Re: Panama Re: milk & milk

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perfection is in the eyes of the beholder...

thanks to sesame street and auto-grammar/spell checking, English can be

sufficiently mastered for communication...

Well hello neighbor-to-the -south

what brings my interest in nutrition? Well, desire for HEALTH to go along with

my good looks and charming personality for one. :-)

Second, I'm working with a group to create a masterplanned sustainable

comprehensive community, and production of food and wellness of the community

members is basic.

SouthernLatitudes.org

Within this nutrition is primal. We wish to create cashflow from export of our

products and visitors that sample our lifestyle, and to get top dollar and

demand, one should have food beyond the normal... high brix, would be a place

to start.

Some of the procedures, such as cold bed agriculture and mineralization and

" homeopathy for the land " are also within the scope of interest towards this

end.

So, there you have it. Add to it that I have 4 young kids in my family, and

nieces and nephews that I care about just adds to the desire to master this

field as well.

So what brings YOU to the subject Brazil?

Panama Re: milk & milk

Hi Bob:

Eso es interesante. This is interesting. Never met anyone else from

Panama. But you are currently living somewhere else, aren't you? Your

English looks perfect.

Whence comes your interest in nutrition, if I may ask?

If it weren't for Colombia, our both countries (I am from Brazil)

would share a common borderline.

Hasta luego. So long.

José

> Hey I'm just reporting findings from google...I am not a biologist

nor nutritionist

>

>

> My name is Bob, I'm from Panama...what more can I say?

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[Guest guest]

well i have been around the English (as the Amish say) for sometime now, y a lo

mejor mi lengua materna no es tan fluido como debiera ser... pero en este mundo,

negocios han hecho del Ingles la idioma internacional... y es mejor dejarse

llevar con la corriente que tratar de convencer a todos que aprendan

Esperanto... o' Ruso, tovarich, o' Mandarin... aunque tal vez Mandarin seria

util para saber QUE carrajo estan diciendo los cocineros en los restaurantes

Chinos....

:-)

yes the Japanese method may be a bit more hand intensive than say Rodale group

practices, although it seems to have good results.

If instictotheraphy is what i think it is , there is a group looking to create a

" resort " or retreat, depending on how you think of it... basically walking

around and smelling things to see if it is appealing to eat... the idea being

that if your body wants the nutrient it will make it smell palatable,,,and if

you have your fill, the appealling smell will fade away to be replaced with

another desire... Sounds great. .. er, smells great :-)

Small? well the plan is to have many neighborhoods set up as hamlets per se....

kinda " Olmstead " in some concept (designer of NY central Park) except that

instead of having to do massive land engineering we will avail ourselves of more

'organic " design ala y (Falling Waters house) ...sprouting from the

site as appropriate. Integrated food growing throughout...vines growing

inthrough the kitchen windows and a " open " wall between the kitchen and the

garden... :-) In some way I guess the pick-what-you -want concept of continual

" grazing " as it might have been in the fantastical vision of Eden-plenty

environment.

Of course, in the tropics, we have more flexibility than the poor souls trapped

in an endless cycle of heat and freezing, rebirth (good) die-off (saddening).

But then , perhaps the cycles help deliniate the time, so that it all isnt one

LONG party :-) I guess that could get old being in perfection always...after

all. without some imperfect to compare, how would you know you are in the midst

of perfection...

:-)

Panama Re: milk & milk

> perfection is in the eyes of the beholder...

Maybe so. Actually, when I said your English looked perfect, what I

had in mind was that it looked as if English were your first

language, that you seemed to write it naturally, as if you had long

been acquainted with it. Maybe I have used the wrong word, because

personally I don't much like perfection...

>

> thanks to sesame street and auto-grammar/spell checking, English

can be sufficiently mastered for communication...

>

> Well hello neighbor-to-the -south

Oh, I am very much to the south. Around Rio de Janeiro. Sometimes we

get hit by cold waves from Patagonia, but most of the time the

weather is quite warm.

> what brings my interest in nutrition? Well, desire for HEALTH to

go along with my good looks and charming personality for one. :-)

>

Well, I can tell you that you have a charming personality for me. As

for looks, they are a consequence of what is going on inside, don't

you agree?

