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most of what I have seen in autism has some connections with what you have

observed, but consider the following.

Everyone here is asleep. so forgive my mistakes in typing in the dark. Every

child with autism seems to be somewhat different.There are of course, many

factors in common. My daughter, for example, also sets very rigid rules for

those who play with her, and there is some frustration when others can not meet

these goals. however, she does not relate to others not liking her. People are

like objects to her. When a car does not start, we are angry. When we can not

read directions on putting a child's toy together, we grow frustrated. Others

are there for autistic children to utilize, or so it would seem. They do not

wonder why they are not accepted. It is of no importance. Autistic children

may well not answer those who talk first to them. Why answer a book you have

not chosen to read. Please do not confuse " too smart " with proof of no autism.

My daughter taught herself algebra in the last few weeks, but she is clearly

autistic. Your youngest seems to warrent

further evaluation. Sorry if I'm not being PC. Just trying to be honest.

Best I can do for you for now I'm afraid. Good luck and enjoy the beauty of

being a parent.

Joy wrote:

New here

My nephew has Aspergers. Upon learning about this it has made me

wonder about my children. Maybe I am worry too much. However my

youngest was speech delayed. They once wondered if she had Autism.

However now that she can talk they say she interacts too mcuh. I

often wonder though. She is 3.5 and just started really talking in

sentances. In public she shuts down. She refuses to talk to people. I

often tell people she is just shy. However deep with in I wonder. She

also has this blank stare too. When she does something wrong and you

ask her why she did that or tell her to say she is sorry for hurting

another child, she will just stare this blank stare. No one will take

it seriously and they say she is fine. Developmentaly she is right

where she should be and was too smart for Jeep program. A program

that takes special needs preschool. She tested out of the program

even though teachers where worried about her at first. Once she got

to know them she talked. That is how she is she won't talk to others

out side her comfort zone. She acts so much like my nephew its

scarey. She sneaks into things. She has chewed up her bed. Literaly

chewed the wood like a puppy. She is destructive too. she will break

things and riped the wall paper off the wall in her room. In church

she refuses to interact with the other children. She won't sing or

participate. But at home she sings the songs just fine.

Now then for my next Oldest Daughter she has always been smart. We

never worried about her at all tell now. She has always been clumsy.

However she also has fine moter skill problems and can't cut with

scissors she is 8 years old. After several tests because she can't

read. I am finding out she has auditory processing disorder and

sensory intergration and we worry because she has a hard time making

friends. She was very shy as a kid too. She still can be. She is very

emotional and although she don't throw huge fits she does cry a lot

in frustration of not making friends. If some one doesn't fit her

mold then she won't be friends with them. Also she picks a friend and

is friends with the same person for years. She will be hurt if that

friend then has other friends. She will complain they don't like her.

Basicly what they are saying is that she can't process everything

like most kids. Something about a language impairment is why she

can't read and struggles with it.

I want to find out more about Girls with Autism. I am very courious

with my girls having so many symptoms. Maybe I worry too much but I

do want to know. Anyone with any info to contribute would be great.

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most of what I have seen in autism has some connections with what you have

observed, but consider the following.

Everyone here is asleep. so forgive my mistakes in typing in the dark. Every

child with autism seems to be somewhat different.There are of course, many

factors in common. My daughter, for example, also sets very rigid rules for

those who play with her, and there is some frustration when others can not meet

these goals. however, she does not relate to others not liking her. People are

like objects to her. When a car does not start, we are angry. When we can not

read directions on putting a child's toy together, we grow frustrated. Others

are there for autistic children to utilize, or so it would seem. They do not

wonder why they are not accepted. It is of no importance. Autistic children

may well not answer those who talk first to them. Why answer a book you have

not chosen to read. Please do not confuse " too smart " with proof of no autism.

My daughter taught herself algebra in the last few weeks, but she is clearly

autistic. Your youngest seems to warrent

further evaluation. Sorry if I'm not being PC. Just trying to be honest.

