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like I said before the derivative arsenicum is a viable treatment.

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> From: " Gillian Rowe " <roweg@...>

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> Date: Sat, 26 Aug 2000 23:56:29 +0100

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> Subject: [ ] Bloodletting

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> Hi

> Hold it right there.

> Bloodletting, maggots and worms are all making a comeback! Maggots are the

> new treatment for stubborn leg ulcers that refuse to heal. Worms for Colitis

> and bloodletting in that condition where your mean cell volume is too large.

> Yes I admit they do not use leeches, just draw off a few pints of blood and

> then give them to you for your Rose Garden!

> Perhaps now is the TIME to look at old cures for Arthritis, as long as it is

> not Arsenic!

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> Love and God Bless

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Hi, Patty,

>Can anybody explain why I might be feeling so much better

after

>losing about 2 pints of blood?

There have been a lot of posts on hemochromatosis, but I want to bring out

another possibility. CFS often disturbs the autonomic nervous system, which

controls blood volume and pressure among other things. It is possible that

what you have is not a blood excess per se but a blood plasma excess (in

other words, the right number of red & white cells, but too much fluid.)

Given the range of " normal " values in lab values, this kind of imbalance

would be very hard to spot.

If that is the case, instead of drawing whole blood, you would be better off

having 'plasmapheresis' - whole blood removed, cells spun out and returned.

(I imagine that they could even do a cut to return a population enriched for

white cells.)

Either way, you might want to talk to your doc about getting on a diuretic,

to reduce fluid vollume without the need for continued blood draws.

Jerry

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>>Perhaps this was the wisdom behind regular bloodletting which would

reduce excess iron levels...or we could donate blood, avoid cast iron

pans and lots of red meat.

I've read that medically effective bloodletting occurred at the very beginning

of a fever, reducing iron levels as food for the pathogen. Because it's a

dramatic and highly symbolic act, it was also over- and improperly used to the

detriment of patients. I don't remember who or exactly when, but there was at

least one doctor of high repute writing against indiscriminate bloodletting and

specifying the onset-of-illness method.

Lending credibility to this possibility are that Arabic physicians, who were

altogether more sophisticated than most in the ancient and medieval worlds, used

bloodletting primarily for fevers; and that the few revivals of the practice

were also for fever - for instance, as low-tech treatment for tropical diseases

in situ.

Although there is so much else going on hormonally that it's impossible to say,

I am also very much less likely to get sick immediately after menstruating.

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> >>Perhaps this was the wisdom behind regular bloodletting which

would

> reduce excess iron levels...or we could donate blood, avoid cast

iron

> pans and lots of red meat.

>

> I've read that medically effective bloodletting occurred at the

very beginning of a fever, reducing iron levels as food for the

pathogen. Because it's a dramatic and highly symbolic act, it was

also over- and improperly used to the detriment of patients. I

don't remember who or exactly when, but there was at least one

doctor of high repute writing against indiscriminate bloodletting

and specifying the onset-of-illness method.

>

> Lending credibility to this possibility are that Arabic

physicians, who were altogether more sophisticated than most in the

ancient and medieval worlds, used bloodletting primarily for fevers;

and that the few revivals of the practice were also for fever - for

instance, as low-tech treatment for tropical diseases in situ.

>

> Although there is so much else going on hormonally that it's

impossible to say, I am also very much less likely to get sick

immediately after menstruating.

>

>

>

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