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> Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the

past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do

something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or surgeon

who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages

and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I

have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you.

Finally I can try.

>

> I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my

case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he will refer me to a

surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows

between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor and

surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am

waiting anxiously for any kind help.

>

> Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel able

to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have

gone to).

>

> Thanks,

>

> Meng

hi meng...

i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to

ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to

cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the surgeons

name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as my

symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if there is anything out there

to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know

alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me

know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more

tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!write

and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......

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Hi, :

Thank you for your response and concerns. I have decided to drive 800 miles from Arkansas to Cleveland clinic, to see Dr. Richter (GI specialist) first, I also made an appointment with Dr. Rice the next day (7-16-03). I had no idea what I will be facing. I am sorry your symptoms are not much improved. But please don't be discouraged, I think stress is the main cause of this problem. I suggest you try to be relaxed, and put trust in HIM (if you believe in Jesus).

I am so glad to see so many people are willing to share their experiences, be positive or negative, that way help the other people who have been frusted by what to do with their lives, and in return, get some encouragement from each other. I am very thankful.

Keep in touch, and respond when you can. thank you and take care!kmont43599 <kmont43599@...> wrote:

> Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or surgeon who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you. Finally I can try.> > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he will refer me to a surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor

and surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am waiting anxiously for any kind help. > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel able to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have gone to).> > Thanks,> > Menghi meng...i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the surgeons name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as my symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if there is anything out there to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a

guinea pig??? i know i do!write and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......

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> > Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the

> past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do

> something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or

surgeon

> who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages

> and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I

> have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you.

> Finally I can try.

> >

> > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my

> case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he will refer me to a

> surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows

> between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor

and

> surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am

> waiting anxiously for any kind help.

> >

> > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel

able

> to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have

> gone to).

> >

> > Thanks,

> >

> > Meng

>

> hi meng...

> i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to

> ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to

> cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the

surgeons

> name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as

my

> symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if there is anything out

there

> to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know

> alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me

> know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more

> tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!

write

> and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......

i'm so glad that you have decide to go to cleveland clinic.....

i have seen dr ritcher...but since i had the surgery they always just

send me to dr. rice now......please...let me know how it goes..ok?

you are in good hands with them.........

karen

>

>

>

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Hello, I just wanted to give you some feedback about the Cleveland

Clinic with regards to achalasia. The Cleveland Clinic is one of if

not the best medical institutions in the world for Achalasia. I had

the surgery on April 30th and I am doing very well. The surgeon, Dr.

Rice, head of the thoracic surgery department is probably the

best surgeon in the country to perform the heller myotomy procedure.

He has performed over three hundred myotomies. You are in the best

hands at the Cleveland Clinic. They will be able to diagnose and

treat your problem.

Arthur Grossman

> > > Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for

the

> > past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do

> > something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or

> surgeon

> > who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your

messages

> > and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore.

I

> > have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of

you.

> > Finally I can try.

> > >

> > > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss

my

> > case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he will refer me to

a

> > surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows

> > between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor

> and

> > surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am

> > waiting anxiously for any kind help.

> > >

> > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel

> able

> > to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have

> > gone to).

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > >

> > > Meng

> >

> > hi meng...

> > i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to

> > ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go

to

> > cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the

> surgeons

> > name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as

> my

> > symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if there is anything out

> there

> > to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know

> > alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let

me

> > know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more

> > tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!

> write

> > and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......

>

>

>

> i'm so glad that you have decide to go to cleveland clinic.....

> i have seen dr ritcher...but since i had the surgery they always

just

> send me to dr. rice now......please...let me know how it goes..ok?

> you are in good hands with them.........

> karen

> >

> >

> >

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Hi Arthur:

Thank you so much for your response which gives me a lot of positive assurance about the trip. It is a relief to hear that my decision, at least at this point, is going toward the right direction.

I am glad for your positive results, hope everyone in this group will have such good results. Now I am looking forward to this trip, I think I am doing something right for myself, instead of postponing again and again, not knowing what to do.

