Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 , <Ok, I think I heard here (or in NT or somewhere) that cilanto chelates (I know I spelled that wrong LOL) mercury and pulls it out of your body. But someone I talked to recently said that while it does mobilize the mercury, it doesn't actually remove it, you need to take something else to remove it from the body. I've heard this (needing something else) about other detoxifiers, but not about cilantro. I believe the person (doctor?) who discovered this aspect of cilantro did so because he found mercury in the urine of someone and connected it to the ingestion of cilantro. If it's in the urine, it is definitely being excreted from the body. I have been using cilantro in large quantites in my daily juicing--on a week, off a week--to detox large quantities of mercury from my brain. When I started,. I often found areas of my scalp becomming extremely sensitive or painful. I no longer have these flareups, but I don't know exactly why. Several things have changed since I began: 1) I stopped eating wild blueberries (which I think also detoxifies mercury), 2) I began using clay as a shampoo to speed up detoxification and eliminate the pain, and 3) it may be that I have already eliminated most or all of the mercury already (though I somehow don't think so as I still feel depressed a lot of the time.) http://www.taichi4seniors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Hi , The research you are looking for was done by Dr Y Omura. He discovered that cilantro does indeed chelate Mercury. I have been using his methods for a year now. It took about 6 mos to clean me up of the Mercury. I created a blog that consists of eight pages of articles on the topics of Mercury chelation, Dr Y Omura's research and CFS/FMS. The Dr Omura articles are sprinkled throughout the eight pages starting at page 1. http://www.curezone.com/blogs/f.asp?f=59 & p=1 I have since been banned from updating my blog due to my strong feelings about chelating SLOWLY to avoid problems mentally and emotionally. Someone else on the same site suggested that people eat far too much cilantro (in my opinion) and I objected to that advice strongly and so I was banned from posting there anymore. Many people use the fresh cilantro. I hate the taste and was fortunate to find a Dr who studies with Dr Omura and so I was able to get the cilantro pills Dr Omura has manufactured. However, it is important to note that Dr Omura makes it pretty clear that it is not just a matter of chelating with cilantro - there are other factors to be considered such as the fact that when Mercury is chelated, other hidden infections are also released when the Mercury is mobilized therefore, cilantro isn't the only treatment. I am taking 1000 mg EPA (fish oil) X 4 daily and also as I was chelating, I would alternate between cilantro and various antibiotics to deal with the infections and yeasts that Mercury chelation releases. Also, Dr Omura has perfected an " uptake method " that improves the effectiveness of these medications. The " uptake method " is mostly massaging certain accupressure points on the hands, or simply rubbing the palms togther for several minutes when you take the dose. I do not know how to locate other Dr's who study Dr Omura's methods. I do know of people who have called Dr Omura but he doesn't keep a list of Dr's who attend his workshops and was unhelpful. So, in summary, I would definbately agree that cilantro is an effective chelator of heavy metals, but I would only take about a tsp. of the stuff fresh, per day, for about a week and then rest a week, always taking the fish oil to control virus. On my blog there are all the articles I could find on Dr Omura's work. Cheers, *Sue* > Ok, I think I heard here (or in NT or somewhere) that cilanto chelates (I know I spelled that wrong LOL) mercury and pulls it out of your body. But someone I talked to recently said that while it does mobilize the mercury, it doesn't actually remove it, you need to take something else to remove it from the body. What would that be? And if cilantro DOES remove it, can someone point me int he right direction for some reasurch on it? Thanks. > > > Mrs. Siemens > Wife to (6 years) > Mommy to Zachary (4), Lydia (1), and Jordan (waiting for us in heaven) > > field Christian Fellowship > > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 > Re: cilantro mercury connection > >I've heard this (needing something else) about other detoxifiers, but not >about cilantro. I believe the person (doctor?) who discovered this aspect >of cilantro did so because he found mercury in the urine of someone and >connected it to the ingestion of cilantro. If it's in the urine, it is >definitely being excreted from the body. , AFAIK, cilantro doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. Few things do. Alpha lipoic acid is one of them. DMSA is controversial. Some say it does, some say it doesn't. I follow Andy CUtler's chelation protocol. He recommends against using cilantro as a chelator as he says there's no solid evidence that it removes Hg from the body, although it does *mobilize* it within the body. It's possible it just moves it from place to place. DMSA actually removes it from the body though. I'm on several Hg chelation lists and have never seen any confirmation that cilantro crosses the BB barrier. FWIW. