Re: Anyone had a Raven test? Just got back w/test results (IQ test)

[Guest guest]

I think the Weschler's was used on Allie at age 3. They couldn't do one

because of compliance at age 6, and I refused to allow an IQ test on

her recent re-eval. If i ever allow one again, it will be a non-verbal

version, even though Allie is getting increasingly verbal, she still

has a long way to go.

Low scores can help get services, though. I know one woman who told me

to try to get a low IQ score & never let them test her again because MR

is the only way to get services here in TN.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I think the Weschler's was used on Allie at age 3. They couldn't do one

because of compliance at age 6, and I refused to allow an IQ test on

her recent re-eval. If i ever allow one again, it will be a non-verbal

version, even though Allie is getting increasingly verbal, she still

has a long way to go.

Low scores can help get services, though. I know one woman who told me

to try to get a low IQ score & never let them test her again because MR

is the only way to get services here in TN.

Debi

[Guest guest]

I think the Weschler's was used on Allie at age 3. They couldn't do one

because of compliance at age 6, and I refused to allow an IQ test on

her recent re-eval. If i ever allow one again, it will be a non-verbal

version, even though Allie is getting increasingly verbal, she still

has a long way to go.

Low scores can help get services, though. I know one woman who told me

to try to get a low IQ score & never let them test her again because MR

is the only way to get services here in TN.

Debi

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I think the test is called " Raven's Progressive Matrices " or

something like that. My kids (both w/autism) had that test and also

more traditional IQ testing. (I forget the name of the traditional

test, it wasn't Wechsler but something more recent.)

DD: Raven's IQ = 125; traditional testing = 85

DS: Raven's IQ = 120; traditional testing = 59

My son is 3 years younger and his language skills are less developed

than his sister's, which probably accounts for the lower scores. He

identified some items appropriately -- a picture of a crown he

identified as 'king'; a picture of a fire hydrant he called 'water' --

those answers were counted as incorrect even though it was clear he

knew what the objects were. He also correctly answered many of the

traditional test questions (like putting story panels into the proper

sequence), but he did not finish within the time limits, so the

answers were not considered 'correct.'

I could go on and on about problems with standardized testing for our

kids, but I know I am preaching to the choir!

Pat J.

[Guest guest]

Hi,

I think the test is called " Raven's Progressive Matrices " or

something like that. My kids (both w/autism) had that test and also

more traditional IQ testing. (I forget the name of the traditional

test, it wasn't Wechsler but something more recent.)

DD: Raven's IQ = 125; traditional testing = 85

DS: Raven's IQ = 120; traditional testing = 59

My son is 3 years younger and his language skills are less developed

than his sister's, which probably accounts for the lower scores. He

identified some items appropriately -- a picture of a crown he

identified as 'king'; a picture of a fire hydrant he called 'water' --

those answers were counted as incorrect even though it was clear he

knew what the objects were. He also correctly answered many of the

traditional test questions (like putting story panels into the proper

sequence), but he did not finish within the time limits, so the

answers were not considered 'correct.'

I could go on and on about problems with standardized testing for our

kids, but I know I am preaching to the choir!

Pat J.

[Guest guest]

Pat: Haven't had the tests done yet but great info. for when we do!

take care,

Darby's mom

Canada

pjordan831 wrote:

Hi,

I think the test is called " Raven's Progressive Matrices " or

something like that. My kids (both w/autism) had that test and also

more traditional IQ testing. (I forget the name of the traditional

test, it wasn't Wechsler but something more recent.)

DD: Raven's IQ = 125; traditional testing = 85

DS: Raven's IQ = 120; traditional testing = 59

My son is 3 years younger and his language skills are less developed

than his sister's, which probably accounts for the lower scores. He

identified some items appropriately -- a picture of a crown he

identified as 'king'; a picture of a fire hydrant he called 'water' --

those answers were counted as incorrect even though it was clear he

knew what the objects were. He also correctly answered many of the

traditional test questions (like putting story panels into the proper

sequence), but he did not finish within the time limits, so the

answers were not considered 'correct.'

I could go on and on about problems with standardized testing for our

kids, but I know I am preaching to the choir!

Pat J.

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[Guest guest]

Pat: Haven't had the tests done yet but great info. for when we do!

take care,

Darby's mom

Canada

pjordan831 wrote:

Hi,

I think the test is called " Raven's Progressive Matrices " or

something like that. My kids (both w/autism) had that test and also

more traditional IQ testing. (I forget the name of the traditional

test, it wasn't Wechsler but something more recent.)

DD: Raven's IQ = 125; traditional testing = 85

DS: Raven's IQ = 120; traditional testing = 59

My son is 3 years younger and his language skills are less developed

than his sister's, which probably accounts for the lower scores. He

identified some items appropriately -- a picture of a crown he

identified as 'king'; a picture of a fire hydrant he called 'water' --

those answers were counted as incorrect even though it was clear he

knew what the objects were. He also correctly answered many of the

traditional test questions (like putting story panels into the proper

sequence), but he did not finish within the time limits, so the

answers were not considered 'correct.'

I could go on and on about problems with standardized testing for our

kids, but I know I am preaching to the choir!

Pat J.

---------------------------------

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[Guest guest]

Pat: Haven't had the tests done yet but great info. for when we do!

take care,

Darby's mom

Canada

pjordan831 wrote:

Hi,

I think the test is called " Raven's Progressive Matrices " or

something like that. My kids (both w/autism) had that test and also

more traditional IQ testing. (I forget the name of the traditional

test, it wasn't Wechsler but something more recent.)

DD: Raven's IQ = 125; traditional testing = 85

DS: Raven's IQ = 120; traditional testing = 59

My son is 3 years younger and his language skills are less developed

than his sister's, which probably accounts for the lower scores. He

identified some items appropriately -- a picture of a crown he

identified as 'king'; a picture of a fire hydrant he called 'water' --

those answers were counted as incorrect even though it was clear he

knew what the objects were. He also correctly answered many of the

traditional test questions (like putting story panels into the proper

sequence), but he did not finish within the time limits, so the

answers were not considered 'correct.'

I could go on and on about problems with standardized testing for our

kids, but I know I am preaching to the choir!

Pat J.

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[Guest guest]

thanks for the info, it really does seem that there's a significant

difference between the two test

I think I'm going to ask at our next appointment if they administer

the Raven at all.

>

> Hi,

>

> I think the test is called " Raven's Progressive Matrices " or

> something like that. My kids (both w/autism) had that test and also

> more traditional IQ testing. (I forget the name of the traditional

> test, it wasn't Wechsler but something more recent.)

>

> DD: Raven's IQ = 125; traditional testing = 85

> DS: Raven's IQ = 120; traditional testing = 59

>

> My son is 3 years younger and his language skills are less

developed

> than his sister's, which probably accounts for the lower scores. He

> identified some items appropriately -- a picture of a crown he

> identified as 'king'; a picture of a fire hydrant he

called 'water' --

> those answers were counted as incorrect even though it was clear he

> knew what the objects were. He also correctly answered many of the

> traditional test questions (like putting story panels into the

proper

> sequence), but he did not finish within the time limits, so the

> answers were not considered 'correct.'

>

> I could go on and on about problems with standardized testing for

our

> kids, but I know I am preaching to the choir!

>

> Pat J.

>