Thank you again for the encouragement. I will keep you posted about my visits.

Meng

ag5683 <agro55@...> wrote:

Hello, I just wanted to give you some feedback about the Cleveland Clinic with regards to achalasia. The Cleveland Clinic is one of if not the best medical institutions in the world for Achalasia. I had the surgery on April 30th and I am doing very well. The surgeon, Dr. Rice, head of the thoracic surgery department is probably the best surgeon in the country to perform the heller myotomy procedure. He has performed over three hundred myotomies. You are in the best hands at the Cleveland Clinic. They will be able to diagnose and treat your problem.Arthur Grossman > > > Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the > > past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do > > something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or > surgeon > > who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages > > and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I > > have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you. > > Finally I can try.> > > > > > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my > > case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he will refer me to a > > surgeon if he thinks I need

surgery. I wonder if anyone knows > > between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor > and > > surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am > > waiting anxiously for any kind help. > > > > > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel > able > > to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have > > gone to).> > > > > > Thanks,> > > > > > Meng> > > > hi meng...> > i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to > > ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to > > cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the > surgeons > > name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as > my

> > symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if there is anything out > there > > to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know > > alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me > > know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more > > tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!> write > > and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......> > > > i'm so glad that you have decide to go to cleveland clinic.....> i have seen dr ritcher...but since i had the surgery they always just > send me to dr. rice now......please...let me know how it goes..ok? > you are in good hands with them.........> karen> > > > > >

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Hi, :

Thank you for your response again, I am glad you sounded better. Hope things are getting better. I will let you know the results of my visits with the doctors.

Hanging there and think positive, I am sure you will feel better. Take care!

Meng kmont43599 <kmont43599@...> wrote:

> > Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the > past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do > something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or surgeon > who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages > and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I > have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you. > Finally I can try.> > > > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my > case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he

will refer me to a > surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows > between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor and > surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am > waiting anxiously for any kind help. > > > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel able > to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have > gone to).> > > > Thanks,> > > > Meng> > hi meng...> i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to > ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to > cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the surgeons > name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as my > symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if

there is anything out there > to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know > alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me > know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more > tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!write > and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......i'm so glad that you have decide to go to cleveland clinic.....i have seen dr ritcher...but since i had the surgery they always just send me to dr. rice now......please...let me know how it goes..ok? you are in good hands with them.........karen> > >

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Hi, :

Thank you for your response again, I am glad you sounded better. Hope things are getting better. I will let you know the results of my visits with the doctors.

Hanging there and think positive, I am sure you will feel better. Take care!

Meng kmont43599 <kmont43599@...> wrote:

> > Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the > past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do > something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or surgeon > who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages > and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I > have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you. > Finally I can try.> > > > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my > case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he

will refer me to a > surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows > between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor and > surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am > waiting anxiously for any kind help. > > > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel able > to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have > gone to).> > > > Thanks,> > > > Meng> > hi meng...> i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to > ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to > cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the surgeons > name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as my > symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if

there is anything out there > to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know > alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me > know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more > tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!write > and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......i'm so glad that you have decide to go to cleveland clinic.....i have seen dr ritcher...but since i had the surgery they always just send me to dr. rice now......please...let me know how it goes..ok? you are in good hands with them.........karen> > >

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Hi, :

Thank you for your response again, I am glad you sounded better. Hope things are getting better. I will let you know the results of my visits with the doctors.

Hanging there and think positive, I am sure you will feel better. Take care!