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- “The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times.” -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 1, 2005 Report Share Posted June 1, 2005 Suze, Thanks for the information. As I said, I'm not sure how to assess what I've experienced in the last few months, and now I'm not sure how this further information impacts on my understanding of that experience. One of the things I wonder now is if the cilantro could possibly have an effect on mercury without passing the blood-brain barrier. That is, whether there might be a " middleman " at work here. Or whether the clay I use on my scalp could be pulling the mercury out without itself being absorbed into the body. Oh well, this isn't the only area where I am working somewhat blind, depending on faith as much as understanding. Also, I do have mercury elsewhere in my body (again, high amounts) and am hoping the cilantro does me good there. http://www.taichi4seniors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hi Suze, I am sorry but you are mistaken about cilantro - it does indeed cross the blood/brain barrier. Dr Omura writes about it and I can attest to it in practice. He found that only cilantro and ALA do. Chelation isn't a fun ride, especially when chelating Mercury from the brain. Certain chelation side effects however, such as hallucinations, are undeniable. *S* > > Re: cilantro mercury connection > > > > >I've heard this (needing something else) about other detoxifiers, but not > >about cilantro. I believe the person (doctor?) who discovered this aspect > >of cilantro did so because he found mercury in the urine of someone and > >connected it to the ingestion of cilantro. If it's in the urine, it is > >definitely being excreted from the body. > > , > > AFAIK, cilantro doesn't cross the blood-brain barrier. Few things do. Alpha > lipoic acid is one of them. DMSA is controversial. Some say it does, some > say it doesn't. I follow Andy CUtler's chelation protocol. He recommends > against using cilantro as a chelator as he says there's no solid evidence > that it removes Hg from the body, although it does *mobilize* it within the > body. It's possible it just moves it from place to place. DMSA actually > removes it from the body though. I'm on several Hg chelation lists and have > never seen any confirmation that cilantro crosses the BB barrier. > > FWIW. > > Suze Fisher > Lapdog Design, Inc. > Web Design & Development > http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg > Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine > http://www.westonaprice.org > > ---------------------------- > " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause > heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- > Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt > University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. > > The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics > <http://www.thincs.org> > ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Janice, Thanks for your post and the links. I was interested to learn that chelating mercury could involve, not only some mental and emotional problems, but also infections, esp. yeast infections. I think I've been dealing with the release of a very low-grade vaginal or uterine infection since I started on the cilantro. You said it took you about 6 mos. to " clean up " from mercury. What kind of test did you take before and after your cilantro program? http://www.taichi4seniors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 So sorry, Sue. My last post I addressed to Janice was meant for you! http://www.taichi4seniors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Hi, AS described in the links I posted earlier, we used the Bi Digital O ing testing method developed by Dr Omura. I later confirmed that I was clear of Mercury with my Naturopath. It is possible that you are experiencing yeasts and bacteria while chelating. Be sure to take your EPA/DHA (fish oil) X 4 a day while taking cilanntro to help keep the bugs at bay. Dr Omura's method is not JUST cilantro - it involves the EPA as well as selective uptake methods to insure the medications get to where they need to. Hmm.. I posted a message that doesn't seem to have made it... Sorry Suze, you are mistaken about that information. Cilantro does indeed cross the Blood/Brain barrier. Dr Omura found that only cilantro and ALA do. Cheers, *S* > So sorry, Sue. My last post I addressed to Janice was meant for you! > > > http://www.taichi4seniors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 > One of the things I wonder now is if the cilantro > could possibly have an effect on mercury without > passing the blood-brain barrier. Some people say that if you pull mercury out of the body (not the brain), then a shift can happen... mercury can move out of the brain and into the body. So, the chelating agent does not have to cross the BBB in order pull mercury out of the brain. Dan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Dan, <Some people say that if you pull mercury out of the body (not the brain), then a shift can happen... mercury can move out of the brain and into the body. So, the chelating agent does not have to cross the BBB in order pull mercury out of the brain. Wow! I would never have imagined a scenario like this. For some strange reason, it makes me want to laugh, not at the idea, but with delight at the possibility. The body is really an incredible thing. http://www.taichi4seniors.