Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 Well.... all he has to do is actually read and follow " Dr. Atkins New Diet Revolution, " in which Dr. Atkins spells out how the plan works and what it entails and how to customize it for your individual needs and metabolism. He clearly calls this a low carb, moderate protein, high fat plan. It sounds as if your friend is doing " fake Atkins, " in other words, an " Atkins plan " that isn't really anything like what Dr. Atkins wrote. There is a LOT more to Atkins than just cutting carbs. It's a whole program designed to put a metabolic disorder into remission, to get the body to conserve muscle and burn fat, to improve energy levels, eradicate cravings, and be more physically active. So .... I would just say he should buy DANDR, read it, follow it as written and see if it works for him, and then decide what he thinks about high fat diets. One thing Dr. Atkins is clear on, when you eat a lot of protein, more than your body really needs, it's turned into glucose. You almost may as well have eaten carbs. Atkins doesn't work if you aren't eating high fat, it really doesn't. It's NOT a high protein diet (although certainly it's " meat friendly " ... I eat meat three times a day). You can also tell your friend I get around 70 percent of my calories from fat and have lost 133.5 pounds so far and never felt better in my entire life. Christie Caber Feidh ish Deerhounds Raising Our Dogs Holistically Since 1986 http://www.caberfeidh.com/ http://doggedblog.com/ Q for Christie -- Atkins expert > Hi Christie, > > I have a friend who follows Atkins as far as low carb, but his diet is > really a mostly high meat diet. I think he can't quite believe that he > should increase the saturated fat. I remember your saying once that a > lot of people doing Atkins have this misconception. > > Is there one or more of Atkins books that is explicit about eating > higher amounts of fat? He'd believe it if Atkins wrote it. (He read > one of his books a few years ago, but I don't remember which one.) > > Thanks, > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 I had an original Atkins book around 1981 that was very high fat, lots of cream and tasty stuff. I wondered what happened when I got the New Diet Revolution book as there seemed to be less of that. Take care, Alice - violist & HSing mom to Alice (DS) born Thanksgiving Day 1995 :-) Hopewell Junction, NY http://users.bestweb.net/~castella castella@... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 14, 2005 Report Share Posted December 14, 2005 >> I had an original Atkins book around 1981 that was very high fat, lots of cream and tasty stuff. I wondered what happened when I got the New Diet Revolution book as there seemed to be less of that. << Hmmmm, I do agree that Atkins rephrased some things <G>, but I still find DANDR to be full of cream and tasty stuff. <G> Christie Caber Feidh ish Deerhounds Raising Our Dogs Holistically Since 1986 http://www.caberfeidh.com/ http://doggedblog.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 > > One thing Dr. Atkins is clear on, when you eat a lot of protein, more > than > your body really needs, it's turned into glucose. You almost may as > well > have eaten carbs. Atkins doesn't work if you aren't eating high fat, it > really doesn't. Christie, do you know if this also applies to dogs and cats? Ruth Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 I don't know about dogs, but I know that cats have a much higher dietary need of protein than people. High quality (Kitty NT). Take care, Alice - violist & HSing mom to Alice (DS) born Thanksgiving Day 1995 :-) Hopewell Junction, NY http://users.bestweb.net/~castella castella@... Re: Q for Christie -- Atkins expert > > One thing Dr. Atkins is clear on, when you eat a lot of protein, more > than > your body really needs, it's turned into glucose. You almost may as > well > have eaten carbs. Atkins doesn't work if you aren't eating high fat, it > really doesn't. Christie, do you know if this also applies to dogs and cats? Ruth <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 15, 2005 Report Share Posted December 15, 2005 >> Christie, do you know if this also applies to dogs and cats?<< Cats and dogs can convert both protein and fat into glucogen and store it in the liver. I believe they are much more efficient at using fat in this way than humans are. I include in " cats " the big cats. Christie Caber Feidh ish Deerhounds Raising Our Dogs Holistically Since 1986 http://www.caberfeidh.com/ http://doggedblog.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 21, 2005 Report Share Posted December 21, 2005 Christie, on Amazon there are two DANDR books: Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution, New and Revised Edition Dr. Atkins' New Diet Revolution (Paperback) (I'm not sure of the publication dates.) Which is the one you refer to as the 'best' Atkins, or are they very similar? I've been following the insulin spike thread and see there's debate over the best macronutrient ratio for insulin resistant types. From your posts, Christie, it seems DANDR is at least a good place to start for my dh to better understand the insulin issue. He is the type who always asks for scientific evidence. Any other resources (books, articles) on the subject appreciated. Thanks, Daphne --- In , " Christie " <christiekeith@c...> wrote: > > >> I had an original Atkins book around 1981 that was very high fat, lots of > cream and tasty stuff. I wondered what happened when I got the New Diet > Revolution > book as there seemed to be less of that. << > > Hmmmm, I do agree that Atkins rephrased some things <G>, but I still find > DANDR to be full of cream and tasty stuff. <G> > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 22, 2005 Report Share Posted December 22, 2005 People differ, so you have to play with his diet to see what works best for him. You need a diet where blood sugar can be controlled, and yet it is composed of foods that he will enjoy. That takes some experimenting. Ann > > > > >> I had an original Atkins book around 1981 that was very high fat, lots of > > cream and tasty stuff. I wondered what happened when I got the New Diet > > Revolution > > book as there seemed to be less of that. << > > > > Hmmmm, I do agree that Atkins rephrased some things <G>, but I still find > > DANDR to be full of cream and tasty stuff. <G> > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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