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[Guest guest]

Dear Rhonda,

I think OSU Hospital is the right choice. (The Cinci Hospital can't compare in

regards to reputation) OSU has a wonderful reputation & a teaching hospital

has two advantages. 1. Lots of different folks involved ie. adding thier

advice, experitise. 2. They are truely up on the latest and greatest

treatments...I'm sure they will know the appropriate treatment.

Keep up Posted

> > >

> > > Thanks, I'm beginning to accept this! Spin cycle - great word picture

there.

> > >

> > > Thanks to all good advice and support, my head cleared up and I realized

that driving him down 1 1/2 hours to Cincy for treatment that I can get right

here in Columbus doesn't make sense. I thought if I took him to Cincy they would

make sure he got into the teen psych unit that is housed in the Lindner Center -

which is an OCD treatment center for adults and outpatient children. Then MAYBE

he would get some treatment time with therapists from the Center itself, rather

than just the psych staff in the unit.

> > >

> > > Well, turns out there's no guarantee he will get into the psych unit

connected to Lindner. If he doesn't, he will go to any of their teen psych units

and they will just do their regular group therapy, talk therapy, blah blah.

Friend said her son was in there a couple days and they had a couple suicide

attempts, kids on feeding tubes, stuff that it's okay for a kid to be exposed to

but maybe not what you're looking for in treatment.

> > >

> > > Maybe he could get stabilized, cleaned up and on meds in that situation.

But there's no help for OCD there. What's more, when I spoke to ER social worker

about his concern about clothes, she said he was just making up excuses and if

that were satisfied, he'd make up another excuse. What really worries me is that

this morning another of their social workers called and asked when I was getting

him down there, asked for my address, said they were very concerned. I asked if

they were going to have him removed from my home. She said she was considering

calling children's services. Yeesh. I said, hey, he said he would come on

Friday. If he doesn't , I'M calling children's services. Plus, I don't even

really want to come down there if you can't guarantee Lindner - I might as well

take him to Columbus Children's. She said okay, and I said I would call her on

Friday. Haven't seen CPS so far today. :-p

> > >

> > > Then I put a call in to a therapist in the Cols Children's system asking

her for help and guidance in getting into the Cols system. She offered help

before but we were stuck on Lindner at that point. Haven't heard back from her

but I think she will call; she offered to email ER for us before & help us walk

through.

> > >

> > > Question -- when should I tell son plans have changed? I've actually

shown him pix of Cincy ER and Lindner Center and told him how nice it was. . ..

oops.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Rhonda

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[Guest guest]

Dear Rhonda,

I think OSU Hospital is the right choice. (The Cinci Hospital can't compare in

regards to reputation) OSU has a wonderful reputation & a teaching hospital

has two advantages. 1. Lots of different folks involved ie. adding thier

advice, experitise. 2. They are truely up on the latest and greatest

treatments...I'm sure they will know the appropriate treatment.

Keep up Posted

> > >

> > > Thanks, I'm beginning to accept this! Spin cycle - great word picture

there.

> > >

> > > Thanks to all good advice and support, my head cleared up and I realized

that driving him down 1 1/2 hours to Cincy for treatment that I can get right

here in Columbus doesn't make sense. I thought if I took him to Cincy they would

make sure he got into the teen psych unit that is housed in the Lindner Center -

which is an OCD treatment center for adults and outpatient children. Then MAYBE

he would get some treatment time with therapists from the Center itself, rather

than just the psych staff in the unit.

> > >

> > > Well, turns out there's no guarantee he will get into the psych unit

connected to Lindner. If he doesn't, he will go to any of their teen psych units

and they will just do their regular group therapy, talk therapy, blah blah.

Friend said her son was in there a couple days and they had a couple suicide

attempts, kids on feeding tubes, stuff that it's okay for a kid to be exposed to

but maybe not what you're looking for in treatment.

> > >

> > > Maybe he could get stabilized, cleaned up and on meds in that situation.

But there's no help for OCD there. What's more, when I spoke to ER social worker

about his concern about clothes, she said he was just making up excuses and if

that were satisfied, he'd make up another excuse. What really worries me is that

this morning another of their social workers called and asked when I was getting

him down there, asked for my address, said they were very concerned. I asked if

they were going to have him removed from my home. She said she was considering

calling children's services. Yeesh. I said, hey, he said he would come on

Friday. If he doesn't , I'M calling children's services. Plus, I don't even

really want to come down there if you can't guarantee Lindner - I might as well

take him to Columbus Children's. She said okay, and I said I would call her on

Friday. Haven't seen CPS so far today. :-p

> > >

> > > Then I put a call in to a therapist in the Cols Children's system asking

her for help and guidance in getting into the Cols system. She offered help

before but we were stuck on Lindner at that point. Haven't heard back from her

but I think she will call; she offered to email ER for us before & help us walk

through.

