bay) is a cheap substitute from the food

>producers view - but it's not even the same species, and doesn't do squat

>to deter bugs.

>

>Try a health food store to find the real stuff.

>

>I also learned (accidentally) that dried hops works pretty well too.

>Since I have a bay tree, I haven't tried that in a while, but it worked

>once (bugs went for everything EXCEPT the stuff near the hops).

>

>

>

>MFJ

>Ideas are funny that way ... you go and let one loose, and suddenly it's

>crashing about the place, bashing up against other peoples' heads.

>Somebody oughtta control that. Pesky things, ideas.

>

What about eucalyptus? A very available Southern California plant, we

used to put it in the furniture to keep fleas down in HB. Now we make

our own mosquito repellent with citronella, eucalyptus, cedarwood and

some other goodies. Anyhoo, the leaves of eucalyptus may be more potent

to insects and just as edible as bay (as far as oil goes, for I have

read only Indian bay - no idea the species off hand - is eatable,

whereas western varieties are toxic eaten and must be sucked only, hmmmm).

Deanna, with fruit tree maggot type questions coming soon, probably

after the major blackberry harvest in progress, but if I am to get these

guys before maturation, I have to get off my butt now besides the track,

so, , what the hell can I do? What product is least toxic to this

otherwise organic universe I live in but will zap these suckers from

taking all my fruit? Tanks in advance, y'all!

[Guest guest]

On Saturday, June 11, 2005, at 07:03 PM, Heidi Schuppenhauer wrote:

> Bay trees are pretty easy to grow, BTW. I got one

> last year. Really gorgeous tree, and the bugs

> don't touch it :--)

>

>

> Heidi Jean

>

>

>

What zone are they hardy to or do you grow them inside?

Sandy

[Guest guest]

>What zone are they hardy to or do you grow them inside?

>Sandy

I think mine said it was ok to 10 degrees. We'll see if it

survives ... it doesn't get that low often here.

Heidi Jean

[Guest guest]

--- Heidi Schuppenhauer <heidis@...> wrote:

> >What zone are they hardy to or do you grow them inside?

> >Sandy

>

> I think mine said it was ok to 10 degrees. We'll see if it

> survives ... it doesn't get that low often here.

Do you mean 10* F or C?

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[Guest guest]

>> I think mine said it was ok to 10 degrees. We'll see if it

>> survives ... it doesn't get that low often here.

>

>Do you mean 10* F or C?

F.

Heidi Jean