RE: Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a Fraud

[Guest guest]

No offense but Al Gore (yesterday's US political news) has anything

resembling a clue (or even two brain cells to rub together considering his

position on global warming or the Kyoto Protocol?) Since when?

Stojanik

Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a " Fraud "

> Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a " Fraud "

>

> TORONTO, Ontario, Canada, April 29, 2007 - Former U.S. Vice President Al

> Gore has created a furor in Canada over the Conservative Government's new

> plan to impose mandatory greenhouse gas emissions targets on industry. The

> plan supercedes Canada's legally binding commitments under the Kyoto

> Protocol.

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[Guest guest]

Of course he is! This is a direct attack on where he is making his stand - Carbon Credits! He buys carbon credits from his own company, while at the same time still emitting "greenhouse" gases into the atmosphere himself. Gore is a charlatan and carbon credits are a hoax. I wish that someone would start arguing the whole issue of "global warming" and natural climatic cycles that the Earth goes through.

I am a disbeliever in the issue of "global warming" as it is being communicated by people like Gore. Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a "Fraud"TORONTO, Ontario, Canada, April 29, 2007 – Former U.S. Vice President Al Gore has created a furor in Canada over the Conservative Government's new plan to impose mandatory greenhouse gas emissions targets on industry. The plan supercedes Canada's legally binding commitments under the Kyoto Protocol.>>Read Full Text … http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2007/2007-04-29-02.aspFAIR USE NOTICE:This site contains copyrighted material the use of which has not always been specifically authorized by the copyright owner. We are making such material available in our efforts to advance understanding of environmental, political, human rights, economic, democracy, scientific,

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[Guest guest]

Adam, Good for you and your stand. You

should have been in Nashville

and heard Stacey Champion ramble on and on about what a hero Al Gore is for ALL

he is doing for the environment, Etc. I think that’s why most everyone in the

auditorium walked out on her “Green” talk.

Ken D.

From:

iequality [mailto:iequality ] On Behalf Of Adam Pratt

Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:20

AM

To: iequality

Subject: Re: Gore

Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a " Fraud "

Of course he is! This is a direct attack on where he is

making his stand - Carbon Credits! He buys carbon credits from his

own company, while at the same time still emitting " greenhouse " gases

into the atmosphere himself. Gore is a charlatan and carbon credits are

a hoax. I wish that someone would start arguing the whole issue

of " global warming " and natural climatic cycles that the

Earth goes through.

I am a disbeliever in the issue of " global warming " as it is

being communicated by people like Gore.

Gore Slams Canada's

New Climate Plan as a " Fraud "

TORONTO, Ontario, Canada, April 29, 2007 – Former U.S. Vice President Al

Gore has created a furor in Canada over the Conservative Government's new

plan to impose mandatory greenhouse gas emissions targets on industry. The

plan supercedes Canada's

legally binding commitments under the Kyoto

Protocol.

>>Read Full Text … http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2007/2007-04-29-02.asp

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[Guest guest]

Ken -

While I have chosen to no longer contribute to this discussion

group, this post was brought to my attention so I felt it necessary

to address (and defend myself) regarding your post.

#1 - At no time did I refer to Al Gore as a " hero. " Did you

actually attend my whole session sir?

I mentioned Al Gore's documentary when I was stating my personal

opinions as to why I felt " green " had reached it's tipping point, if

you will, and had gone more mainstream with consumer awareness of

global warming reaching an all-time high. I did not say what I

personally thought of his documentary at no time, and simply used it

as a gateway to address the science surrounding global warming as it

is connected to the building (and especially green building)

industry. I had one powerpoint slide that simply said " Global

Warming - Thank You Al Gore. "

How you, sir, chose to interpret that slide was purely up to you...

As far as your comment about " nearly everyone walking out... " that

is entirely untrue. Had the 10 or so people who did walk out at the

mere mention of Al Gore's name chosen to stay, they would have

quickly realized that my presentation was not focused on global

warming, and it certainly did not take any political stance, as I

feel that politics are as personal to people as religion, sexual

orientation, or any of the other things people generally have heated

debates over. Perhaps you should ask the more than 100 attendees

who chose to stay.

I personally don't care whether you believe in global warming or not

Ken. The science is out there. What you choose to think and how

you act upon those thoughts is not in my control, nor is it my

concern.

I recently read an article on a study that was conducted in the UK

on fungus. The mushrooms are now producing fruiting bodies twice a

year now instead of just once in the fall, because the spring frost

is not what it once was. This would then mean that things will be

decaying at twice the " normal " rate. It's interesting stuff.