> > >

> > > Question -- when should I tell son plans have changed? I've actually

shown him pix of Cincy ER and Lindner Center and told him how nice it was. . ..

oops.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Rhonda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

Dear Rhonda,

I think OSU Hospital is the right choice. (The Cinci Hospital can't compare in

regards to reputation) OSU has a wonderful reputation & a teaching hospital

has two advantages. 1. Lots of different folks involved ie. adding thier

advice, experitise. 2. They are truely up on the latest and greatest

treatments...I'm sure they will know the appropriate treatment.

Keep up Posted

> > >

> > > Thanks, I'm beginning to accept this! Spin cycle - great word picture

there.

> > >

> > > Thanks to all good advice and support, my head cleared up and I realized

that driving him down 1 1/2 hours to Cincy for treatment that I can get right

here in Columbus doesn't make sense. I thought if I took him to Cincy they would

make sure he got into the teen psych unit that is housed in the Lindner Center -

which is an OCD treatment center for adults and outpatient children. Then MAYBE

he would get some treatment time with therapists from the Center itself, rather

than just the psych staff in the unit.

> > >

> > > Well, turns out there's no guarantee he will get into the psych unit

connected to Lindner. If he doesn't, he will go to any of their teen psych units

and they will just do their regular group therapy, talk therapy, blah blah.

Friend said her son was in there a couple days and they had a couple suicide

attempts, kids on feeding tubes, stuff that it's okay for a kid to be exposed to

but maybe not what you're looking for in treatment.

> > >

> > > Maybe he could get stabilized, cleaned up and on meds in that situation.

But there's no help for OCD there. What's more, when I spoke to ER social worker

about his concern about clothes, she said he was just making up excuses and if

that were satisfied, he'd make up another excuse. What really worries me is that

this morning another of their social workers called and asked when I was getting

him down there, asked for my address, said they were very concerned. I asked if

they were going to have him removed from my home. She said she was considering

calling children's services. Yeesh. I said, hey, he said he would come on

Friday. If he doesn't , I'M calling children's services. Plus, I don't even

really want to come down there if you can't guarantee Lindner - I might as well

take him to Columbus Children's. She said okay, and I said I would call her on

Friday. Haven't seen CPS so far today. :-p

> > >

> > > Then I put a call in to a therapist in the Cols Children's system asking

her for help and guidance in getting into the Cols system. She offered help

before but we were stuck on Lindner at that point. Haven't heard back from her

but I think she will call; she offered to email ER for us before & help us walk

through.

> > >

> > > Question -- when should I tell son plans have changed? I've actually

shown him pix of Cincy ER and Lindner Center and told him how nice it was. . ..

oops.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Rhonda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

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[Guest guest]

" Anyway, I'm so proud of my son, so incredibly proud. It's this group here who

knows that the walk he made tonight out to the car was a bigger accomplishment

than any trophy or award that gets the applause of the crowds. "

You BOTH did it Rhonda!!! Such an incredibly hard thing to get your OCD child

to the hospital and to treatment. YES, WE GET IT, and know all the feelings

that go with it, and share in your pride and accomplishment. None of us want

anything less than the best treatment for our kids. So, so happy for you!!

Keep us posted!

Hugs,

Barb

>

> 1 am Saturday morning - He's in the ER, changed, showered, lying in bed

getting pampered by the nurses and looking delighted.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

>

>

> Thanks so much ladies, I could not have done it without you. You are the best.

And thanks from my family as well.

> Rhonda

>

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[Guest guest]

Wow Rhonda, YAY YAY YAY!!!! I'm so proud of him, and he got ready on his own,

voluntarily went, how brave!

Happy he seems fine with it too after all the intake stuff, and hope he stays

" delighted. "

Didn't quite like that " psychiatrist " comment made. Psychiatrists are generally

seen for diagnosis and medication, and they just monitor medication

effectiveness, etc. THERAPY is done by others, and often parents try therapy

first without meds and it's not like it's an overnight success when you start

therapy.... OK, just saying didn't agree/like that comment, not like you hadn't

sought treatment for him....

But - YAY! so glad he's there now!

>

> 1 am Saturday morning - He's in the ER, changed, showered, lying in bed

getting pampered by the nurses and looking delighted.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

>

> He slept til 3 pm, got up & was in bathroom 3 hours. Came out with his pants

changed! His fingernails cut! His hair slicked down! He was ready to go. Who can

explain OCD? I can't. I was kinda worried he didn't look bonafide emergency

anymore, but his hoodie still reeked, so we were okay on that count. He walked

outside for the first time in 4 months, looked at the baby ducks, got in the

car!

