Re: Ayurveda in Brazil

[Guest guest]

Anyway, I was intrigued that I could be

> such a mixed type. Does anyone or have anything to say about my

> puzzle?

José ,

Your constitutional type = genetic imprint and was encoded at the

moment of conception, influenced by, among other things, the states of

mind and physical health of the parents. (This is why it is of utmost

importance to be of sound health and eat a special diet for making

babies as well as make love in appropriate surroundings/state of

mind.) The constitutional type (prakruti) is a unique composition of

the three doshas and can be read by the pulse--and other methods--by

an experienced practitioner. Say, for example, I am K3, P2, V1,

usually one dosha will be predominant. I have met people who are

tri-doshic, and rarely, people are equal parts two doshas or single

dosha; the numbers usually, but do not have to, add up to six. Even

if two people have the same composition of doshas, they will be

uniquely expressed physically and mentally. This equation is the goal

to reach/recover/maintain for optimal health.

Now, when people diverge from their prakruti, by dietary or other

lifetyle indiscretions, the equation changes, and this is also

discernable by the pulse. So a K3, P2, V1 distorts to a K2, P1, V3

and experiences signs/symptoms of imbalance. The thing is, the

Ayurvedic doctor who has mastered the pulse can read the derangement

levels as well as the underlying " true " type. (Actually, he or she

can read seven levels of the pulse.) So, it's a very individual way

of treating the patient and bringing them back to optimal health.

Thus, the patient doesn't receive blanket advice, like, " drink raw

milk " , or " take extra clo " , " make kim chi " , " take HCl " or " exercise

more and harder " , to repeat some of the common responses one hears.

The doctor (and the patient, if the patient is educated in the system)

knows which of these good foods/supplements/lifestyle adjustments are

helpful and which are not--which can actually be harmful and push them

further into imbalance.

You taking a quiz in the newspaper is not a very objective way to

diagnose yourself, and this is surely why you came up with such a

paradoxical result. If you are interested, you can find more

comprehensive self-quizzes that you can take but be aware that most

people are unable to be objective enough to come up with their

predominant prakruti. No one wants to check off the kapha traits, for

instance, because of cultural prejudice. (Although, being from

Brazil, you may not have those particular prejudices.) You take the

quiz twice, once to find out your constitutional type, and once to

identify your current imbalances.

B.

[Guest guest]

> Anyway, I was intrigued that I could be

> > such a mixed type. Does anyone or have anything to say

about my

> > puzzle?

>

> José ,

> Your constitutional type = genetic imprint and was encoded at the

> moment of conception, influenced by, among other things, the states

of

> mind and physical health of the parents. (This is why it is of

utmost

> importance to be of sound health and eat a special diet for making

> babies as well as make love in appropriate surroundings/state of

> mind.) The constitutional type (prakruti) is a unique composition of

> the three doshas and can be read by the pulse--and other methods--by

> an experienced practitioner. Say, for example, I am K3, P2, V1,

> usually one dosha will be predominant. I have met people who are

> tri-doshic, and rarely, people are equal parts two doshas or single

> dosha; the numbers usually, but do not have to, add up to six. Even

> if two people have the same composition of doshas, they will be

> uniquely expressed physically and mentally. This equation is the

goal

> to reach/recover/maintain for optimal health.

>

> Now, when people diverge from their prakruti, by dietary or other

> lifetyle indiscretions, the equation changes, and this is also

> discernable by the pulse. So a K3, P2, V1 distorts to a K2, P1, V3

> and experiences signs/symptoms of imbalance. The thing is, the

> Ayurvedic doctor who has mastered the pulse can read the derangement

> levels as well as the underlying " true " type. (Actually, he or she

> can read seven levels of the pulse.) So, it's a very individual way

> of treating the patient and bringing them back to optimal health.

> Thus, the patient doesn't receive blanket advice, like, " drink raw

> milk " , or " take extra clo " , " make kim chi " , " take HCl " or " exercise

> more and harder " , to repeat some of the common responses one hears.

> The doctor (and the patient, if the patient is educated in the

system)

> knows which of these good foods/supplements/lifestyle adjustments

are

> helpful and which are not--which can actually be harmful and push

them

> further into imbalance.