The point of my presentation, and what I do for a living for that

matter, is that there are different and better ways for us to build

that can save energy, water, have a lesser environmental impact and

improve occupant's health and comfort in the process.

So, my question for you is: Did you stay through my entire

presentation to come to your conclusion? Did you read my

proceedings paper?

If not, then I think it is fair to say that you jumped to a quick

(and wrong) conclusion, and potentially missed out on learning

something new. Just because you don't agree with something, doesn't

mean that there isn't something new to learn...

Happily back to MIA status.

Regards,

Stacey Champion

Owner/Consultant

Champion Indoors, LLC

Champion Indoor Environmental Services, LLC

>

> Adam, Good for you and your stand. You should have been in

Nashville and

> heard Stacey Champion ramble on and on about what a hero Al Gore

is for ALL

> he is doing for the environment, Etc. I think that's why most

everyone in

> the auditorium walked out on her " Green " talk.

>

> Ken D.

>

>

>

> _____

>

> From: iequality [mailto:iequality ]

On Behalf

> Of Adam Pratt

> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:20 AM

> To: iequality

> Subject: Re: Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as

a " Fraud "

>

>

>

> Of course he is! This is a direct attack on where he is making

his stand -

> Carbon Credits! He buys carbon credits from his own company,

while at the

> same time still emitting " greenhouse " gases into the atmosphere

himself.

> Gore is a charlatan and carbon credits are a hoax. I wish that

someone

> would start arguing the whole issue of " global warming " and

natural climatic

> cycles that the Earth goes through.

>

>

>

> I am a disbeliever in the issue of " global warming " as it is being

> communicated by people like Gore.

> Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a " Fraud "

>

> TORONTO, Ontario, Canada, April 29, 2007 - Former U.S. Vice

President Al

> Gore has created a furor in Canada over the Conservative

Government's new

> plan to impose mandatory greenhouse gas emissions targets on

industry. The

> plan supercedes Canada's legally binding commitments under the

Kyoto

> Protocol.

>

> >>Read Full Text . http://www.ens-

> <http://www.ens-newswire.com/ens/apr2007/2007-04-29-02.asp>

> newswire.com/ens/apr2007/2007-04-29-02.asp

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

To discuss whether global warming exists or doesn't is not the

important subject. Allowing the " fouling " of ones' own environment is

is short-sighted way to live. Should we live like pigs or not, would

be a similar discussion.

[Guest guest]

To discuss whether global warming exists or doesn't is not the

important subject. Allowing the " fouling " of ones' own environment is

is short-sighted way to live. Should we live like pigs or not, would

be a similar discussion.

[Guest guest]

To discuss whether global warming exists or doesn't is not the

important subject. Allowing the " fouling " of ones' own environment is

is short-sighted way to live. Should we live like pigs or not, would

be a similar discussion.

[Guest guest]

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> > Adam, Good for you and your stand. You should have been

> in

> Nashville and > heard Stacey Champion ramble on and on about what

> a

> hero Al Gore is for ALL > he is doing for the environment, Etc. I

> think that's why most everyone in > the auditorium walked out on her

> " Green " talk. > > Ken D. > > > > _____ > > From: iequality@yahoogrou

> ps.com [mailto:iequality@yahoogrou ps.com] On Behalf > Of Adam

> Pratt >

> Sent: Tuesday, May 01, 2007 7:20 AM > To: iequality@yahoogrou

> ps.com >

> Subject: Re: Gore Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a

> " Fraud " > > > > Of course he is! This is a direct attack on where he

> is making his stand - > Carbon Credits! He buys carbon credits from

> his own company, while at the > same time still

emitting " greenhouse "

> gases into the atmosphere himself. > Gore is a charlatan and carbon

> credits are a hoax. I wish that someone > would start arguing the

> whole issue of " global warming " and natural climatic > cycles that

the

> Earth goes through. > > > > I am a disbeliever in the issue

of " global

> warming " as it is being > communicated by people like Gore. > Gore

> Slams Canada's New Climate Plan as a " Fraud " > > TORONTO,

> Ontario,

> Canada, April 29, 2007 - Former U.S. Vice President Al > Gore has

> created a furor in Canada over the Conservative Government's new >

> plan to impose mandatory greenhouse gas emissions targets on

> industry.

> The > plan supercedes Canada's legally binding commitments under

> the

> Kyoto > Protocol. > > >>Read Full Text . http://www.ens- >

> <http://www.ens- newswire. com/ens/apr2007/ 2007-04-29- 02.asp> >

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