Best I can do for you for now I'm afraid. Good luck and enjoy the beauty of

being a parent.

Joy wrote:

New here

My nephew has Aspergers. Upon learning about this it has made me

wonder about my children. Maybe I am worry too much. However my

youngest was speech delayed. They once wondered if she had Autism.

However now that she can talk they say she interacts too mcuh. I

often wonder though. She is 3.5 and just started really talking in

sentances. In public she shuts down. She refuses to talk to people. I

often tell people she is just shy. However deep with in I wonder. She

also has this blank stare too. When she does something wrong and you

ask her why she did that or tell her to say she is sorry for hurting

another child, she will just stare this blank stare. No one will take

it seriously and they say she is fine. Developmentaly she is right

where she should be and was too smart for Jeep program. A program

that takes special needs preschool. She tested out of the program

even though teachers where worried about her at first. Once she got

to know them she talked. That is how she is she won't talk to others

out side her comfort zone. She acts so much like my nephew its

scarey. She sneaks into things. She has chewed up her bed. Literaly

chewed the wood like a puppy. She is destructive too. she will break

things and riped the wall paper off the wall in her room. In church

she refuses to interact with the other children. She won't sing or

participate. But at home she sings the songs just fine.

Now then for my next Oldest Daughter she has always been smart. We

never worried about her at all tell now. She has always been clumsy.

However she also has fine moter skill problems and can't cut with

scissors she is 8 years old. After several tests because she can't

read. I am finding out she has auditory processing disorder and

sensory intergration and we worry because she has a hard time making

friends. She was very shy as a kid too. She still can be. She is very

emotional and although she don't throw huge fits she does cry a lot

in frustration of not making friends. If some one doesn't fit her

mold then she won't be friends with them. Also she picks a friend and

is friends with the same person for years. She will be hurt if that

friend then has other friends. She will complain they don't like her.

Basicly what they are saying is that she can't process everything

like most kids. Something about a language impairment is why she

can't read and struggles with it.

I want to find out more about Girls with Autism. I am very courious

with my girls having so many symptoms. Maybe I worry too much but I

do want to know. Anyone with any info to contribute would be great.

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Well first off Joy, it is nice to have you join us! I

can not write much right now as I am just about ready

to head off to get some sleep before somebody wakes

up. But to introduce myself: I am a stay of home, work

at home mom of 3 children all with High functioning

Autism. The two older ones are girls ages 6 and 4 and

the youngest is our son age 2.5.

The things you said about your 3.5 yr old daughter

sound almost just like my 4 year old. She has also

chewed her bed and torn off every last shred of

wallpaper, destroyed everything in the house and in

others houses. Destruction seems to be a common thing

amongst children with Autism, especially at a young

age.

Your older daughter sounds like she probably does not

have regular full blown autism to be able to be

concerned about her friends and express her feelings

as well as she is, but sounds very much like she could

have Aspergers.

However I do not want to be the one to judge without

knowing more details, because I have been having some

stupid specialists telling me that my son may no

longer be considered Autistic, because he is learning

to talk too well, and they are not around him to see

everything else he does or doesn't do. So I do not

want to be telling you things I do not know about the

way this lady does to me.

Both of your children do sound like they may have some

things to get help on, and definately not to just let

slide. I would be concerned if I was there mom too, so

you have the right to be concerned. You are there mom

and God gave you the responsability and right to

inspiration for your children and to have that " Mommy

Gut " feeling and know when something is not right.

Good luck with things and talk to you more later,

DOn't freak out too much though as this is a long

process of learning and it is not like there is

anything you have to do right now, that you haven't

already done. Loving them, and seeking knowledge and

truth and support and strength to help them learn and

grow and you be a better mom is all you can do really

and that takes time. So get some much needed rest,

" I'm sure " and lots more of us will respond tomorrow.

Sincerely, Esther

--- Joy wrote:

> New here

>

> My nephew has Aspergers. Upon learning about this it

> has made me

> wonder about my children. Maybe I am worry too much.

