Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 At 06:02 AM 12/29/2007, Harry and JES wrote: > " De said the Massachusetts outbreak is believed to be just the >third ever in pasteurized milk in the United States. Listeria is more >commonly associated with luncheon meats, soft cheeses and hot dogs. >It also can be found in raw, or unpasteurized, milk, he said. " > At a hearing held on May 19, 2004 in Colorado preceding the passage of the Colorado Shareholder Dairy Law (attended by about 200 people), B. Dean, attorney for Guidestone Farm provided statistics from the federal government that indicated that 200,000 persons were made ill from pasteurized milk from 1982-1997; and that 1,733 persons were made ill from raw milk from 1973-1992. You'd have to contact Mr. Dean for exact citations, but it seems to me that either the three outbreaks associated with pasteurized milk mentioned by Mr. De were huge (and some have been), or that he is simply blithely disseminating misinformation (and chalking up brownie points for when he wants to exit government and go back to work for Big Dairy). Statistics from the Center for Science in the Public Interest (CSPI) in a report titled " Outbreak Alert: Closing the Gaps in our Federal Food Safety Net (Updated and Revised–November, 2005) " are reproduced* (in an article I wrote in 2005. The stats are gathered from the CDC and State and Federal agencies. The report indicates of 153 dairy-related outbreaks (two or more persons affected) with 5,156 individuals affected, 68% of the cases were linked to " processed " dairy and 32% of cases were linked to " raw " dairy. No distinction was made between raw milk intended for direct human consumption and raw milk intended for subsequent pasteurization and consumed anyway. You can look at the article here: http://www.thefutureisorganic.net/dairy/tempest.htm The data is about 2/3 the way down the page. Chrys *With analysis and formatting by Cyndy Gray, an organizer with the Campaign for Raw Milk which is a project of the Northeast Organic Farming Association, Massachusetts Chapter. >PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! >Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > >Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted December 29, 2007 Report Share Posted December 29, 2007 Yes his data in that quote is clearly wrong. Here is an interesting page from WAPF. There are lots of disease outbreaks caused by pasteurized milk. http://www.westonaprice.org/children/rawmilk.html It seems to me and I have read it someplace else but pasteurization is just an excuse for filthy farming practice. I am also missing the source but I understand that in most states that allow raw milk, the standards are higher for raw milk then for factory milk before or after pasteurization. I am not afraid to say that without a source because if pressed I feel confident I could secure the data. > > > > " De said the Massachusetts outbreak is believed to be just the > >third ever in pasteurized milk in the United States. Listeria is more > >commonly associated with luncheon meats, soft cheeses and hot dogs. > >It also can be found in raw, or unpasteurized, milk, he said. " > > > > At a hearing held on May 19, 2004 in Colorado > preceding the passage of the Colorado Shareholder > Dairy Law (attended by about 200 people), B. > Dean, attorney for Guidestone Farm provided > statistics from the federal government that > indicated that 200,000 persons were made ill from > pasteurized milk from 1982-1997; and that 1,733 > persons were made ill from raw milk from 1973-1992. > > You'd have to contact Mr. Dean for exact > citations, but it seems to me that either the > three outbreaks associated with pasteurized milk > mentioned by Mr. De were huge (and some have > been), or that he is simply blithely > disseminating misinformation (and chalking up > brownie points for when he wants to exit > government and go back to work for Big Dairy). > > Statistics from the Center for Science in the > Public Interest (CSPI) in a report titled > " Outbreak Alert: Closing the Gaps in our Federal > Food Safety Net (Updated and Revised–November, > 2005) " are reproduced* (in an article I wrote in > 2005. The stats are gathered from the CDC and > State and Federal agencies. The report indicates > of 153 dairy-related outbreaks (two or more > persons affected) with 5,156 individuals > affected, 68% of the cases were linked to > " processed " dairy and 32% of cases were linked to > " raw " dairy. No distinction was made between raw > milk intended for direct human consumption and > raw milk intended for subsequent pasteurization and consumed anyway. > > You can look at the article here: > http://www.thefutureisorganic.net/dairy/tempest.htm > The data is about 2/3 the way down the page. > > Chrys > > *With analysis and formatting by Cyndy Gray, an > organizer with the Campaign for Raw Milk which is > a project of the Northeast Organic Farming Association, Massachusetts Chapter. > > > > > > >PLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING! > >Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information! > >http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/ > > > >Archive search: http://onibasu.com > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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