Meng kmont43599 <kmont43599@...> wrote:

> > Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the > past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do > something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or surgeon > who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages > and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I > have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you. > Finally I can try.> > > > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my > case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he

will refer me to a > surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows > between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor and > surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am > waiting anxiously for any kind help. > > > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel able > to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have > gone to).> > > > Thanks,> > > > Meng> > hi meng...> i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to > ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to > cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the surgeons > name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as my > symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if

there is anything out there > to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know > alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me > know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more > tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a guinea pig??? i know i do!write > and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......i'm so glad that you have decide to go to cleveland clinic.....i have seen dr ritcher...but since i had the surgery they always just send me to dr. rice now......please...let me know how it goes..ok? you are in good hands with them.........karen> > >

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Hi, and everyone:

I just came back from the trip (to Cleveland Clinic, and then Canada). I am gonna give you a report. I visited with Dr. Richter several times. He first did the motility testing, then repeated the B-swallow, all confirmed I do have A. Then he suggested doing the Dilation on the third day (He said he wouldn't recommend botox for me due to the possibility of messing up the surgery if I need it later). At this point he thought I don't have to have surgery. (Although I have had this A for so long, but he said it was strange that I seemed to by "Asymptomatic", i,e., I don't have a lot of difficulty swallowing than when I just got A.

However, my insurance company called 5 minutes right before the dilation procedure was set to be done. Dr. Richter was very nice and he said he didn't feel comfortable to do the procedure since my insurance changed its mind (out of net-work stuff), should anything go wrong. He has done over 100 in the past years, with only one incidence of needing emergency surgery. I took his advice. I really think he is a great doctor, he is very knowledgable about A, and he is very kind and thoughtful. I will recommend him to anybody. His office staff was also wonderful. I also asked him about the alternatives, such as meditation and acupuncture. He did say there was a small study done on acupuncture which showing some people got help from it. It won't hurt to try.

At this point, I haven't decide what to do yet. I might take the alternative approach. I read from some of your messsages, and maybe the alternative method would help. Please share this information if any one has more info. I will share with anybody outthere who might want to know. I don't think the trip was in vain, I learned more about A, and now I am looking at it from a different angle. Before this, I tried to avoid it, now I am FACING the problem. I want to find a way to get better. I also don't want to deal with my insurance,(premierecare, triad hospital, etc.), because in the net work I have yet found anybody who knows how to treat A yet, (at least in my area-Arkansas).

Good luck, everybody, and keep in touch. Take care and God bless y'all.

Mengkmont43599 <kmont43599@...> wrote:

> Hi, everyone: I am a new member but having had Achalasia for the past 14 years. Recently it is getting worse, and I HAVE to do something. I am in an small area and haven't found any GI or surgeon who treats Achalasia. I have been reading a lot of your messages and have learned a lot from it. Now I don't feel alone anymore. I have been frustrated for not knowing how to contact anyone of you. Finally I can try.> > I plan to go to a GI doctor in Cleveland clinic, OH to discuss my case. It is 800 miles away. I don't know if he will refer me to a surgeon if he thinks I need surgery. I wonder if anyone knows between Arkansas and OH there might be some experienced GI doctor

and surgeons (Dallas is about 6 hours away). Please respond and I am waiting anxiously for any kind help. > > Good luck with everything you are in and do! (I have not beel able to download the list containing doctors/surgeons some of you have gone to).> > Thanks,> > Menghi meng...i too had had achalasia for such a long time......i moved here to ohio just 4 yrs ago...when my disease has gotten worse.....i go to cleveland clinic now....where i did get surgery done....the surgeons name is dr rice....and i still go there for more tests as well as my symptoms hasnt gone away...i dont know if there is anything out there to help us achalasia patients...but....we cant give up.....i know alot of achalasia patients who now go to cleveland clinic...let me know if you decide...i go back the 4th and the 5th for 2 more tests....hmmm...dont you feel like a

guinea pig??? i know i do!write and let me know how you are.....ok? im concerned......

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Hi Sherryl,

Welcome to the group! Congratulations on the newest edition to your

family.

I'm going to try and answer all of your questions, 1, you don't know

if the person you are seeing is plagio educated or band friendly. A

lot of doctors aren't, sadly. You have to go with your Mommy instinct

on this one. It is YOUR decision whether or not Zander gets banded,

not your specialists. What is your specialists name? Maybe someone

here has used him before and can give you a heads up.

