enzymes - Ellen

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>Well, when I originally asked the question I meant digestive enzymes.

> Even though i have no overt digestive problems I have been thinking

>that because of my gluten intolerance taking something like the

>Houston enzymes might help prevent other IgG food intolerances from

>developing. My stomach seems to empty quickly so I thought that a

>gelatin capsule would be best as you have mentioned here several

times

>recently that they dissolve more rapidly than the vegetable caps.

That is what DeFelice wrote in her book on enzymes and autism.

She also wrote that food stays in the upper stomach chamber for about

60-90 mins. The idea of using a gelatin capsule is so that it can be

dissolved in the upper stomach chamber and the enzymes can start

their work there. Having said that, I'm afraid I don't have any

specific product to recommend. I'm still not completely situated in

regards to the enzymes I want to take. I'm currectly taking Bio-gest,

(HCl, pancreatin, etc) but it's in a cellulose capsule AND the HCl

and pepsin doses are too low. When I use up my current bottle I'm

going to try something with more HCl and pepsin. Oh, I have also used

Source Naturals HCl and pepsin, which is in tablet form. I think you

should seriously consider using a good HCl and pepsin product along

with the digestive enzymes. If your gut's messed up from gluten,

dysbiosis or whatever, then the extra HCl and pepsin should be very

helpful.

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>But since the original question I have seen you post on the GFCf list

>about proteolytic enzymes for Candida and you have me curious. i

have

>not heard of them used this way before. So I will try to find some

>info about this, but would apprecciate anything you can say.

recommends using a product that has both cellulases and

proteases. I think she suggests one of the Enzymedica products with

cellulases as well as Peptizyde for the powerful proteases. IIRC,

that's because yeast have a celloluse and proteinaceous coating so

these enzymes break down the coating allowing the antifungals to get

into the cells and do their thing. I've used " Candex " before which is

just cellulase. But it makes sense to me to use proteases as well, as

they can work on all kinds of toxins and debris as well as yeast.

This is basically the point of taking proteolytic enzymes. As I

cautioned before though, it's best to start out with a small dose as

not everyone handles proteolytic proteases well.

If you go to 's website - www.enzymestuff.com - she's got

specific product recommendations for this. I'm sure peptizyde is one,

but I don't recall the specific Enzymedica one, or even if I'm

remembering correctly that it WAS an enzymedica product with the

cellulasees.

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>So really the short answer is both, although the one for Candida

>wouldn't matter that much if it dissolved quickly or not, as I

believe

>that proteolytic enymes are taken separately from food.

Correct. Another thing you can do if you can't find good enzyme

products in gelatin capsules, is to empty the capsule contents in

water and drink it. This may not be such a good idea with *HCl*

though, but I think I read of people doing this on the autism lists

nonetheless. Or maybe you can take something acidic with the plant-

based capsules like lemon water, kimchi, etc. I eat kimchi with every

meal and usually swig down some fairly acidic EM before each meal,

for instance.

BTW, in an earlier email you said you have Houston enzymes. Which

one? If it's peptizyde I wanted to mention that 's data suggest

that in non-ASD gluten sensitive folks, peptizyde tends to make their

GS symptoms *worse*. It seems to make them MORE reactive to gluten

rather than less. This doesn't go for everyone, but in the reports

she collected from Celiacs using peptizyde, the trend was that their

reactions to gluten became worse on the enzymes. Personally, I didn't

notice any difference whatsoever. However, I was taking peptizyde for

about a year with any gluten ingestion *before* I took the enterolab

test. As you may have seen, my result was negative for antigliadin

antibodies but positive for antitissue transglutaminase antibodies,

which may mean that I'm gluten sensitve. So, it's possible that

peptizyde *caused* my ATTG levels to be higher than they would

normally be. But this is all speculation. The bottom line is that you

should be careful about using Peptizyde if you're gluten sensitive in

an non-ASD way.

Having said that, I don't believe it would be a problem for Celiacs

to use peptizyde *between* meals as a proteolytic enzyme. I think I

will ask her opinion on that though. I'll let you know.

Suze