>

> You taking a quiz in the newspaper is not a very objective way to

> diagnose yourself, and this is surely why you came up with such a

> paradoxical result. If you are interested, you can find more

> comprehensive self-quizzes that you can take but be aware that most

> people are unable to be objective enough to come up with their

> predominant prakruti. No one wants to check off the kapha traits,

for

> instance, because of cultural prejudice. (Although, being from

> Brazil, you may not have those particular prejudices.) You take the

> quiz twice, once to find out your constitutional type, and once to

> identify your current imbalances.

> B.

Hi :

Thanks for the information. Now it makes sense. At first I thought

the types should be pure, you know.

Could you please direct me to a reliable site where I can take the

quizz?

I have a final question, or two maybe. Is Ayurveda only for the rich

classes of India? Not for the untouchable? In other words, is it an

elite medicine? If not, if it is available for all the people, no

matter what class they belong to, why doesn't India as whole display

a high level of health for its population? Or maybe we make a wrong

picture of India, and health there is not a problem, is it?

José

[Guest guest]

> I have a final question, or two maybe. Is Ayurveda only for the rich

> classes of India? Not for the untouchable? In other words, is it an

> elite medicine? If not, if it is available for all the people, no

> matter what class they belong to, why doesn't India as whole display

> a high level of health for its population? Or maybe we make a wrong

> picture of India, and health there is not a problem, is it?

José ,

Ayurveda is traditional, even folk, medicine--although it is also very

sophisticated. Actually outlawed by the British in 1835, it is only

now making a comeback in the last fifty years or so and is only one of

six medical systems recognized by the Indian government. It also must

compete with various indigenous healers of other modalities including

psychics, sorcerers and grandmothers. Even so, Indian medicine has

been strongly influenced by the west and most modern Ayurvedic doctors

are basically practicing allopathic medicine with a twist--and so it

is also being taught to students. Further, just because it's from

India doesn't mean that most/many Indians accredit, study, or practice

it for health. Neither is it the only traditional medicine in India.

Ayurveda is for anyone, of course. A major premise is that one can

practice self-care and maintain good health with a little knowledge of

the system; it puts the responsibility for optimal health--as well as

the consequences of poor food and lifestyle choices--right in the

hands of the individual.

B.

[Guest guest]

>

> > I have a final question, or two maybe. Is Ayurveda only for the

rich

> > classes of India? Not for the untouchable? In other words, is it

an

> > elite medicine? If not, if it is available for all the people, no

> > matter what class they belong to, why doesn't India as whole

display

> > a high level of health for its population? Or maybe we make a

wrong

> > picture of India, and health there is not a problem, is it?

>

> José ,

> Ayurveda is traditional, even folk, medicine--although it is also

very

> sophisticated. Actually outlawed by the British in 1835, it is only

> now making a comeback in the last fifty years or so and is only one

of

> six medical systems recognized by the Indian government. It also

must

> compete with various indigenous healers of other modalities

including

> psychics, sorcerers and grandmothers. Even so, Indian medicine has

> been strongly influenced by the west and most modern Ayurvedic

doctors

> are basically practicing allopathic medicine with a twist--and so it

> is also being taught to students. Further, just because it's from

> India doesn't mean that most/many Indians accredit, study, or

practice

> it for health. Neither is it the only traditional medicine in

India.

>

> Ayurveda is for anyone, of course. A major premise is that one can

> practice self-care and maintain good health with a little knowledge

of

> the system; it puts the responsibility for optimal health--as well

as

> the consequences of poor food and lifestyle choices--right in the

> hands of the individual.

> B.

:

Thank you for the further clarification. I want to come back to

something you wrote in your previous post. Here it is:

<< Your constitutional type = genetic imprint and was encoded at the

moment of conception, influenced by, among other things, the states of

mind and physical health of the parents. (This is why it is of utmost

importance to be of sound health and eat a special diet for making

babies as well as make love in appropriate surroundings/state of

mind.) >>

On the one hand, I find this to be very true. On the other hand, I

think that very few of us had such conscious and considerate parents.

In other words, I believe that very few parents, at least in the

past, had such profound preoccupations on their minds. To a certain

extent, most of us were conceived more or less at random.

Not denying the importance of conception, pregnancy, birth,

puerperium, childhood, etc, I would suggest that one's life is not

inextricably designed by those periods. There is always room for

*some* improvement and healing later. What will suffice for that?

Awareness, self-determination, and clear vision. This is my opinion.

And any healing system must shelter in its principles this ultimate

truth: very few of us were conceived and brought up in the ideal

conditions.

By the way, , you forgot to mention the Ayurveda site. Or maybe

you think I will be able to locate the good one on my own?

Cheers,

José