2, Once a baby is casted it shouldn't be longer then 2 weeks before

fitting. The younger a baby is banded the better and faster the

correction. While you're waiting for your appointment you really

should be aggressively repositioning Zander off his flat spot. Look

in the files section under REPOSITIONING HEADQUARTERS for some

helpful info.

3, Some insurance companies DO pay for bands and helmets, some don't.

Who is your insurance company?

Please keep us posted on your little cutie.

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Sherryl " <nickandgabe@h...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm so happy to have found this group. My name is

> Sherryl. My husband and I have 3 boys. We adopted our youngest,

> Zander, from birth. He is now 4 months old. At Zander's 4 month

> check up, the pediatrician noted his misshapen head. We have been

> aware of it for quite a while, but were hoping that it was normal

> and it would just fix itself. It is flat across the back, more on

> one side than the other. He has an odd groove on one side and an

> indentation on the other. Those two things worry me more than the

> flatness. Anyway, our Ped said Zander's Plagio is severe and has

> referred us to a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon for follow up.

>

> I plan on making myself into a Plagio Expert before we go to his

> appointment in July. I need help though..I have so many

questions.

> I hope you all can help me.

>

> First, how do I know the doctor I am going to see is familiar with

> Plagio? How do I trust his diagnosis?

>

> Once we see the specialist, how long does it usually take to get

> through the fitting and actually getting the band? Zander will be

5

> 1/2 months by the time we even get in to see him for the first

> time. I worry that the longer it takes, the harder it will be on

my

> little guy.

>

> I'm also concerned about insurance. How likely is it that they

will

> cover treatment? Do your insurance companies cover it? Has

> anyone's company totally refused to cover?

>

> Thanks so much for all of your help. I've been reading everything

I

> can find and will continue to do so. This group will be so

helpful,

> I'm sure.

>

> Sherryl

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Hi Sherryl,

Welcome to the group! I have gotten so much good support here and

everyone is so helpful and nice. I'm not sure about others here, but

it's interesting to me that you were referred to a plastic surgeon. I

was referred to a neurosurgeon and I think pretty much everyone here

who has been referred was sent to a neurologist or a neurosurgeon. I

could be wrong though! From personal experience, it took about 2

weeks from when they did the initial exam at Cranial Technologies to

the casting. After the casting it's 1-2 weeks before the helmet is

fitted. Finally about the insurance, when we started this whole

process I had United Healthcare and they refused to pay for the

helmet. In the middle I switched jobs and now have Aetna. They paid

for it,no questions asked. There is a great folder in the database

with insurance companies and how much they paid. You are doing this

in plenty of time, you should see great correction at this age. Good

luck and keep us posted! Hope that helps!

Mia

09/22/03

brachycephaly, tort, DOC band 05/27/04

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Sherryl " <nickandgabe@h...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm so happy to have found this group. My name is

> Sherryl. My husband and I have 3 boys. We adopted our youngest,

> Zander, from birth. He is now 4 months old. At Zander's 4 month

> check up, the pediatrician noted his misshapen head. We have been

> aware of it for quite a while, but were hoping that it was normal

> and it would just fix itself. It is flat across the back, more on

> one side than the other. He has an odd groove on one side and an

> indentation on the other. Those two things worry me more than the

> flatness. Anyway, our Ped said Zander's Plagio is severe and has

> referred us to a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon for follow up.

>

> I plan on making myself into a Plagio Expert before we go to his

> appointment in July. I need help though..I have so many

questions.

> I hope you all can help me.

>

> First, how do I know the doctor I am going to see is familiar with

> Plagio? How do I trust his diagnosis?

>

> Once we see the specialist, how long does it usually take to get

> through the fitting and actually getting the band? Zander will be

5

> 1/2 months by the time we even get in to see him for the first

> time. I worry that the longer it takes, the harder it will be on

my

> little guy.

>

> I'm also concerned about insurance. How likely is it that they

will

> cover treatment? Do your insurance companies cover it? Has

> anyone's company totally refused to cover?