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks so much, Chris. That comment bothered me for same reason - that's why I

repeated. It looks like he will go to OSU adolescent unit - I expect same

experience as Barb's - stabilize but no ERP - I think that would be okay, if he

could just get stabilized to do outpatient with good ERP therapist.

Rhondas

Re: little more advice = Rhonda Keep Us Posted

Wow Rhonda, YAY YAY YAY!!!! I'm so proud of him, and he got ready on his own,

voluntarily went, how brave!

Happy he seems fine with it too after all the intake stuff, and hope he stays

" delighted. "

Didn't quite like that " psychiatrist " comment made. Psychiatrists are

generally seen for diagnosis and medication, and they just monitor medication

effectiveness, etc. THERAPY is done by others, and often parents try therapy

first without meds and it's not like it's an overnight success when you start

therapy.... OK, just saying didn't agree/like that comment, not like you hadn't

sought treatment for him....

But - YAY! so glad he's there now!

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[Guest guest]

This is soooooo thrilling to read!! I am so happy that your son was able to do

this, and he will later be very grateful to you for making this happen for him.

You know what? If nothing else comes from this then that he got up the guts to

leave his comfort zone and took steps toward normalcy, that's an enormous thing.

I hope you feel some relief now and can have some more restful days yourself.

I'll be holding good thoughts that your son's steps out of your home were just

the first of many steps toward living the life he deserves.

Re: Re: little more advice = Rhonda Keep Us Posted

1 am Saturday morning - He's in the ER, changed, showered, lying in bed getting

pampered by the nurses and looking delighted.

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY!

He slept til 3 pm, got up & was in bathroom 3 hours. Came out with his pants

changed! His fingernails cut! His hair slicked down! He was ready to go. Who can

explain OCD? I can't. I was kinda worried he didn't look bonafide emergency

anymore, but his hoodie still reeked, so we were okay on that count. He walked

outside for the first time in 4 months, looked at the baby ducks, got in the

car!

Thanks for confirmation of OSU . At the last minute, I called their ER to

see about wait. They were on a " psych serge " with so many child psych patients

they were putting them in beds in the ER halls, with curtains up around as

temporary rooms. I did not think my son would do well in that environment, other

than that the whole place would clear out if he came near, which might have

worked, or might not have. OSU told me to go to any ER, which would do the same

intake process and could then refer him to any teen psych unit in the state.

Okay. I picked the newest, finest hospital in the city. Called ahead, they knew

we were coming. We waited about 5 min in the waiting room. Back to station one,

he let them do BP, lots of questions. Station two, this nurse meant business,

gave him a gown, he put it on! Then she told him to take a shower; he did. I

didn't even recognize him when he came out. Praise God. The only compulsions I

saw were some handwashing and some blowi ng dirt away. I'm not sure if more will

come back or not. The OCD is still there, for sure. I'm not really sure what the

next step will be. But at least for tonight he's clean.

Of course I got to see how the whole group responded to a person with severe

OCD. The desk person was great, did not blink. But I saw the whole nurses'

station watching as we were escorted to a room. I heard the NEXT desk person

calling for the social worker on the phone, saying, 'Yeah, it's someone with

OCD, he's had some problems cleaning. " The nurse who made him do the shower said

to him afterward, " Oh, doesn't that feel so much better? " Like " you naughty boy,

why haven't you been showering?? Look how easy it is! " I felt like a total crumb

a number of times, since it was my house he was escaping from. But these are all

totally minor, they did such an incredible job with him. The only thing that

really bothered me maybe a little was when the social worker was doing the

assessment for further treatment. She asked why he hadn't been seen by a

psychiatrist. I said he was being treated by an LISW specializing in OCD

therapy, who had special training. Sh e said, 'ANY PSYCHIATRIST CAN TREAT OCD.

IT'S JUST ANOTHER SPECTRUM DISORDER LIKE BIPOLAR OR SCHIZOPHRENIA. " But hey, she

referred him on for further treatment! I'm not complaining!

Anyway, I'm so proud of my son, so incredibly proud. It's this group here who

knows that the walk he made tonight out to the car was a bigger accomplishment

than any trophy or award that gets the applause of the crowds.

Thanks so much ladies, I could not have done it without you. You are the best.

And thanks from my family as well.

Rhonda

Re: little more advice = Rhonda Keep Us Posted

Dear Rhonda,

I think OSU Hospital is the right choice. (The Cinci Hospital can't compare in

regards to reputation) OSU has a wonderful reputation & a teaching hospital has

two advantages. 1. Lots of different folks involved ie. adding thier advice,

experitise. 2. They are truely up on the latest and greatest treatments...I'm

sure they will know the appropriate treatment.

