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Hi, Marie!

Did you ever get a second opinion about this? Just curious.

[ ] tooth decay

Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining teeth

started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything in

sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

With Thanks

Marie

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> Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

> metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

> Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining teeth

> started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

> quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

> His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything in

> sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

>

> With Thanks

>

> Marie

>

Im going out on a limb here but yes it is possibly the metals could be

interfering with the way his body uses calcium and he isnt getting

enough calcium.

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> > Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

> > metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

> > Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining

teeth

> > started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

> > quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

> > His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything in

> > sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

> >

> > With Thanks

> >

> > Marie

> >

>

> Im going out on a limb here but yes it is possibly the metals could

be

> interfering with the way his body uses calcium and he isnt getting

> enough calcium.

>

>

Hi ,

Thanks, that's what we've been thinking ever since we found out about

the whole heavy metal thing. It must be it because all he will drink

is rice milk and that has as more calcium than regular cows milk. He

drinks about 2 litres of the stuff every day so it couldn't be that

he's not getting any calcium it must just be he's not absorbing it

properly. I've heard that sometimes the body mistakes lead for

calcium could this be it.

We are still waiting for the results of his hair test to come back

and we've only just found a doctor who knows anything about heavy

metal poisoning. We live in Australia, and so far I've had contact

with 2 other people who are chelating their children here who've been

absolutely amazing in helping me with local information.

With Thanks

Marie

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fwiw, my twins have bad tooth decay also in their front top four teeth

the dentist, of course, wanted us to remove them... general anesthesia in a

local hospital.... i laughed myself out of his office!

Sue

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> > Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

> > metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

> > Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining

teeth

> > started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

> > quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

> > His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything in

> > sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

> >

> > With Thanks

> >

> > Marie

> >

>

> Im going out on a limb here but yes it is possibly the metals could

be

> interfering with the way his body uses calcium and he isnt getting

> enough calcium.

>

>

Hi ,

Thanks, that's what we've been thinking ever since we found out about

the whole heavy metal thing. It must be it because all he will drink

is rice milk and that has as more calcium than regular cows milk. He

drinks about 2 litres of the stuff every day so it couldn't be that

he's not getting any calcium it must just be he's not absorbing it

properly. I've heard that sometimes the body mistakes lead for

calcium could this be it.

We are still waiting for the results of his hair test to come back

and we've only just found a doctor who knows anything about heavy

metal poisoning. We live in Australia, and so far I've had contact

with 2 other people who are chelating their children here who've been

absolutely amazing in helping me with local information.

With Thanks

Marie

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> Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

> metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

> Within a week of having his teeth removed, two of his remaining

> teeth started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop

> too quickly <snip>

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HAS ANYONE LOOKED FOR 'LEAD LINES'? Look at the child's gumline

to see if there is a dark line.

(See post #34195 for longer article. Excerpts below are taken from

that post . . . )

*****************

" [L]ead is chemically very similar to calcium, [and] it is handled by

the body AS IF IT WERE CALCIUM.

" Thus the first place to which it is transported is to the plasma and

the membrane sites in soft tissues. It is then distributed to the

other sites where calcium plays an important role, most notably in

the teeth of developing children and in bone at all ages. < snip >

" One of the earliest diagnostic signs present is the appearance

of 'lead lines' at the gingival border in the mouth.

" This occurs because the lead, following calcium pathways, is

secreted with the saliva. It then is involved in a reaction with oral

bacteria which produce sulfides.

" The lead reacts with these compounds to form a purplish, or black,

lead sulfide deposit which precipitates in the region of highest

concentration, the 'protected area' at the gingival border. Other

metals also produce this phenomenon, but with differing colors for

the deposit. "

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Sue

Don't the teeth hurt? My 8 year old has a hole in his baby molar and I am

keen just to leave it because hopefully it will fall out in the next couple

of years and I don't want another anesthetic just for this he has already

had about 10 for different bits of surgery but I am worried about it getting

sore - I was wondering since these teeth aren't very deep do they not hurt

as much?

Thanks

Terri

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>

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>> > Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

>> > metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

>> > Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining

>teeth

>> > started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

>> > quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

>> > His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything in

>> > sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

>> >

>> > With Thanks

>> >

>> > Marie

>> >

>>

>> Im going out on a limb here but yes it is possibly the metals could

>be

>> interfering with the way his body uses calcium and he isnt getting

>> enough calcium.

>>

>>

>

>Hi ,

>Thanks, that's what we've been thinking ever since we found out about

>the whole heavy metal thing. It must be it because all he will drink

>is rice milk and that has as more calcium than regular cows milk. He

>drinks about 2 litres of the stuff every day so it couldn't be that

>he's not getting any calcium it must just be he's not absorbing it

>properly. I've heard that sometimes the body mistakes lead for

>calcium could this be it.

>We are still waiting for the results of his hair test to come back

>and we've only just found a doctor who knows anything about heavy

>metal poisoning. We live in Australia, and so far I've had contact

>with 2 other people who are chelating their children here who've been

>absolutely amazing in helping me with local information.