>

> Thanks so much for all of your help. I've been reading everything

I

> can find and will continue to do so. This group will be so

helpful,

> I'm sure.

>

> Sherryl

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Hi Sherryl,

Welcome to the group! I see you have had some responses, so I won't

babble on and on. Maybe let us know where your doctor is (State) and

the name, someone else may have experience with this doc.

When we first heard about our son Jaxson having plagio, we were

referred to a cranialfacial surgeon. He is the one that rx'd the

craniocap. Our insurance paid, which is United HealthCare. At first

they said nope, they wouldnt pay because it's cosmetic (yeah,uh

huh,sure) but then they came through with no hassle on our part.

yeah!!

Jaxson was casted for his helmet the same day we saw the

cranialfacial surgeon and we received his helmet 2 weeks after that.

Post here with any questions as many of us have been through what

you're going through now. Its probably one of very few places that

you can go where so many people can relate to you and how you are

feeling. Jax received his helmet at 5 months, wore until he was 9

months. He had severe plagio.

Take care and let us know...

Kim

mom to Kaela (9) and Jaxson 11 mo tort/CranioCap grad 04/09/04

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Sherryl " <nickandgabe@h...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm so happy to have found this group. My name is

> Sherryl. My husband and I have 3 boys. We adopted our youngest,

> Zander, from birth. He is now 4 months old. At Zander's 4 month

> check up, the pediatrician noted his misshapen head. We have been

> aware of it for quite a while, but were hoping that it was normal

> and it would just fix itself. It is flat across the back, more on

> one side than the other. He has an odd groove on one side and an

> indentation on the other. Those two things worry me more than the

> flatness. Anyway, our Ped said Zander's Plagio is severe and has

> referred us to a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon for follow up.

>

> I plan on making myself into a Plagio Expert before we go to his

> appointment in July. I need help though..I have so many

questions.

> I hope you all can help me.

>

> First, how do I know the doctor I am going to see is familiar with

> Plagio? How do I trust his diagnosis?

>

> Once we see the specialist, how long does it usually take to get

> through the fitting and actually getting the band? Zander will be

5

> 1/2 months by the time we even get in to see him for the first

> time. I worry that the longer it takes, the harder it will be on

my

> little guy.

>

> I'm also concerned about insurance. How likely is it that they

will

> cover treatment? Do your insurance companies cover it? Has

> anyone's company totally refused to cover?

>

> Thanks so much for all of your help. I've been reading everything

I

> can find and will continue to do so. This group will be so

helpful,

> I'm sure.

>

> Sherryl

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Hi Sherryl & welcome to our group!

Let me try to answer your questions below:

> First, how do I know the doctor I am going to see is familiar with

> Plagio? How do I trust his diagnosis?

Where do you live & what specialist will you be seeing?? We are such

a large group, it's possible we have another member who has seen your

speciialist or is in your area. I'd suggest adding your location &

Drs name to your subject line asking if anyone has been to this Dr or

lives nearby.

As said, a lot of Drs are not plagio knowledgable & many give

the same old song & dance " It'll round out on it's own " Or " Hair will

cover it " or " Nobody's head is perfect " . But more & more plaigo info

is out there now, so hopefully, your specialist will be plagio

knowledgable!

There's a list of " questions for the Dr " at

http://www.plagiocephaly.org/support Print those ?'s off & bring

them to the appt with you if you'd like. I think there's also a list

of ?'s at http://www.cappskids.org

>

> Once we see the specialist, how long does it usually take to get

> through the fitting and actually getting the band? Zander will be

5

> 1/2 months by the time we even get in to see him for the first

> time. I worry that the longer it takes, the harder it will be on

my

> little guy.

Your specialist will have to write you a prescription & then refer

you to a helmet or band provider. Check out our groups

DATABASE " Helmet/band providers " and see if we have listed a provider

in your area, it is listed alphabetically by state or country.