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 > Hi Suze, > I am sorry but you are mistaken about cilantro - it does indeed > cross the blood/brain barrier. Dr Omura writes about it and I can > attest to it in practice. He found that only cilantro and ALA do. Hi Sue, Can you offer any evidence of this claim? > Chelation isn't a fun ride, especially when chelating Mercury from > the brain. Certain chelation side effects however, such as > hallucinations, are undeniable. > *S* I guess I've been for tunate in that i've had nothinng but some bad stools as side effects. Suze Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 2, 2005 Report Share Posted June 2, 2005 Sometimes Google Scholar is useful for looking up stuff like this: Cilantro search on Google Scholar: http://tinyurl.com/aytsk Google Scholar home page: http://scholar.google.com/ Dan > > Hi Suze, > > I am sorry but you are mistaken about cilantro - it does indeed > > cross the blood/brain barrier. Dr Omura writes about it and I can > > attest to it in practice. He found that only cilantro and ALA do. > > Hi Sue, > Can you offer any evidence of this claim? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 3, 2005 Report Share Posted June 3, 2005 Hi Suze, Yes, there are a number of published documents by Dr Omura that address the issue of cilantro chelating across the blood/brain barrier. I am sure you can search as well as I can. Below is only one such article that I was able to find quickly. http://bdort.net/pdf/11thEngAbst.pdf <<snip>> When these viral infections are inhibited by the use of a mixture of EPA & DHA as effective, safe, anti-viral agent, and excessively deposited metals were removed from the brain by giving Cilantro to remove metals using " Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement Method " (developed by Omura, in early 1990s). <<snip>> but it is from 2001 - there are more recent articles out there, but personally, I am not about to go hunting for them to prove a point. You can do that if you choose. I have every document published by Omura that I have been able to obtain and while I have read them all, I haven't memorized them. In addition to the published works, I know that cilantro does cross the blood brain barrier because my Dr studies with Dr Omura, directly, and told me so. That is good enough for me. I get this information only once-removed from Dr Omura himself. Also, my own experience this last year on the Omura methods, proves it to me. I am now testing clean of Mercury and so I don't particularly care, anymore, as I know what to do about it, and it works for me. When I chelated with cilantro pills from Dr Omura, one of the first symptoms that clerared up was the " brain fog " . As time went by, many more mental functions also improved. I no longer suffered depression or anxiety and panic attacks. I regained emotional control. These are all brain functions that were improved or eliminated by chelation with cilantro. You can find other articles by Dr Omura at ther following locations: Scattered amongst 8 pages of my blog at: http://www.curezone.com/blogs/f.asp?f=59 & p=1 Also, from Source: Alternatives Date: June 1998, pages 91 - 92 Publisher: Mountain Home Publishing ISSN: 0893-5025 Author: G. , DC " " Title: The Poor Man's Chelation Therapy " Cilantro is an effective chelator of heavy metals. It crosses the blood-brain barrier. " Dr Omura's patent on the method: http://v3.espacenet.com/textdes? DB=EPODOC & IDX=JP10067672 & F=0 & QPN=JP10067672 Abstracts from various conferences on the method: http://bdort.net/en/abstracts.htm Announcements: http://oringtest.web.infoseek.co.jp/As/engindex.htm Abnormal Deposits of Metals, Decreased Acetylcholine and Infections in the Brain as Major Causes of Electromagnetic Field Hypersensitivity, Strong Negative (-) Qi, Pre-Alzheimer's Disease, Autism & Abnormal Mental or Motor Function in Children, and Their New Effective Treatment Using " Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement Method " Yoshiaki Omura, MD., Sc.D., F.A.C.A., F1.C.A.E. Director of Medical Research, Heart Disease Research Foundation; President, Int'l College of Acupuncture & Electrotherapeutics: Adjunct Prof., Dept. of Community & Preventive Medicine, New York Medical College; Prof., Dept. of Non-Orthodox Medicine, Ukrainian National Kiev Medical University (Correspondence:800 Riverside Dr (8-I), New York, NY10032, USA Tel: (212) 781-6262 ; FAX:(212) 923-2279) ABSTRACT While studying patients with Electromagnetic Field Hypersensitivity, Pre-Alzheimer's Disease as well as Autism and abnormal mental & motor function in children, the author found that the following findings are common among these patients: 1. A marked increase in metal deposits such as Al, Pb and Hg in the brain, particularly, the Hippocampus area or motor cortex (where abnormal motor function exists). 