> However my

> youngest was speech delayed. They once wondered if

> she had Autism.

> However now that she can talk they say she interacts

> too mcuh. I

> often wonder though. She is 3.5 and just started

> really talking in

> sentances. In public she shuts down. She refuses to

> talk to people. I

> often tell people she is just shy. However deep with

> in I wonder. She

> also has this blank stare too. When she does

> something wrong and you

> ask her why she did that or tell her to say she is

> sorry for hurting

> another child, she will just stare this blank stare.

> No one will take

> it seriously and they say she is fine.

> Developmentaly she is right

> where she should be and was too smart for Jeep

> program. A program

> that takes special needs preschool. She tested out

> of the program

> even though teachers where worried about her at

> first. Once she got

> to know them she talked. That is how she is she

> won't talk to others

> out side her comfort zone. She acts so much like my

> nephew its

> scarey. She sneaks into things. She has chewed up

> her bed. Literaly

> chewed the wood like a puppy. She is destructive

> too. she will break

> things and riped the wall paper off the wall in her

> room. In church

> she refuses to interact with the other children. She

> won't sing or

> participate. But at home she sings the songs just

> fine.

>

> Now then for my next Oldest Daughter she has always

> been smart. We

> never worried about her at all tell now. She has

> always been clumsy.

> However she also has fine moter skill problems and

> can't cut with

> scissors she is 8 years old. After several tests

> because she can't

> read. I am finding out she has auditory processing

> disorder and

> sensory intergration and we worry because she has a

> hard time making

> friends. She was very shy as a kid too. She still

> can be. She is very

> emotional and although she don't throw huge fits she

> does cry a lot

> in frustration of not making friends. If some one

> doesn't fit her

> mold then she won't be friends with them. Also she

> picks a friend and

> is friends with the same person for years. She will

> be hurt if that

> friend then has other friends. She will complain

> they don't like her.

> Basicly what they are saying is that she can't

> process everything

> like most kids. Something about a language

> impairment is why she

> can't read and struggles with it.

>

> I want to find out more about Girls with Autism. I

> am very courious

> with my girls having so many symptoms. Maybe I worry

> too much but I

> do want to know. Anyone with any info to contribute

> would be great.

>

>

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Well first off Joy, it is nice to have you join us! I

can not write much right now as I am just about ready

to head off to get some sleep before somebody wakes

up. But to introduce myself: I am a stay of home, work

at home mom of 3 children all with High functioning

Autism. The two older ones are girls ages 6 and 4 and

the youngest is our son age 2.5.

The things you said about your 3.5 yr old daughter

sound almost just like my 4 year old. She has also

chewed her bed and torn off every last shred of

wallpaper, destroyed everything in the house and in

others houses. Destruction seems to be a common thing

amongst children with Autism, especially at a young

age.

Your older daughter sounds like she probably does not

have regular full blown autism to be able to be

concerned about her friends and express her feelings

as well as she is, but sounds very much like she could

have Aspergers.

However I do not want to be the one to judge without

knowing more details, because I have been having some

stupid specialists telling me that my son may no

longer be considered Autistic, because he is learning

to talk too well, and they are not around him to see

everything else he does or doesn't do. So I do not

want to be telling you things I do not know about the

way this lady does to me.

Both of your children do sound like they may have some

things to get help on, and definately not to just let

slide. I would be concerned if I was there mom too, so

you have the right to be concerned. You are there mom

and God gave you the responsability and right to

inspiration for your children and to have that " Mommy

Gut " feeling and know when something is not right.

Good luck with things and talk to you more later,

DOn't freak out too much though as this is a long

process of learning and it is not like there is

anything you have to do right now, that you haven't

already done. Loving them, and seeking knowledge and

truth and support and strength to help them learn and

grow and you be a better mom is all you can do really

and that takes time. So get some much needed rest,

" I'm sure " and lots more of us will respond tomorrow.