Often, the helmet/band provider will want to get preauthorization

from your insurance provider. You may want to call your insurance to

inquire about coverage ahead of time as well. I see you asked about

ins. coverage. Many do get bands covered, some don't, but many

parents will on appeals. So don't be discouraged if they tell you

NO -- fight fight fight! What ins. do you have?

If you have to wait a couple mos., still don't worry about your son

not tolerating a helmet, really, babies don't mind them for a minute!

It's very uncommon for children to not tolerate bands. I couldn't

believe it when my daughter seriously never fussed for a minute when

she got hers. I've been here a long time now & it's quite uncommon

for babies not to adjust!

Good luck - maybe ask your specialist's office to be put on their

cancellation list - so if anyone cancels their appt between now &

July they could call you?? It's worth a shot to be seen sooner.

Also try repositioning in the mean time. Tips are in both our LINKS &

FILES 'repositioning " area of the group.

Debbie

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Hello Sherryl,

I just wanted to welcome you to the group as well. I am new here too

and have lots to learn, but will do whatever I can to help support

you through this process. We can learn and go thru this together.

From what I have found out in my area, is that it will be 2 wks. to

get a band/helmet after the casting/scanning apptm't. Insurance

co.'s will vary but I am fairly confident that we can fight for at

least partial payment of the device. I pretty much forced our ped to

refer us to a specialist and she referred us to a neurosurgeon. The

lab that we will go to has a certified Orthotist on staff with many

years of experience. See if you can speak directly with the

specialist or nurse practitioner/other in the office about his/her

experience. Please keep us posted and good luck.

Sue

Colin F. (brachy; pending treatment) 8 mos. old

Buffalo, NY

(I'm not too sure what to write here)

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Welcome to the group, Sherryl!

I hope we can be of help with some of your questions; there are a

ton of parents here who did helmet/band their babies, and can give

you some good tips on what to expect and how to evaluate your visit

with the specialist. There are two links to two lists of questions

for the orthotists and doctor in the Links/Helmets and Bands section

of the group that would be great to review and take to your appt.

As far as experience goes, not only does experience with plagio

babies important, but also familiarity with the methods of

treatment, whether aggressive repositioning or helmets/bands. In

addition, it's important to note that there is currently no standard

for evaluating plagio and the accompanying asymmetries that can

occur. I think one is in development for the orthotists' industry,

but I don't know of any for the medical community yet. You will

have to rely on what you perceive as a parent, and what your goal

headshape for your son would be, to help you in your decision. In

addition, it's important to familiarize yourself through some of the

photos available what kind of correction CAN be achieved with

helmets and bands. As you mentioned, it might take several weeks or

sometimes months to slog through all of the appts. to finally get

into a band or helmet; we've had some parents have some success with

getting on cancellation lists, etc. to help increase the odds of

speeding up the whole process, which you could also consider doing

with your current upcoming appt. with the ped plastic surgeon.

Take care,

Christie (Mom to Repo'd Remy)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Sherryl " <nickandgabe@h...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm so happy to have found this group. My name is

> Sherryl. My husband and I have 3 boys. We adopted our youngest,

> Zander, from birth. He is now 4 months old. At Zander's 4 month

> check up, the pediatrician noted his misshapen head. We have been

> aware of it for quite a while, but were hoping that it was normal

> and it would just fix itself. It is flat across the back, more on

> one side than the other. He has an odd groove on one side and an

> indentation on the other. Those two things worry me more than the

> flatness. Anyway, our Ped said Zander's Plagio is severe and has

> referred us to a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon for follow up.

>

> I plan on making myself into a Plagio Expert before we go to his

> appointment in July. I need help though..I have so many

questions.

> I hope you all can help me.

>

> First, how do I know the doctor I am going to see is familiar with

> Plagio? How do I trust his diagnosis?

>

> Once we see the specialist, how long does it usually take to get

> through the fitting and actually getting the band? Zander will be

5

> 1/2 months by the time we even get in to see him for the first

> time. I worry that the longer it takes, the harder it will be on

my

> little guy.

>

> I'm also concerned about insurance. How likely is it that they

will

> cover treatment? Do your insurance companies cover it? Has

> anyone's company totally refused to cover?

