Guest guest Posted January 24, 2012 Report Share Posted January 24, 2012 What is the 504 Plan? My daughter is in 5th grade and she is a top TAG student, so I haven't told her teacher that she has OCD symptoms. Should I? > > My son is in the 504 plan. He does NOT have to stand up and speak in front of class, he tells the teacher at his/her desk. He also is allowed extra time on test taking or can finish at the end of the day. I hope this helps. I would DEMAND it from the school that they accomodate your child in any way they can so that she can become successful. > > Pam L. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 If OCD isn't intefering at school, or with ability to do homework at home, etc., then no reason to tell the school. But a 504 Plan is for those with disabilities (which includes mental health) and need accommodations and/or modifications for school due to their disability. Some students qualify for/need an IEP (special education services) that can include everything a 504 would have in it too; but a 504 Plan can set up the accomm/modif if that is all that is needed. We had a 504 Plan for my son in middle & high schools due to his OCD and also his dysgraphia diagnosis. Simple explanation, hope it helped, > > What is the 504 Plan? My daughter is in 5th grade and she is a top TAG student, so I haven't told her teacher that she has OCD symptoms. Should I? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 So, if we have an IEP we don't need a 504? Re: 504 Plan If OCD isn't intefering at school, or with ability to do homework at home, etc., then no reason to tell the school. But a 504 Plan is for those with disabilities (which includes mental health) and need accommodations and/or modifications for school due to their disability. Some students qualify for/need an IEP (special education services) that can include everything a 504 would have in it too; but a 504 Plan can set up the accomm/modif if that is all that is needed. We had a 504 Plan for my son in middle & high schools due to his OCD and also his dysgraphia diagnosis. Simple explanation, hope it helped, > > What is the 504 Plan? My daughter is in 5th grade and she is a top TAG student, so I haven't told her teacher that she has OCD symptoms. Should I? > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 25, 2012 Report Share Posted January 25, 2012 If you have an IEP, you don't need a 504. You can have anything needed written in the IEP. For example, when OCD started, had just lost his IEP because he finally finished speech therapy. BUT if he had still been getting speech therapy, we could have just added all the stuff needed for him due to his OCD and dysgraphia to his IEP. > > > > What is the 504 Plan? My daughter is in 5th grade and she is a top TAG student, so I haven't told her teacher that she has OCD symptoms. Should I? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 28, 2012 Report Share Posted January 28, 2012 I remember talking about this. My son was in the IEP program for years up until 8th grade where myself and the entire special ed team decided he needed to be in the 504. He no longer qualified for the IEP and I needed him to be accomodated at the high-school so they switched. It has worked out very well for him in terms of time allowed for tests, presentations,etc. Hope this helps Pam L. > > > > What is the 504 Plan? My daughter is in 5th grade and she is a top TAG student, so I haven't told her teacher that she has OCD symptoms. Should I? > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Here is a hot off the presses new story about hat our wonderful 504 did for us: My son, age 15, has had perfectionism and test issues ( getting " stuck " on questions) in the past ( among other things). We last worked through this is 5th grade when he had testing accommodations, but he has been doing great the last several years and not using them, so when he entered high school we did not put them on his new plan. He has been doing great in high school on all levels with high honors both of the first 2 quarters but has never taken a midterm before and was not admitting to us how stressed out he was about it. On the first day of his first ever midterm, he had an exam in algebra and came to a part he got " stuck " on. Well, the teacher left the room for some period of time(???????) and guess what- he CHEATED by copying word for word, note in the margin for note in the margin off of a friends test. It basically looked like a xerox copy of the other kids test and was not hard to spot as cheating. Both of them were called to the office, admitted to the situation and were told they would have to retake the test and the best they could do was a 55%. Both of these kids are straight A students and the poor kid he got the answers from was an unsuspecting bystander of OCD caught in the crossfire. The assistant principal told me that he thought Quinn learned his lesson and that this would be the end of it and not to worry about it. I told him I GUARANTEE it will happen again because it was OCD that made him do it. Furthermore, I argued that the other kid should not be punished for falling victim to my kid's OCD and that it is the rare unsuspecting adult that knows how to handle a kid in the midst of an OCD freak out ( gave the example of how Quinn convinced a veteran bus driver to let him off the bus, and leave him alone in the middle of the road 3/4 of a mile from our house at the age of 11 because he was worried our dog was following the bus( no sign of the dog). I immediately called the 504 case manager to get new testing accommodations added for him which can also be used for SAT and ACT tests in the upcoming years. The school was great , totally believed that this was OCD and this was an example of it, let the other kid off the hook to a good degree ( does not need to retake test and just gets a grade reduction of 20%), and had a meeting with the involved teacher, Quinn, me and the 504 case manager to discuss how we can better support him in the future so this does not happen again. New accommodations include ability to take test in alternate environment with 504 case manager in room to help him get through tests- help him work throughout the problems, extra time on tests and teachers checking in with him during tests if he chooses not to take the test at an alternate location. We also added the ability to hand in research papers to check for plagiarism ( he has trouble leaving ANY THING out of a writing so can fall victim to plagiarism ) before handing them in to be graded. The school really listened and was very understanding about the whole thing and in hindsight I am VERY glad it happened and that it happened now. (not to mention that not getting straight A's will be a great exposure for him!). We also are forcing him to go back to therapy to work on this stuff which we have been wanting him to do for a while now, but he did not want to and was managing well and we let him choose. So, long story, but I love our 504. It is a document that is ever changing to the needs that arise at the time and given the changing face of OCD, it is important to have that protection. It also gives the teachers a heads up that " bad behavior " may not just be a bad kid making a bad choice but may be due to disease, and they have a little more sympathy for him. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Wow, glad the school listened and that you are able to get that put in 504 now. I do hate that the other kid still had to get a reduction in test grade, hope he doesn't hold a grudge, tho at least it's not as much thanks to you. Oh, to have it happen on mid-terms! Maybe son is now really motivated to work on it too. He's come so far already in this battle! > > Here is a hot off the presses new story about hat our wonderful 504 did for us: > > My son, age 15, has had perfectionism and test issues ( getting " stuck " on questions) in the past ( among other things). We last worked through this is 5th grade when he had testing accommodations, but he has been doing great the last several years and not using them, so when he entered high school we did not put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 30, 2012 Report Share Posted January 30, 2012 Wow, glad the school listened and that you are able to get that put in 504 now. I do hate that the other kid still had to get a reduction in test grade, hope he doesn't hold a grudge, tho at least it's not as much thanks to you. Oh, to have it happen on mid-terms! Maybe son is now really motivated to work on it too. He's come so far already in this battle! > > Here is a hot off the presses new story about hat our wonderful 504 did for us: > > My son, age 15, has had perfectionism and test issues ( getting " stuck " on questions) in the past ( among other things). We last worked through this is 5th grade when he had testing accommodations, but he has been doing great the last several years and not using them, so when he entered high school we did not put Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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