Sincerely, Esther

--- Joy wrote:

> New here

>

> My nephew has Aspergers. Upon learning about this it

> has made me

> wonder about my children. Maybe I am worry too much.

> However my

> youngest was speech delayed. They once wondered if

> she had Autism.

> However now that she can talk they say she interacts

> too mcuh. I

> often wonder though. She is 3.5 and just started

> really talking in

> sentances. In public she shuts down. She refuses to

> talk to people. I

> often tell people she is just shy. However deep with

> in I wonder. She

> also has this blank stare too. When she does

> something wrong and you

> ask her why she did that or tell her to say she is

> sorry for hurting

> another child, she will just stare this blank stare.

> No one will take

> it seriously and they say she is fine.

> Developmentaly she is right

> where she should be and was too smart for Jeep

> program. A program

> that takes special needs preschool. She tested out

> of the program

> even though teachers where worried about her at

> first. Once she got

> to know them she talked. That is how she is she

> won't talk to others

> out side her comfort zone. She acts so much like my

> nephew its

> scarey. She sneaks into things. She has chewed up

> her bed. Literaly

> chewed the wood like a puppy. She is destructive

> too. she will break

> things and riped the wall paper off the wall in her

> room. In church

> she refuses to interact with the other children. She

> won't sing or

> participate. But at home she sings the songs just

> fine.

>

> Now then for my next Oldest Daughter she has always

> been smart. We

> never worried about her at all tell now. She has

> always been clumsy.

> However she also has fine moter skill problems and

> can't cut with

> scissors she is 8 years old. After several tests

> because she can't

> read. I am finding out she has auditory processing

> disorder and

> sensory intergration and we worry because she has a

> hard time making

> friends. She was very shy as a kid too. She still

> can be. She is very

> emotional and although she don't throw huge fits she

> does cry a lot

> in frustration of not making friends. If some one

> doesn't fit her

> mold then she won't be friends with them. Also she

> picks a friend and

> is friends with the same person for years. She will

> be hurt if that

> friend then has other friends. She will complain

> they don't like her.

> Basicly what they are saying is that she can't

> process everything

> like most kids. Something about a language

> impairment is why she

> can't read and struggles with it.

>

> I want to find out more about Girls with Autism. I

> am very courious

> with my girls having so many symptoms. Maybe I worry

> too much but I

> do want to know. Anyone with any info to contribute

> would be great.

>

>

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Joy,

I have a daughter that was diagnosed when she was 6. I had to

keep telling the doctors there is something wrong and they would tell

me the same thing she is fine she will catch up. Well my daughter is 8

and can not read and can only write what is on the paper. She has a

hard time with numbers.

The suggestion I can give you is maybe change doctors and even see

a peditartic neurologist. That is who I got to finally diagnose my

daughter. Do you live in Michigan?

Dawn

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Joy,

I have a daughter that was diagnosed when she was 6. I had to

keep telling the doctors there is something wrong and they would tell

me the same thing she is fine she will catch up. Well my daughter is 8

and can not read and can only write what is on the paper. She has a

hard time with numbers.

The suggestion I can give you is maybe change doctors and even see

a peditartic neurologist. That is who I got to finally diagnose my

daughter. Do you live in Michigan?

Dawn

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Hello and welcome. I am a mother of 4, 2 boys with ASD and 2 girls, 1

with ASD. In getting my children diagnosed it has been pretty

different. My oldest was a no brainer...lining up toys didn't talk

until he was 3 ish and covered his ears at everything with the

slightest noise. He's very affectionate which threw many docs through

a loop due to the typical not wanting to be touched ideas of the time.

He is very bright academically and now can express his feelings. The

doctors and specialist told me he would be in special classes forever

and he is fully included with success. My second boy was just

diagnosed at 6 and since he has the OT he needs he has been doing

well. His dignosis was a surprise since he hit all of his basic

milestones on time, but I was comparing him with his brother and so,

he " looked normal " to me. My 4 year old daughter picks up some of the

Autistic behaviors around the house but when she is at school she is

just like the other kids. She hit her milestones early and is just a

sassy little girl.