>

> Thanks so much for all of your help. I've been reading everything

I

> can find and will continue to do so. This group will be so

helpful,

> I'm sure.

>

> Sherryl

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Hi Sherryl, and welcome to the group.

About your specialist's credentials, this is a big group: chances

are someone is in your area and can give you some thoughts. Where

are you? Whom are you going to see? Lucia was 5.5 when we made the

decision to go for the band. She started wearing it exactly one

month later. As for the insurance, mine, BCBS of FL, does not cover

it. I am appealing on their decision, but I have very fewn chances

to win. Good luck!

Valeria (Lucia, 7.5 mo., DOC band 5/12/04)

--- In Plagiocephaly , " Sherryl " <nickandgabe@h...>

wrote:

> Hi everyone! I'm so happy to have found this group. My name is

> Sherryl. My husband and I have 3 boys. We adopted our youngest,

> Zander, from birth. He is now 4 months old. At Zander's 4 month

> check up, the pediatrician noted his misshapen head. We have been

> aware of it for quite a while, but were hoping that it was normal

> and it would just fix itself. It is flat across the back, more on

> one side than the other. He has an odd groove on one side and an

> indentation on the other. Those two things worry me more than the

> flatness. Anyway, our Ped said Zander's Plagio is severe and has

> referred us to a Pediatric Plastic Surgeon for follow up.

>

> I plan on making myself into a Plagio Expert before we go to his

> appointment in July. I need help though..I have so many

questions.

> I hope you all can help me.

>

> First, how do I know the doctor I am going to see is familiar with

> Plagio? How do I trust his diagnosis?

>

> Once we see the specialist, how long does it usually take to get

> through the fitting and actually getting the band? Zander will be

5

> 1/2 months by the time we even get in to see him for the first

> time. I worry that the longer it takes, the harder it will be on

my

> little guy.

>

> I'm also concerned about insurance. How likely is it that they

will

> cover treatment? Do your insurance companies cover it? Has

> anyone's company totally refused to cover?

>

> Thanks so much for all of your help. I've been reading everything

I

> can find and will continue to do so. This group will be so

helpful,

> I'm sure.

>

> Sherryl

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Hi Giseli and welcome,

Enzymes are a good choice for your son's first supplements because,

as you've probably gathered from the book, they can achieve so many

things in the body. You'll probably want to try both Peptizyde and

Zyme Prime, as together they can be a powerful combination for many

kids. As for us, we do best with just AFP Pep with every meal and

snack and No-Fenol as needed. So as you see, you might end up

experimenting a bit to see what brings the most benefit to your

son. Most people see good results within three weeks of starting

the enzymes.

Many people start off with Zyme Prime (see www.houstonni.com)

because it's fairly easily tolerated from the beginning, and the

adjustment period can be easier. Once the ZP is tolerated well and

you're up to a capsule for every meal, you can add in the

Peptizyde. You'll have to decide whether you want the versions of

both these products with or without the papain and bromelain.

Papain (from papaya) and bromelain (from pineapple) are very

effective enzymes, but some of " our kids " don't tolerate them well.

Do you have reason to suspect your son is avoiding fruits because he

doesn't feel well when he eats them? That may be an indication to

avoid the papain and bromelain. Or that he will also need No-

Fenol. Or both! Like I said, there will be a bit of experimenting

until you find the right combo.

Have you also reviewed www.enzymestuff.com? That's a great site

authored by DeFelice, who also wrote the book you're reading.

There's lots of good info there, as well.

Let us know if you have more questions and how your son is doing

once you start the enzymes.

>

>

> Hello,

>

> My name is Giseli and my son Igor has apraxia and hypotonia (he

was

> first diagnosed with autism).

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Thank you so much. I'll check out the site. I order the enzymes and I'm just

waiting to arriving. I'm going to take it too. My son used to eat fruits but

know he hates it. I never thought about that but could be that he doesn't fell

good after eat it. It's hard to know if he is ok or not since he doesn't feel

pain at all. It is like he is in a constant anesthetic, he can fall, scratch and

he will not say anything, even ouch. In the last 3 months he is getting more

aware of his body, and this is getting better (he'll show me a booboo) .