> Second, I'm working with a group to create a masterplanned

sustainable comprehensive community, and production of food and

wellness of the community members is basic.

>

> SouthernLatitudes.org

>

This sounds great. I hope you can stay small. Bigness unfortunately

leads in most cases to corruption. I will check out the site, ok?

>

> Within this nutrition is primal. We wish to create cashflow from

export of our products and visitors that sample our lifestyle, and to

get top dollar and demand, one should have food beyond the normal...

high brix, would be a place to start.

So we have a very modern approach, as I can see. Do you already have

a location?

>

> Some of the procedures, such as cold bed agriculture and

mineralization and " homeopathy for the land " are also within the

scope of interest towards this end.

Have you ever heard about Fukuoka, no-tilling agriculture? But I hope

you can stay away from instinctotherapy, because that is too radical

an approach (no use of fire, all-raw!).

>

> So, there you have it. Add to it that I have 4 young kids in my

family, and nieces and nephews that I care about just adds to the

desire to master this field as well.

I see. Having children makes a lot of difference. They give you an

ideal and perspective. But they can also rob you of some of your

energy: you can never really rest with children all around, can you?

>

>

> So what brings YOU to the subject Brazil?

Bob, that was a nice nickname. But I am afraid some people might

withdraw from me, because Brazilians don't often have a good

reputation in the world. So, what brings me here? Many things: an

interest in nutrition, in health issues, in global questions, in

making friends (though this may not be the right place for that), in

practising English, in hearing other points of view...

Nice to meet you. Encantado.

José

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>>> The trouble with English is that it is under the risk of becoming a

mosaic. It is getting more and more difficult to preserve its

original face. José >>

ooh. That's what I love about American English, the mosaic! While there are

certainly far more beautiful languages, (especially the Latin based ones!)

there is nothing like American English for it's ability to make a sort of

jazz out of expression. Not only does it welcome words from other languages

but it encourages invention: You can make up new entirely new words or

create words purely on the basis of its sound.. Not necessarily pretty but

very creative!

~Robin

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>The trouble with English is that it is under the risk of becoming a

>mosaic. It is getting more and more difficult to preserve its

>original face. Well, to a certain extent, this affects all major

>languages on earth, but English most of all.

Hee hee. English has ALWAYS been a mosaic! It is a mongrel

mix of Latin and Germanic languages, which is one reason

the spelling is so horrid (Spanish, French, and German are

all easy to spell: English is not! Because in English the

rules get mixed).

The fact it is so easy to mix English with some other

language and still be understandable is one

reason it has been adopted in many places. You can't

do that, with, say German or Chinese. In English the

word order is fluid, so Yoda can say " There is no try! "

and most people will still understand him.

> As I see it, any solution to feed people must include cultivation of

>crops, however detrimental agriculture is at present viewed by an

>increasing number of people. We must find ways to reduce the impact

>of intensive growing and re-introduce sustainable hunting and

>gathering. Both trends should co-exist.

The Permaculture movement, and the " small farm " movement,

both really reduce the impact of farms on the environment.

Backyard chickens too. In our city, most houses actually have

enough " yard " to grow a fair bit of food. Most such yards are

growing grass (which is mowed by lawnmowers every weekend,

fueled by petrol) and ornamentals. But there has been a movement

toward bringing back farm animals into the cities. Where I live,

the empty fields are now sprouting steer and horses, and people

are herding alpaca and emu too! I gather probably 100 lbs of berries

a year from our yard, and buy vegies that are grown by a farmer

down the hill. Two more " farmers markets " have started this

year, and people do shop there for their local produce during

the summer. Our farmer grows greens in a greenhouse all

winter, and we started our own greenhouse this year.

>It is a long way until things start to change. How long can we still

>afford to wait?

It IS changing, at least in Seattle. Granted we are one

of the more " progressive " parts of the US, but a lot

of trends that start here migrate!

A bigger issue, to me, is that the US has exported most

of it's worst habits to the " developing world " and they are

adopting those habits with avengence. The population

density is a lot higher in some of those places, and they

are a lot more at risk than we are in Seattle, which is really

not so densely populated.

-- Heidi Jean