Re: Dairy products and acne

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one of the ladies in our group had acne until she started drinking REAL MILK, back about July, or so. she wrote a bit of testimonial about it ... she looks very good now, mid 40s

my guess is that the remains of the bacteria which are killed off by pasteurization are the problem in commercial dairy products. Acne is the body expelling is that filth

Take a look at photos of teenagers at the turn of the century / 1920s and 30s. They don't have acne. My mom and her siblings were raised on milk from thier own cows ... more beautiful, clear-skinned faces / wide dental arches, you will never see. Proof that Weston A Price was correct

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>> I have come across several articles stating that consuming dairy products > can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. Any comments? I have > had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk cheese and butter but > do not have access to raw milk at this time, although I consume very little > milk other that cream in my coffee.> > Would love any suggestions. Thanks!>

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Hi ,

Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor for

acne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acne

its a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores of

the skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop or

milk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which helped.

Greg

--- wrote:

> I have come across several articles stating that

> consuming dairy products

> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help.

> Any comments? I have

> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk

> cheese and butter but

> do not have access to raw milk at this time,

> although I consume very little

> milk other that cream in my coffee.

>

> Would love any suggestions. Thanks!

>

>

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I am a naturalist and herbalist. I have study this a lot considering that I have 4 children (who are now grown with children of their own). My children never had a problem with acne but all their friends did. Acne is basically a boil. As with all boils, it's the body's way of getting rid of an overload of toxins. If we eat most foods the way nature intended none of us would ever have to worry about it. But thanks to our great govt, most foods have additives such as synthetic hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and preservatives. Our body sees all of these as toxins. When we have an over abundance of them it must come out some way. the best course of action is to eat an all natural organic diet, but we all know how hard and expensive that is. So the next is to make sure your body is getting the proper nutrients and to detox to get rid of the toxins.TerriGreg Shafer

wrote: Hi ,Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor foracne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acneits a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores ofthe skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop ormilk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which helped.Greg--- wrote:> I have come across several articles stating that> consuming dairy products> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. > Any comments? I have> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk> cheese and butter but > do not have access to raw milk at this time,> although I consume very little > milk other that cream in my coffee.> > Would love any suggestions. Thanks!> > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppingPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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I am a naturalist and herbalist. I have study this a lot considering that I have 4 children (who are now grown with children of their own). My children never had a problem with acne but all their friends did. Acne is basically a boil. As with all boils, it's the body's way of getting rid of an overload of toxins. If we eat most foods the way nature intended none of us would ever have to worry about it. But thanks to our great govt, most foods have additives such as synthetic hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and preservatives. Our body sees all of these as toxins. When we have an over abundance of them it must come out some way. the best course of action is to eat an all natural organic diet, but we all know how hard and expensive that is. So the next is to make sure your body is getting the proper nutrients and to detox to get rid of the toxins.TerriGreg Shafer

wrote: Hi ,Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor foracne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acneits a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores ofthe skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop ormilk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which helped.Greg--- wrote:> I have come across several articles stating that> consuming dairy products> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. > Any comments? I have> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk> cheese and butter but > do not have access to raw milk at this time,> although I consume very little > milk other that cream in my coffee.> > Would love any suggestions. Thanks!> > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppingPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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I am a naturalist and herbalist. I have study this a lot considering that I have 4 children (who are now grown with children of their own). My children never had a problem with acne but all their friends did. Acne is basically a boil. As with all boils, it's the body's way of getting rid of an overload of toxins. If we eat most foods the way nature intended none of us would ever have to worry about it. But thanks to our great govt, most foods have additives such as synthetic hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and preservatives. Our body sees all of these as toxins. When we have an over abundance of them it must come out some way. the best course of action is to eat an all natural organic diet, but we all know how hard and expensive that is. So the next is to make sure your body is getting the proper nutrients and to detox to get rid of the toxins.TerriGreg Shafer

wrote: Hi ,Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor foracne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acneits a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores ofthe skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop ormilk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which helped.Greg--- wrote:> I have come across several articles stating that> consuming dairy products> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. > Any comments? I have> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk> cheese and butter but > do not have access to raw milk at this time,> although I consume very little > milk other that cream in my coffee.> > Would love any suggestions. Thanks!> > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppingPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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Dear Greg, & Group:

I am sorry, but I cannot let this one go by without commenting. The

doctor that advised Greg does not know anything about nutrition (No surprise

here). It is not the chocolate, it is the sugar in the chocolate, and in other

junk the folks out there drink/eat. And it is not the milk, if it is fresh RAW

milk, without hormones and antibiotics. Pasteurized and Homogenized milk is an

ANTI-NUTRIENT (In other words: Garbage).