>

>With Thanks

>

>Marie

>

>

>

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Hi, i may disgust some of you, but when i was pregnant 15 years ago,

brushing my teeth made me gag and throwup so during my pregnancy i

didn't brush my teeth much and that was okay with my dentist.

then, it was VERY HARD to get back to brushing every day and i

haven't to this day.

so i made a deal with myself; when i clean my body (bath or shower) i

clean my teeth, brush and floss, in the tub or shower, and that's not

every day. in the winter it's every 4-5 days.

i'm married 18 years and i don't think my husband has ever noticed.

i almost never go to the dentist because when i go, he comes up with

hundreds and hundreds of dollars of work he wants to do; old

fillings, etc. etc. my teeth are fine and never bother me. i've

been off sugar and white flour maybe five years tho i do slip on

occasion.

i hope i haven't lost any friends by saying this today.

if you eat the SAD, maybe brushing and flossing twice a day help

control dental decay, but if you leave the problematic items out of

your food, then tooth decay shouldn't be a problem.

our son is 14 and has had maybe one or two cavities his whole life.

by the time i was 14 (i'm 50) my mouth was completely filled with

fillings. as a child, every dental visit, every 6 mo., i remember

having 1-3 fillings. that's 2-6 per year. they add up quickly to

fill up your whole mouth.

there is no sugar in my house, oops now there is for kombucha but

that's it, no white flour, etc.

if the DH and son want junk they have to get it outside of the house.

i was sugar addicted to the extreme and it took me YEARS to get off

it, with the help of www.radiantrecovery,com, a worthy web site (with

her books).

last night i went to burger king while the son was at tae kwon do. i

walked in with 2 slices of alvarado st. sprouted sourdough and asked

for a double whopper, no cheese, no ketchup, no mayo and they put it

on the bread for me. i put mustard on it and chowed down. yum. not

grass fed, but oh well.

is it possible some beef is grass fed and we don't even know it?

beef from the ranges out west or the ranges in argentina?

laura

> > Hello everyone.

> > I haven't posted here in a long time. Anyway, good to be back.

> >

> > I'm looking for some really good advice. My son has pretty bad

tooth

> > decay. Next dental visit is next week. It's been a year since he

was

> > last at a dentist, and they said he looked fine then (although I

> > didn't think so). We're struggling with tooth brushing, hopefully

> > we're in for a good change now though since he's more willing to

> > throughly brush his own teeth. He likes to chew on his

toothbrush, I

> > wonder if it's instinctual and " better " , indigenous dental habits

> > coming to mind.

> > Diet is another struggle. He's very picky and seems to be

somewhat

> > food intolerant. I think it would help to have a list of a few

very

> > nutrient-dense foods that I can give on a regular basis, any

ideas?

> > What particular nutrients should I emphasize? I've been thinking

of

> > getting clo and butter oil. Good idea?

> > I'm at a loss of what to do with fillings. Obviously, we'll avoid

> > mercury. But white fillings aren't that great either, being

plastic.

> > I've seen some children whose teeth are just eroding. I assume

their

> > parents opted out on fillings altogether. Which way is teh best

to

> > go? If tooth decay is advanced is there any hope of

remineralization

> > to the point where fillings are unneccessary?

> >

> > Thanks,

> > fina.

> >

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<is it possible some beef is grass fed and we don't even know it?

beef from the ranges out west or the ranges in argentina?

>

I'm afraid that's too much to hope for. Raising cattle on grass is only

somewhat more expensive in man-hours, care for and attention to the animals,

but the big difference in profit for farmers is in the extra weight the

cattle gain when eating grains. Even the beef that is advertised as

" grass-fed " is usually " finished " in the last month or two on grains (while

the customer is charged grass-fed prices). Which is why I buy buffalo meat

totally grass-fed.

There was a wonderful documentary on PBS recently called " Holy Cow. " I only

caught a small portion of it, but was happy to see the focus they had on

grass-fed vs grain-fed.

http://www.taichi4seniors.com

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> My 3 yr old autistic son has tooth decay on his top front teeth. This

> has been a problem for a year and a half. He doesn't sleep with a

> bottle/sippy cup and we brush his teeth every day. I wonder if it's

> due to vitamin deficiency (he has many). Has anyone else seen this in

> autistic children?

Lead toxicity, and deficiencies in calcium, magnesium, vitamin D, and

vitamin K, can all contribute to this. So can overbrushing,

especially if you use a stiff toothbrush or use baking soda or other

abrasives.

Dana

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> > Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by

heavy

> > metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth

removed.

> > Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining

teeth

> > started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

> > quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

> > His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything

in

> > sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

> >

> > With Thanks

> >

> > Marie

> >

>

>

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>

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Try using tea tree oil toothpaste and see if this helps with your sons tooth

decay. if you can teach him to gargle with the tea tree oil mouthwash this

would be great along with the toothpaste.. you can buy at any local health

food store.. Really works..

Corinne

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On Behalf Of Jan

Sent: Thursday, January 18, 2007 1:29 PM

Subject: [ ] Re: tooth decay

Yes, lead and flouride interfere with normal tooth enamel development.

Other metals cause deficiencys that relate to bad teeth.

Constant chewing is a sign of LEAD poisoning. Please have your childs

hair tested.

My son has discolored two year molars. They have brown spots on the

enamel due to his lead exposure. Get him on calcium and zinc.

>

> Is it possible that my son's tooth decay is exasperated by heavy

> metals. He's 3.8 years old and has aready had some teeth removed.

> Within a week of having his teeth removed two of his remaining teeth

> started to show signs of decay. It just seems to develop too

> quickly. I do brush his teeth but every day it just gets worse.

> His other teeth had to be removed because he chewed everything in

> sight and damaged the enamel on his teeth.

>

> With Thanks

>

> Marie

>

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