2. A marked decrease in Acetylcholine often reduced less than one fifth of normal concentration (the amount of Acetylcholine required to produce maximum Bi-Digital O-Ring Test Resonance was less than 500 ìg and often reduced to less than 350 ìg compared with the normal range of l500 ìg - 5000 ìg). 3. Viral infection with or without bacterial infection. 4. A strong negative (-) Qi. When excessive metal deposit of Al, Pb, & Hg exist in brain, they function as multiple micro-antenna and absorb environmental Electro- Magnetic Field and creates a micro- inflammation and reduce Acethylcholine in the surrounding nervous system. In the presence of infection, Acetylcholine further diminishes with localized circulatory disturbances with increased Thromboxane B2. The most common infections found in these patients were Cytomegalovirus, Human Herpes Virus Type 6, Chlamydia Trachomatis and Mycobacterium Tuberculosis. In addition, if the patient also has a headache in one side of the head, then the most common cause is Herpes Simplex Virus Type I, and occasionally Mycobacterium Tuberculosis can also create a headache in one side of the head. If a headache exists in both sides of the head, then usually one side of the head has a Herpes Simplex Virus Type I infection and the other side of the head has a Herpes Simplex Virus Type 2 infection. Less frequently, both sides of the head will have a Mycobacterium Tuberculosis infection which causes a headache in both sides of the head. For all of these viruses, mixture of EPA and DHA in a gelatin capsule is very effective. For Chlamydia Trachomatis, both Azithromycin and Doxycycline are very effective, but only Doxycycline is compatible with mixture of EPA & DHA. When these viral infections are inhibited by the use of a mixture of EPA & DHA as effective, safe, anti-viral agent, and excessively deposited metals were removed from the brain by giving Cilantro to remove metals using " Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement Method " (developed by Omura, in early 1990s to selectively deliver the effective medication to the pathological area, by stimulating accurate brain organ representation area with acupuncture or other means at the 1st distal segment of the middle fingers, corresponding to the pathologic area of the brain), Acetylcholine often markedly increased with decreased (-) Qi and significant improvement of memory and other brain functions and behavior within 1-2 days. If additional bacterial infection such as Chlamydia Trachomatis co- exist, to get further improvement, Doxycline was given together with mixture of EPA & DHA using " Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement Method " without Cilantro as Doxycycline and Cilantro cancel each other's effects. But if additional Mycobactrium Tuberculosis infections co-exists, both Isoniazid and Rifampin, which are effective for Mycobactrium Tuberculosis, cancel the effects of EPA & DHA, as well as the effect of Doxycycline, and therefore these medications cannot be given together. However, in the early 1990s, the author found the Saiko-Keishito (Tsumura No.10) is compatible with EPA +DHA as well as Doxycycline. Therefore, this combination of EPA & DHA and Saiko-Keishito is also successfully used for simultaneous treatment of cancer with coexisting Mycobacterium Tuberculosis with alternative use of a combination of EPA & DHA, Cilantro and Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement Method. By giving the compatible effective medications Selective Dug Uptake Enhancement, often significant improvements were obtained within a few days of treatment. The therapeutic effect was further enhanced and accelerated by taking a hot shower or a hot bath and doing Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement about 30 minutes after taking these effective and compatible medications. One of the major factors inhibiting drug uptake is wearing underwear or wearing metals such as earrings, necklaces, watches and bracelets, which produce a strong negative Bi-Digital O-Ring Test. Even if the underwear is O- Ring Test positive, if the label on the underwear is not removed, then drug uptake will be significantly inhibited because almost all labels are strong O-Ring Test negative. Also, the crossing of the hands or legs also inhibits drug uptake. Therefore, in order to obtain excellent therapeutic results using effective medication and Selective Drug Uptake Enhancement Method, all the factors that inhibit drug uptake have to be eliminated. > Hi Sue, > Can you offer any evidence of this claim? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 16, 2005 Report Share Posted June 16, 2005 Greetings, This thread has got me thinking - Cilantro is used extensively in Indian cooking and most of our meals are sprinkled with Cilantro (lentils, curry, literally everything). However, my wife is breast feeding our 8 mo old daughter. If cilantro chelates mercury, it would most likely end up in breast milk, wouldn't it? Now, my wife has never been tested for mercury and we don't think there is an issue (no dental fillings, low consumption of seafood, etc.) but is there enough cause to stop using cilantro? -Pratick __________________________________________________ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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