Thank you again,

Giseli

Re: New member with lots of questions

Hi Giseli and welcome,

Enzymes are a good choice for your son's first supplements because,

as you've probably gathered from the book, they can achieve so many

things in the body. You'll probably want to try both Peptizyde and

Zyme Prime, as together they can be a powerful combination for many

kids. As for us, we do best with just AFP Pep with every meal and

snack and No-Fenol as needed. So as you see, you might end up

experimenting a bit to see what brings the most benefit to your

son. Most people see good results within three weeks of starting

the enzymes.

Many people start off with Zyme Prime (see www.houstonni.com)

because it's fairly easily tolerated from the beginning, and the

adjustment period can be easier. Once the ZP is tolerated well and

you're up to a capsule for every meal, you can add in the

Peptizyde. You'll have to decide whether you want the versions of

both these products with or without the papain and bromelain.

Papain (from papaya) and bromelain (from pineapple) are very

effective enzymes, but some of " our kids " don't tolerate them well.

Do you have reason to suspect your son is avoiding fruits because he

doesn't feel well when he eats them? That may be an indication to

avoid the papain and bromelain. Or that he will also need No-

Fenol. Or both! Like I said, there will be a bit of experimenting

until you find the right combo.

Have you also reviewed www.enzymestuff.com? That's a great site

authored by DeFelice, who also wrote the book you're reading.

There's lots of good info there, as well.

Let us know if you have more questions and how your son is doing

once you start the enzymes.

>

>

> Hello,

>

> My name is Giseli and my son Igor has apraxia and hypotonia (he

was

> first diagnosed with autism).

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> From: " Viadro " <viadro@...>

>Subject: New member with lots of questions!

I'm new here myself, and will answer the few ones I can!

>Both sons, unfortunately, were born by c-section (despite being attended by

>midwives, first one at a birth center, second one at home, both ended up in

>hospital transfers, both were in posterior position).

I can identify here! My second baby was a c-section despite a good midwife

and attempted home birth. You mentioned posterior--have you read about

optimal fetal positioning? I did and it didn't work with my baby, but I

hear it works with lots of people. Of course, that information is useful

only if you have another baby and can attempt another vaginal birth!

On the dairy, I agree with Nenah. My third baby is dairy allergic but can

tolerate some dairy items (whole milk yogurt, mostly). I normally encourage

my children to finish their food, but if I have an inkling she could be

allergic I don't push.

About grains, I part company with apparently the majority of this list in

that I don't think grains are bad, especially whole grains prepared in an NT

way, especially for children. We're not talking white flour here. People

have been using wheat since the dawn of recorded history and unless there's

a clear allergy or intolerance, I think whole grains (especially fermented)

are good.

>10. STOCKMAKING: How do people keep on top of making stock? I find it to be

>time-consuming by the time one gets it going, strains it, gets it in jars,

>cleans everything up, etc. With two small children, it is a challenge.

>Also, my chicken stock NEVER gels, and my beef stock gets thick but not

>totally gelatious when refrigerated. This, despite getting the best quality

>ingredients I can come up with. Also, how long do most people simmer their

>chicken stock? I do 24 hours, which makes for nice broth, but I can't stand

>the taste of the leftover chicken meat afterwards...

I found some chicken feet and beef hooves in a Mexican grocery store. My

stock gelled very nicely. If you want to do big batches at a time, you can

do it less often. You can use a roaster oven (those things people cook

turkeys in on the countertop at Thanksgiving) as a huge crockpot. I have an

18-quart roaster oven that is useful for cooking up big batches without

using a burner on the stove. Now that the weather is getting warmer you

could even do it outside or in the garage and avoid heating up the house.

It might be difficult to find a roaster oven to buy new this time of year.

They are usually out around Thanksgiving.

Sara R

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