Self Intro - DeeDee - Petaluma, CA

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DeeDee Medeiros

MedeirosDairy@...

Sonoma County, CA

My husband and I milk 100 holstein cows. We are certified organic and sell our milk to a nationwide coop. We are interested in doing some packaging and selling of our own dairy products and would like to consider raw products.

I have seen and purchased raw dairy products at our local health food store, but it is very uncommon.

My husband and I have both lived on dairies for our whole lives, so raw milk has been a natural part of life. My concern in selling raw milk and raw milk products is the declining health of people in general. Are their immune systems strong enough to handle a product that has not been completely sanitized (pasteurized) for them? Especially the children...

Thank you,

DeeDee

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the scenario you suggest is what mainstream dairy farmers are terrified of ... a portion of industrial milk being sold out the farm gate, raw. Illness is to be expected and it will reflect badly on the entire milk industry

Start with the concept that there are two kinds of raw milk in North America - that which is produced by industrial conditions, such as confinement dairies with hundreds of cows, and which uses unnatural amounts of grain to maximize milk quantity for the mass market of uneducated consumers. Versus raw milk which is produced for consumers who want the best, by farmers who know how to treat cows so as to get the best quality REAL MILK

the raw milk produced by agribusiness is not fit for human consumption ; it has to be cooked to neutralize all the harmful bacteria in it which are a result of stressed-out unhealthy cows. Raw milk produced for the fluid REAL MILK market is far cleaner to start with

My advice? You'll have a hard time doing both with the same methods of dairying. What you should do is have a completely separate raw milk operation, and sell that product at the farm gate. Raw dairying is MUCH more profitable in the long run. You can gradually get out of agribusiness and back to farming as it was meant to be

when he was here speaking to us, Mark McAfee said his rule of thumb is that a cow in milk will generate a gross income of $1500 per month at $10 per gallon

So will you make more money with 100 cows, at ?? per hundredweight - and that dependant upon what the bureacrazies in Washington DC will give you this month - or will you make more net income milking 12 cows, and a list of shareholders whom you know by name?

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-- In RawDairy , "Medeiros Dairy" wrote:>> DeeDee Medeiros> MedeirosDairy@...> Sonoma County, CA> > My husband and I milk 100 holstein cows. We are certified organic and sell our milk to a nationwide coop. We are interested in doing some packaging and selling of our own dairy products and would like to consider raw products.> > I have seen and purchased raw dairy products at our local health food store, but it is very uncommon.> > My husband and I have both lived on dairies for our whole lives, so raw milk has been a natural part of life. My concern in selling raw milk and raw milk products is the declining health of people in general. Are their immune systems strong enough to handle a product that has not been completely sanitized (pasteurized) for them? Especially the children...> > Thank you,> > DeeDee>

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the scenario you suggest is what mainstream dairy farmers are terrified of ... a portion of industrial milk being sold out the farm gate, raw. Illness is to be expected and it will reflect badly on the entire milk industry

Start with the concept that there are two kinds of raw milk in North America - that which is produced by industrial conditions, such as confinement dairies with hundreds of cows, and which uses unnatural amounts of grain to maximize milk quantity for the mass market of uneducated consumers. Versus raw milk which is produced for consumers who want the best, by farmers who know how to treat cows so as to get the best quality REAL MILK

the raw milk produced by agribusiness is not fit for human consumption ; it has to be cooked to neutralize all the harmful bacteria in it which are a result of stressed-out unhealthy cows. Raw milk produced for the fluid REAL MILK market is far cleaner to start with

My advice? You'll have a hard time doing both with the same methods of dairying. What you should do is have a completely separate raw milk operation, and sell that product at the farm gate. Raw dairying is MUCH more profitable in the long run. You can gradually get out of agribusiness and back to farming as it was meant to be

when he was here speaking to us, Mark McAfee said his rule of thumb is that a cow in milk will generate a gross income of $1500 per month at $10 per gallon

So will you make more money with 100 cows, at ?? per hundredweight - and that dependant upon what the bureacrazies in Washington DC will give you this month - or will you make more net income milking 12 cows, and a list of shareholders whom you know by name?

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-- In RawDairy , "Medeiros Dairy" wrote:>> DeeDee Medeiros> MedeirosDairy@...> Sonoma County, CA> > My husband and I milk 100 holstein cows. We are certified organic and sell our milk to a nationwide coop. We are interested in doing some packaging and selling of our own dairy products and would like to consider raw products.> > I have seen and purchased raw dairy products at our local health food store, but it is very uncommon.> > My husband and I have both lived on dairies for our whole lives, so raw milk has been a natural part of life. My concern in selling raw milk and raw milk products is the declining health of people in general. Are their immune systems strong enough to handle a product that has not been completely sanitized (pasteurized) for them? Especially the children...> > Thank you,> > DeeDee>

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Hi DeeDee,

Welcome to RawDairy. I'm new to the group also and also am a certified

organic grower in Sonoma County but not of animals yet.

