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I too am a slow thinker, also born under Taurus. I find myself quite often

going over something long after.

I can totally undertand where is coming from for not wishing to defend

her position. The emphasis here is on 'defend' instead of discuss. I think I

made uncomfortable with the way that I was asking the questions. They

were posed as an attack. Of course I did not mean them to be, but I reread my

post and could see how it could be taken the wrong way.

I myself have been annoyed at others continually questioning me and making

unfair assumptions about my own low-carb choices. All of a sudden I stopped

voraciously eating junk food and refused to partake in morning tea items. I was

not the only one not eating, mind you, but given my previous attitude to eat

everything in sight, this was commented on. I had to explain the change.

Luckily I had an explanation that kept things under control because I had been

to a specialist who had sorted me out. I lost a fair amount of weight. Almost

every day there was someone checking what I was eating during the day making

some comment on the supposed need for me to avoid 'good' food. They thought I

had an eating disorder. Fortunately I had the support of a few close

colleagues.

I can only begin to imagine what it would be like if I decided to follow the

dietary choices that has made which to my mind are even further from

mainstream (no disrespect intended, ). Honest and interested questions

are one thing, but hard lined interrogation is another.

's choice to not discuss this could also be because this list is not the

forum for a detailed examination on Aajonus Vonderplanitz.

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< But by answering offline to those who want to follow the diet, aren't you

defending a position anyway?

No. I am helping people who sincerely want help.

<although I'm certain that whenever anyone talks, they want sort of to

convince.

Clearly this is true for you.

<Even if I don't want to follow Aajonus' regimen, I would like to have some

questions answered, why not?

You are free to ask your questions, I am free to decline to answer.

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> ,

>

> < But by answering offline to those who want to follow the diet,

aren't you

> defending a position anyway?

>

> No. I am helping people who sincerely want help.

** But me too, I sincerely wanted to make questions.

>

> <although I'm certain that whenever anyone talks, they want sort of

to

> convince.

>

> Clearly this is true for you.

** Yes, and I think that when people remain silent, they also want to

convey something, though in that case it my be a lot more difficult

to know what.

>

> <Even if I don't want to follow Aajonus' regimen, I would like to

have some

> questions answered, why not?

>

> You are free to ask your questions, I am free to decline to answer.

>

>

** I would rather say it is your right. And when you decline to

answer, you are already giving an answer. No, I won't risk to ask you

any questions. Be cool.

Thank you for this.

José

> http://www.taichi4seniors.com

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> I myself have been annoyed at others continually questioning me and

making unfair assumptions about my own low-carb choices. All of a

sudden I stopped voraciously eating junk food and refused to partake

in morning tea items. I was not the only one not eating, mind you,

but given my previous attitude to eat everything in sight, this was

commented on. I had to explain the change. Luckily I had an

explanation that kept things under control because I had been to a

specialist who had sorted me out. I lost a fair amount of weight.

Almost every day there was someone checking what I was eating during

the day making some comment on the supposed need for me to

avoid 'good' food. They thought I had an eating disorder.

Fortunately I had the support of a few close colleagues.

>

, i myself am baffled by the way people seem to poke their noses

into clearly what is none of their business. i think that explains

why i have become a semi-hermit.

i have British friends who are private, they do not ply people with

curious questions as we americans are wont to do, and they take

offense when people start peppering them with curious questions.

we could learn something from the british...their manners, privacy,

and respect for the privacy of others.

sorry you had to go thru that, wendy. what a pain.

laura in nj

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> ,

>

> < But by answering offline to those who want to follow the diet,

aren't you

> defending a position anyway?

>

> No. I am helping people who sincerely want help.

>

** But me too, I sincerely wanted to make questions. I am not a

fool.

> <although I'm certain that whenever anyone talks, they want sort of

to

> convince.

>

> Clearly this is true for you.

** Yes, and more, if you care: when people remain silent, they also

want to convey something, though in that case it may be a lot more

difficult to know what precisely.

>

> <Even if I don't want to follow Aajonus' regimen, I would like to

have some

> questions answered, why not?

>

> You are free to ask your questions, I am free to decline to answer.

>

>

** I would rather say it is your right. But when you decline to

answer, you are already giving an answer, aren't you? No, I won't

risk making you any questions. Be cool.

Thank you for this.

José

> http://www.taichi4seniors.com

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> ,

>

> < But by answering offline to those who want to follow the diet,

aren't you

> defending a position anyway?

>

> No. I am helping people who sincerely want help.

>

> <although I'm certain that whenever anyone talks, they want sort of

to

> convince.

>

> Clearly this is true for you.

>

> <Even if I don't want to follow Aajonus' regimen, I would like to

have some

> questions answered, why not?