Acne is a sign of poor nutritional health, main contributing factors

being a state of Dysbiosis, and a lack of essential minerals such as Magnesium

and Zinc. I have to assume you (Greg & ) are not aware of the “Curse

Of Pasteur.” Please look it up, and you will find out that it is the “Terrain.”

Not a deficiency of topical antibiotic.

Best wishes.

Johan

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Subject: Re: Dairy

products and acne

Hi ,

Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor for

acne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acne

its a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores of

the skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop or

milk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which helped.

Greg

--- <angelacollisonhotmail>

wrote:

> I have come across several articles stating that

> consuming dairy products

> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help.

> Any comments? I have

> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk

> cheese and butter but

> do not have access to raw milk at this time,

> although I consume very little

> milk other that cream in my coffee.

>

> Would love any suggestions. Thanks!

[Guest guest]

I too have had acne since I was a teenager (am 42 now). It was never so bad as to be a REAL problem, but the acne has never went away. It seems to go through cycles through the month and from month to month. It really does a number on my self image - it's very embarrasing to have acne, especially when one is health conscious and other people know it and yet you "look" so unhealthy, on your skin at least.

I'm pretty sure acne is somehow related to hormonal activity, yet my acne is hard to "predict", some weeks and months it's better than others. I also think diet plays a role, and that maybe sugar is a major offender. Stress also seems to bring it on.

I have raw milk in the fridge but am not a big milk drinker. I drink it in my coffee in the morning. I don't think milk plays a role in my acne problems.

Recently, I had a terrible outbreak. This has been going on for the past couple months. It was very persistent, and just when a "crop" of acne was clearing up, it wasn't a day or two later that a new crop was forming. (crop= a bunch of acne) It was really bad along my jaw line, for some reason, but I have gotten acne all over my face at times.

I did some research on some various health related yahoo lists I'm on (looking at archives), and came up with several things to try to beat my acne down.

Here's what I've done:

1 - Started making and drinking kombucha. I just love it. I probably drink about 2 cups a day. I also make and drink my own kefir from raw milk, but drink it much less frequently than kombucha.

2- Started drinking a green smoothie every day for breakfast. It feels very satisfying to me every time I drink it, like I know I'm doing my self a whole lot of good. A typical smoothie for me is a handful of frozen blueberries or strawberries, 1/2 banana, 1 kiwi, handful of baby spinach, 1 tsp. flax oil, 2 tsp. coconut oil, 1/2 cup kombucha and a little more water. Look here for more info: http://www.emaxhealth.com/14/1182.html

3- Greatly reduced my consumption of wheat products. I've made a real conscious effort to stop eating bread - even soaked or sprouted bread. Cut out pasta, etc..

4- Am drinking Monavie every day, two times a day. Contact me privately if you want more info about that.

5- Take 1-2 tsp. cod liver oil every day

Those are the main changes I've made and I've really been pleased so far. I can really tell that "something" I'm doing is right, my face is really clearing up and no new acne is forming. (I'm down to about 2 spots on my face that are almost gone - that is HUGE!)

I hope this information is helpful.

Karin

>I have come across several articles stating that consuming dairy productscan cause acne and that eliminating them will help. Any comments? I havehad acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk cheese and butter but do not have access to raw milk at this time, although I consume very little milk other that cream in my coffee.Would love any suggestions. Thanks! >>

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" I have come across several articles stating that consuming dairy

products can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. "

Here are my thought based on my experiences only.

I has acne as a teenager and still do, my sister did not. I was

allergic to store milk and when raw became illegal in CA, I stopped

eating it except as ice cream. My sister always had nice skin.