I think we are all victims of the government's and broad dairy

industry's fear tactics regarding sanitized food. You are partially

right in that the general population is so much more susceptible and

vulnerable because of it's lack of exposure to micro organisms. But I

believe the remedy is exposure to the healthy m.o.s as what you and

your husband have grown up with.

Good luck with your exploration of raw; I hope you do it commercially.

Lou

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> DeeDee Medeiros

> MedeirosDairy@...

> Sonoma County, CA

>

> My husband and I milk 100 holstein cows. We are certified organic

and sell our milk to a nationwide coop. We are interested in doing

some packaging and selling of our own dairy products and would like to

consider raw products.

>

> I have seen and purchased raw dairy products at our local health

food store, but it is very uncommon.

>

> My husband and I have both lived on dairies for our whole lives, so

raw milk has been a natural part of life. My concern in selling raw

milk and raw milk products is the declining health of people in

general. Are their immune systems strong enough to handle a product

that has not been completely sanitized (pasteurized) for them?

Especially the children...

>

> Thank you,

>

> DeeDee

>

[Guest guest]

Hi DeeDee,

Welcome to RawDairy. I'm new to the group also and also am a certified

organic grower in Sonoma County but not of animals yet.

I think we are all victims of the government's and broad dairy

industry's fear tactics regarding sanitized food. You are partially

right in that the general population is so much more susceptible and

vulnerable because of it's lack of exposure to micro organisms. But I

believe the remedy is exposure to the healthy m.o.s as what you and

your husband have grown up with.

Good luck with your exploration of raw; I hope you do it commercially.

Lou

>

> DeeDee Medeiros

> MedeirosDairy@...

> Sonoma County, CA

>

> My husband and I milk 100 holstein cows. We are certified organic

and sell our milk to a nationwide coop. We are interested in doing

some packaging and selling of our own dairy products and would like to

consider raw products.

>

> I have seen and purchased raw dairy products at our local health

food store, but it is very uncommon.

>

> My husband and I have both lived on dairies for our whole lives, so

raw milk has been a natural part of life. My concern in selling raw

milk and raw milk products is the declining health of people in

general. Are their immune systems strong enough to handle a product

that has not been completely sanitized (pasteurized) for them?

Especially the children...

>

> Thank you,

>

> DeeDee

>

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Thats the Horrible Conndrum! the more DEAD Dairy they Eat the lower thier Imune systems will get untill it gets to where the smallest Bacterial infections are Fatal to over 505 of those exposed!

Give the Children Raw Milk NOW before it is too late!

To: RawDairy From: medeirosdairy@...Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2007 14:18:18 -0800Subject: Self Intro - DeeDee - Petaluma, CA

DeeDee Medeiros

MedeirosDairy@...

Sonoma County, CA

My husband and I milk 100 holstein cows. We are certified organic and sell our milk to a nationwide coop. We are interested in doing some packaging and selling of our own dairy products and would like to consider raw products.

I have seen and purchased raw dairy products at our local health food store, but it is very uncommon.

My husband and I have both lived on dairies for our whole lives, so raw milk has been a natural part of life. My concern in selling raw milk and raw milk products is the declining health of people in general. Are their immune systems strong enough to handle a product that has not been completely sanitized (pasteurized) for them? Especially the children...

Thank you,

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I buy raw dairy from a farmer in S.C. who sells mostly commercially but has a small side business selling raw milk to the public. He does spray for weeds every few years which worries many people. He says the cows will not eat weeds and there comes a time when he must spray. How do organic farmers get rid of weeds?

Thanks!

JP

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My experience is: Cows will and do eat weeds. Here we chop the big weeds down that the cows and goats don't eat. Those are only the Bull Thistle. Your farmer is probably killing weeds in the fence lines.

Jessi

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-----Original Message-----From: RawDairy [mailto:RawDairy ]On Behalf Of JPatienceSent: Thursday, December 13, 2007 7:25 AMTo: RawDairy Subject: Re: Self Intro - DeeDee - Petaluma, CA

I buy raw dairy from a farmer in S.C. who sells mostly commercially but has a small side business selling raw milk to the public. He does spray for weeds every few years which worries many people. He says the cows will not eat weeds and there comes a time when he must spray. How do organic farmers get rid of weeds?

Thanks!

JP