>

> You are free to ask your questions, I am free to decline to answer.

>

>

> http://www.taichi4seniors.com

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> ,

>

> < But by answering offline to those who want to follow the diet,

aren't you

> defending a position anyway?

>

> No. I am helping people who sincerely want help.

>

** But me too, I sincerely wanted to make questions. I am not a

fool.

> <although I'm certain that whenever anyone talks, they want sort of

to

> convince.

>

> Clearly this is true for you.

** Yes, and more, if you care to know: I think that when people

remain silent, they also want to convey something, though in that

case it may be a lot more difficult for anyone else to know what

precisely.

>

> <Even if I don't want to follow Aajonus' regimen, I would like to

have some

> questions answered, why not?

>

> You are free to ask your questions, I am free to decline to answer.

>

>

** I would rather say it is your right. But when you decline to

answer, you are already giving an answer, aren't you? No, I won't

trouble you, I won't risk making you any questions either. Be in

peace.

Thank you for this.

José

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> ,

>

> < But by answering offline to those who want to follow the diet,

aren't you

> defending a position anyway?

>

> No. I am helping people who sincerely want help.

>

** But me too, I sincerely wanted to make questions. I am not a

fool.

> <although I'm certain that whenever anyone talks, they want sort of

to

> convince.

>

> Clearly this is true for you.

** Yes, and more, if you care to know: I think that when people

remain silent, they also want to convey something, though in that

case it may be a lot more difficult to know what precisely.

>

> <Even if I don't want to follow Aajonus' regimen, I would like to

have some

> questions answered, why not?

>

> You are free to ask your questions, I am free to decline to answer.

>

>

** I would rather say it is your right. But you are old enough to

know that everything has its price, even freedom, if you prefer to

think in these terms. Anyway, strange enough, when you decline to

answer, you are already giving an answer, aren't you? No, I won't

trouble you, I won't risk making you any questions either. Be in

peace.

Thank you for this.

José

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> >

> > I myself have been annoyed at others continually questioning me

and

> making unfair assumptions about my own low-carb choices. All of a

> sudden I stopped voraciously eating junk food and refused to

partake

> in morning tea items. I was not the only one not eating, mind you,

> but given my previous attitude to eat everything in sight, this was

> commented on. I had to explain the change. Luckily I had an

> explanation that kept things under control because I had been to a

> specialist who had sorted me out. I lost a fair amount of weight.

> Almost every day there was someone checking what I was eating

during

> the day making some comment on the supposed need for me to

> avoid 'good' food. They thought I had an eating disorder.

> Fortunately I had the support of a few close colleagues.

> >

>

> , i myself am baffled by the way people seem to poke their

noses

> into clearly what is none of their business. i think that explains

> why i have become a semi-hermit.

>

> i have British friends who are private, they do not ply people with

> curious questions as we americans are wont to do, and they take

> offense when people start peppering them with curious questions.

>

> we could learn something from the british...their manners, privacy,

> and respect for the privacy of others.

>

> sorry you had to go thru that, wendy. what a pain.

>

> laura in nj

Hi :

I have known many British people in all my life. I started to learn

English with them at the age of 7 or 8, and since then I have never

lost contact with them for long periods. Do I believe in stereotypes?

Yes, partly they seem to be true, partly not.

I think I know what you are talking about here: it is the famous

English (or should I say British?) way of understatement. They are

never very emphatic. Actually, you may never know what they think

about you or anything else for that matter. Maybe that is politeness,

but it doesn't mean that they are less judgemental than the rest of

the world.

I for one prefer curious people, not the nosy ones, of course. Not

asking questions, refraining from giving your opinion lest it may

hurt someone else, talking as little as possible, being laconic,

etc... these are, frankly speaking, only strategies. In some cases,

they may lead to detachment, indifference or apathy.

I prefer people who interact more, while being able to respect the

limits. Not exactly the British stereotype with its formal undertones

and maybe gossiping under the counter.

Well, a question of tastes, maybe.

Regards,

José

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Hi :

>

> I have known many British people in all my life. I started to learn

> English with them at the age of 7 or 8, and since then I have never

> lost contact with them for long periods. Do I believe in

stereotypes?

> Yes, partly they seem to be true, partly not.

>

> I think I know what you are talking about here: it is the famous

> English (or should I say British?) way of understatement. They are

> never very emphatic. Actually, you may never know what they think

> about you or anything else for that matter.

, you hit the nail on the head with that one!! although i

do hate to generalize. but they seem to have a gift of being

diplomatic, and always saying the right thing. which, in my

understanding, is manners. something i think we sadly lack here!

Maybe that is politeness,

> but it doesn't mean that they are less judgemental than the rest of

> the world.

that's right, !!

>

laura in nj

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