Now, I have my own raw goat milk and when my son visits the

grandparents, I just drink milk. My skin always looks fabulous after

those 2 weeks. I still have a sweet tooth though so my acne comes back.

In my diet, it's not the milk giving me acne.

-Jenn

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My wife has been studying natural health care approaches for years. One of the things she learned was that persons who have acute acne usually have a very acidic system. As our foods are digested, some of them cause our system to become acidic and some alkaline. An acid-alkaline food chart will show that meat and dairy products make us acidic whereas raw fruits and vegetables in general cause us to become alkaline.

When I first came across this chart I thought of it as just another encumbrance to keep us from the freedom to eat as we pleased; especially since many of the foods I like were in the acidic column. Then I learned that cancer must have an acidic environment in order to grow. It also thrives on sugar. I have heard and read many testimonies of people who overcame what they were told was terminal cancer by using raw fruits and vegetables and going vegetarian. I believe the reason for their success is that they gave their bodies good nutrition and an alkaline environment.

I am not a vegetarian and I don't plan to become one. I don't believe I will ever get cancer, but should that ever happen, I know that I will quickly do whatever it takes to make my system alkaline.

I believe that raw dairy products, grass fed meats, and eggs from free range chickens are a tremendous and delicious source of nutrition for most people, but I also believe we should balance these foods with some alkaline foods for best health.

Sadly, the less people know about nutrition and natural health, the greater the economic opportunity for the pharmaceutical and medical industries.

Cleve

Re: Dairy products and acne

I am a naturalist and herbalist. I have study this a lot considering that I have 4 children (who are now grown with children of their own). My children never had a problem with acne but all their friends did. Acne is basically a boil. As with all boils, it's the body's way of getting rid of an overload of toxins. If we eat most foods the way nature intended none of us would ever have to worry about it. But thanks to our great govt, most foods have additives such as synthetic hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and preservatives. Our body sees all of these as toxins. When we have an over abundance of them it must come out some way. the best course of action is to eat an all natural organic diet, but we all know how hard and expensive that is. So the next is to make sure your body is getting the proper nutrients and to detox to get rid of the toxins.TerriGreg Shafer <gregshafer77> wrote:

Hi ,Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor foracne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acneits a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores ofthe skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop ormilk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which helped.Greg--- wrote:> I have come across several articles stating that> consuming dairy products> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. > Any comments? I have> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk> cheese and butter but > do not have access to raw milk at this time,> although I consume very little > milk other that cream in my coffee.> > Would love any suggestions. Thanks!> > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppingPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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I have 12 children. All of whom were raised on raw milk. When I hear of a docter saying that diet has little or no influence on acne, I just shake my head because it is just the opposite! Eight of my children are going or have gone through the adolescent stage in their life. They lived in a house where they were not allowed to eat junk, because Mom didn't provide it. But because they are kids, they will eat it. I finally realized that there is nothing I can do about it. But I can keep providing foods that help cut down the craving for junk foods. The kids that decide to eat junk more, are more prone to acne. Period. Since we as a "free people" cannot rely on common sense anymore,(including some my wonderful children!), than we must educate ourselves. My husband is a biblical nutritionist. He taught me years ago that everything we need to eat and/or heal is found when

you study scriptures. How awesome that we already have a "maintentance manuel". By the way, those kids have eaten so well their whole lives that they immediately feel the effects of the sugar. Interesting God Bless, Barb K Cleve wrote: My wife has been studying natural health care approaches for years. One of the things she learned was that persons who have acute acne usually have a very acidic

system. As our foods are digested, some of them cause our system to become acidic and some alkaline. An acid-alkaline food chart will show that meat and dairy products make us acidic whereas raw fruits and vegetables in general cause us to become alkaline. When I first came across this chart I thought of it as just another encumbrance to keep us from the freedom to eat as we pleased; especially since many of the foods I like were in the acidic column. Then I learned that cancer must have an acidic environment in order to grow. It also thrives on sugar. I have heard and read many testimonies of people who overcame what they were told was terminal cancer by using raw fruits and vegetables and going vegetarian. I believe the reason for their success is that they gave their bodies good nutrition and an alkaline environment.