Now living with Autism in my family and being a special ed teacher for

13 years, my 2.5 year old daughter showed signs early. We drove across

the country from Madison, WI to Portland, OR when she was 5 months old

and she only cried once. She would sit and just look at everybody. She

didn't smile until she was 3 months old and even then it was rare. She

didn't walk until she was 1.5 years old and showed little interest in

doing so. We got lots of OT, PT and Speech for over a year and then

they made the formal dignosis 2 months ago. She is talking, she shows

emotion appropriately (most of the time) and having an older sister

who was not effected helped in her learning social skills. She is

doing so well... Intelligence, well she picks up everything and at 2.5

years old she plays computer games with ease, knows her colors,

shapes, numbers and letters. She has fixated on them so much that she

will drill these concepts over and over by herself. So, intelligence

can be there in a strong way. Have your girls assessed it is your

right and the sooner the better.

Sorry my letter is so long. If you have this feeling do it. It is to

the benefit of your girls.

Sincerely,

Teresia

>

> New here

>

> My nephew has Aspergers. Upon learning about this it has made me

> wonder about my children. Maybe I am worry too much. However my

> youngest was speech delayed. They once wondered if she had Autism.

> However now that she can talk they say she interacts too mcuh. I

> often wonder though. She is 3.5 and just started really talking in

> sentances. In public she shuts down. She refuses to talk to people. I

> often tell people she is just shy. However deep with in I wonder. She

> also has this blank stare too. When she does something wrong and you

> ask her why she did that or tell her to say she is sorry for hurting

> another child, she will just stare this blank stare. No one will take

> it seriously and they say she is fine. Developmentaly she is right

> where she should be and was too smart for Jeep program. A program

> that takes special needs preschool. She tested out of the program

> even though teachers where worried about her at first. Once she got

> to know them she talked. That is how she is she won't talk to others

> out side her comfort zone. She acts so much like my nephew its

> scarey. She sneaks into things. She has chewed up her bed. Literaly

> chewed the wood like a puppy. She is destructive too. she will break

> things and riped the wall paper off the wall in her room. In church

> she refuses to interact with the other children. She won't sing or

> participate. But at home she sings the songs just fine.

>

> Now then for my next Oldest Daughter she has always been smart. We

> never worried about her at all tell now. She has always been clumsy.

> However she also has fine moter skill problems and can't cut with

> scissors she is 8 years old. After several tests because she can't

> read. I am finding out she has auditory processing disorder and

> sensory intergration and we worry because she has a hard time making

> friends. She was very shy as a kid too. She still can be. She is very

> emotional and although she don't throw huge fits she does cry a lot

> in frustration of not making friends. If some one doesn't fit her

> mold then she won't be friends with them. Also she picks a friend and

> is friends with the same person for years. She will be hurt if that

> friend then has other friends. She will complain they don't like her.

> Basicly what they are saying is that she can't process everything

> like most kids. Something about a language impairment is why she

> can't read and struggles with it.

>

> I want to find out more about Girls with Autism. I am very courious

> with my girls having so many symptoms. Maybe I worry too much but I

> do want to know. Anyone with any info to contribute would be great.

>

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Hello and welcome. I am a mother of 4, 2 boys with ASD and 2 girls, 1

with ASD. In getting my children diagnosed it has been pretty

different. My oldest was a no brainer...lining up toys didn't talk

until he was 3 ish and covered his ears at everything with the

slightest noise. He's very affectionate which threw many docs through

a loop due to the typical not wanting to be touched ideas of the time.

He is very bright academically and now can express his feelings. The

doctors and specialist told me he would be in special classes forever

and he is fully included with success. My second boy was just

diagnosed at 6 and since he has the OT he needs he has been doing

well. His dignosis was a surprise since he hit all of his basic

milestones on time, but I was comparing him with his brother and so,

he " looked normal " to me. My 4 year old daughter picks up some of the

Autistic behaviors around the house but when she is at school she is

just like the other kids. She hit her milestones early and is just a

sassy little girl.