Keep up Posted

> > >

> > > Thanks, I'm beginning to accept this! Spin cycle - great word picture

there.

> > >

> > > Thanks to all good advice and support, my head cleared up and I realized

that driving him down 1 1/2 hours to Cincy for treatment that I can get right

here in Columbus doesn't make sense. I thought if I took him to Cincy they would

make sure he got into the teen psych unit that is housed in the Lindner Center -

which is an OCD treatment center for adults and outpatient children. Then MAYBE

he would get some treatment time with therapists from the Center itself, rather

than just the psych staff in the unit.

> > >

> > > Well, turns out there's no guarantee he will get into the psych unit

connected to Lindner. If he doesn't, he will go to any of their teen psych units

and they will just do their regular group therapy, talk therapy, blah blah.

Friend said her son was in there a couple days and they had a couple suicide

attempts, kids on feeding tubes, stuff that it's okay for a kid to be exposed to

but maybe not what you're looking for in treatment.

> > >

> > > Maybe he could get stabilized, cleaned up and on meds in that situation.

But there's no help for OCD there. What's more, when I spoke to ER social worker

about his concern about clothes, she said he was just making up excuses and if

that were satisfied, he'd make up another excuse. What really worries me is that

this morning another of their social workers called and asked when I was getting

him down there, asked for my address, said they were very concerned. I asked if

they were going to have him removed from my home. She said she was considering

calling children's services. Yeesh. I said, hey, he said he would come on

Friday. If he doesn't , I'M calling children's services. Plus, I don't even

really want to come down there if you can't guarantee Lindner - I might as well

take him to Columbus Children's. She said okay, and I said I would call her on

Friday. Haven't seen CPS so far today. :-p

> > >

> > > Then I put a call in to a therapist in the Cols Children's system asking

her for help and guidance in getting into the Cols system. She offered help

before but we were stuck on Lindner at that point. Haven't heard back from her

but I think she will call; she offered to email ER for us before & help us walk

through.

> > >

> > > Question -- when should I tell son plans have changed? I've actually

shown him pix of Cincy ER and Lindner Center and told him how nice it was. . ..

oops.

> > >

> > > thanks

> > > Rhonda

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

[Guest guest]

What great news! The fact that he was able to do so many things - shower, etc

is a big deal! I bet he responds well & swiftly to the meds & will be " ready &

able " to start well administered CBT...I'd say we can see the light at the end

of the tunnel!

>

> Thanks so much, Chris. That comment bothered me for same reason - that's why I

repeated. It looks like he will go to OSU adolescent unit - I expect same

experience as Barb's - stabilize but no ERP - I think that would be okay, if he

could just get stabilized to do outpatient with good ERP therapist.

> Rhondas

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>

> Re: little more advice = Rhonda Keep Us Posted

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> Wow Rhonda, YAY YAY YAY!!!! I'm so proud of him, and he got ready on his

own, voluntarily went, how brave!

>

> Happy he seems fine with it too after all the intake stuff, and hope he

stays " delighted. "

>

> Didn't quite like that " psychiatrist " comment made. Psychiatrists are

generally seen for diagnosis and medication, and they just monitor medication

effectiveness, etc. THERAPY is done by others, and often parents try therapy

first without meds and it's not like it's an overnight success when you start

therapy.... OK, just saying didn't agree/like that comment, not like you hadn't

sought treatment for him....

>

> But - YAY! so glad he's there now!

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I am so happy to hear the great news as well!! I can so relate to what you just

went through and are still going through. Here's hoping that the worst is behind

both of us, and our sons, and things will continue on an upward trend. Of course

we'll have our bumps in the road and setbacks here and there, but as long as we

(and our sons) are able to stay focused on the horizon, I think we will all be

eventually breathing a little easier.

> What great news! The fact that he was able to do so many things - shower, etc

is a big deal! I bet he responds well & swiftly to the meds & will be " ready &

able " to start well administered CBT...I'd say we can see the light at the end

of the tunnel!

>

>

>

> >

>

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[Guest guest]

Rhonda,

I am so happy to hear the great news as well!! I can so relate to what you just

went through and are still going through. Here's hoping that the worst is behind

both of us, and our sons, and things will continue on an upward trend. Of course

we'll have our bumps in the road and setbacks here and there, but as long as we

(and our sons) are able to stay focused on the horizon, I think we will all be

eventually breathing a little easier.

> What great news! The fact that he was able to do so many things - shower, etc

is a big deal! I bet he responds well & swiftly to the meds & will be " ready &

able " to start well administered CBT...I'd say we can see the light at the end

of the tunnel!

>

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