I am not a vegetarian and I don't plan to become one. I don't believe I will ever get cancer, but should that ever happen, I know that I will quickly do whatever it takes to make my system alkaline. I believe that raw dairy products, grass fed meats, and eggs from free range chickens are a tremendous and delicious source of nutrition for most people, but I also believe we should balance these foods with some alkaline foods for best health. Sadly, the less people know about nutrition and natural health, the greater the economic opportunity for the pharmaceutical and medical industries. Cleve Re: Dairy products and acne I am a naturalist and herbalist. I have study this a lot considering that I have 4 children (who are now grown with children of their own). My children never had a problem with acne but all their friends did. Acne is basically a boil. As with all boils, it's the body's way of getting rid of an overload of toxins. If we eat most foods the way nature intended none of us

would ever have to worry about it. But thanks to our great govt, most foods have additives such as synthetic hormones, pesticides, herbicides, and preservatives. Our body sees all of these as toxins. When we have an over abundance of them it must come out some way. the best course of action is to eat an all natural organic diet, but we all know how hard and expensive that is. So the next is to make sure your body is getting the proper nutrients and to detox to get rid of the toxins.TerriGreg Shafer <gregshafer77> wrote: Hi ,Two years ago I took my daughter to the doctor foracne. He assured me that diet isn't the cause of acneits a bacterial infection that ggets into the pores ofthe skin. He said its not chocolate or soda pop ormilk. He presribed a topical anti biotic which

helped.Greg--- wrote:> I have come across several articles stating that> consuming dairy products> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. > Any comments? I have> had acne since I was a teenager. We get raw milk> cheese and butter but > do not have access to raw milk at this time,> although I consume very little > milk other that cream in my coffee.> > Would love any suggestions. Thanks!> > ____________________________________________________________________________________Looking for last minute shopping deals? Find them fast with Yahoo! Search. http://tools.search.yahoo.com/newsearch/category.php?category=shoppingPLEASE BE KIND AND TRIM YOUR POSTS WHEN REPLYING!Visit our Raw Dairy Files for a wealth of

information!http://groups.yahoo.com/group/RawDairy/files/Archive search: http://onibasu.com

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much talk of dairy and acne. IMO and experience when i have had an outbreak of acne it was over a period of a year and a half and that was medicinally induced (lovely side effect of medicine i was taking at the time) or has been caused by great stress (as i have been having at work the last two weeks). so don't forget to include these two factors. =-)

ro

Re: Dairy products and acne

"I have come across several articles stating that consuming dairyproducts can cause acne and that eliminating them will help."Here are my thought based on my experiences only.I has acne as a teenager and still do, my sister did not. I wasallergic to store milk and when raw became illegal in CA, I stoppedeating it except as ice cream. My sister always had nice skin.Now, I have my own raw goat milk and when my son visits thegrandparents, I just drink milk. My skin always looks fabulous afterthose 2 weeks. I still have a sweet tooth though so my acne comes back.In my diet, it's not the milk giving me acne.-Jenn

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much talk of dairy and acne. IMO and experience when i have had an outbreak of acne it was over a period of a year and a half and that was medicinally induced (lovely side effect of medicine i was taking at the time) or has been caused by great stress (as i have been having at work the last two weeks). so don't forget to include these two factors. =-)

ro

Re: Dairy products and acne

"I have come across several articles stating that consuming dairyproducts can cause acne and that eliminating them will help."Here are my thought based on my experiences only.I has acne as a teenager and still do, my sister did not. I wasallergic to store milk and when raw became illegal in CA, I stoppedeating it except as ice cream. My sister always had nice skin.Now, I have my own raw goat milk and when my son visits thegrandparents, I just drink milk. My skin always looks fabulous afterthose 2 weeks. I still have a sweet tooth though so my acne comes back.In my diet, it's not the milk giving me acne.-Jenn

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> I have come across several articles stating that consuming dairy

products

> can cause acne and that eliminating them will help. Any comments?

Dairy doesn't per se cause acne. Food intolerances/allergies cause

acne. Get yourself tested for allergies or start eliminating different

items from your diet.

In my case, wheat and peanut oil are the 2 biggies that cause acne.

Also, taking a supplement like flaxseed oil seems to help my skin in

general.