Now living with Autism in my family and being a special ed teacher for

13 years, my 2.5 year old daughter showed signs early. We drove across

the country from Madison, WI to Portland, OR when she was 5 months old

and she only cried once. She would sit and just look at everybody. She

didn't smile until she was 3 months old and even then it was rare. She

didn't walk until she was 1.5 years old and showed little interest in

doing so. We got lots of OT, PT and Speech for over a year and then

they made the formal dignosis 2 months ago. She is talking, she shows

emotion appropriately (most of the time) and having an older sister

who was not effected helped in her learning social skills. She is

doing so well... Intelligence, well she picks up everything and at 2.5

years old she plays computer games with ease, knows her colors,

shapes, numbers and letters. She has fixated on them so much that she

will drill these concepts over and over by herself. So, intelligence

can be there in a strong way. Have your girls assessed it is your

right and the sooner the better.

Sorry my letter is so long. If you have this feeling do it. It is to

the benefit of your girls.

Sincerely,

Teresia

>

> New here

>

> My nephew has Aspergers. Upon learning about this it has made me

> wonder about my children. Maybe I am worry too much. However my

> youngest was speech delayed. They once wondered if she had Autism.

> However now that she can talk they say she interacts too mcuh. I

> often wonder though. She is 3.5 and just started really talking in

> sentances. In public she shuts down. She refuses to talk to people. I

> often tell people she is just shy. However deep with in I wonder. She

> also has this blank stare too. When she does something wrong and you

> ask her why she did that or tell her to say she is sorry for hurting

> another child, she will just stare this blank stare. No one will take

> it seriously and they say she is fine. Developmentaly she is right

> where she should be and was too smart for Jeep program. A program

> that takes special needs preschool. She tested out of the program

> even though teachers where worried about her at first. Once she got

> to know them she talked. That is how she is she won't talk to others

> out side her comfort zone. She acts so much like my nephew its

> scarey. She sneaks into things. She has chewed up her bed. Literaly

> chewed the wood like a puppy. She is destructive too. she will break

> things and riped the wall paper off the wall in her room. In church

> she refuses to interact with the other children. She won't sing or

> participate. But at home she sings the songs just fine.

>

> Now then for my next Oldest Daughter she has always been smart. We

> never worried about her at all tell now. She has always been clumsy.

> However she also has fine moter skill problems and can't cut with

> scissors she is 8 years old. After several tests because she can't

> read. I am finding out she has auditory processing disorder and

> sensory intergration and we worry because she has a hard time making

> friends. She was very shy as a kid too. She still can be. She is very

> emotional and although she don't throw huge fits she does cry a lot

> in frustration of not making friends. If some one doesn't fit her

> mold then she won't be friends with them. Also she picks a friend and

> is friends with the same person for years. She will be hurt if that

> friend then has other friends. She will complain they don't like her.

> Basicly what they are saying is that she can't process everything

> like most kids. Something about a language impairment is why she

> can't read and struggles with it.

>

> I want to find out more about Girls with Autism. I am very courious

> with my girls having so many symptoms. Maybe I worry too much but I

> do want to know. Anyone with any info to contribute would be great.

>

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I appreciate all the replies so far. I guess looking into audtitory processing

its on the spectrum of Autism but is not considered Autism. But with my oldest I

am not sure. What it could be. No one takes us serious with her tell just now

anyway. As far as some one said not being too smart. I totaly know about that.

My nephew can tell you how far away the moon is from the earth but not zip his

pants. He is so so smart in some ways. It blows you away.

I am not sure how to get my youngest screened for it. It seems like with a

girl no one takes you seriously. Many people will say that she will out grow it.

Or that she is going through her terrable twos later. I don't know. But I really

appreciate the insight so far.

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