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Hello,

I am planning to use a harsch crock to make sauerkraut but before I

get started I would like to know how to clean the weights. Are they

porous? Do I have to soak them in something to sterilize them?

Also Heidi talked about using ramekins:

Porceline is as safe as

> you can get, btw, plus condiment cups would be made

> of certified clay and glazes (it's only low-fired bright-colored

> ceramic that has a problem with lead anyway, but they

> do test for that stuff nowadays, and my clay is cert

Could I use a creuset colored ramekin (if that I did not use the

crock)? If I were to call creuset what would I look for in the way of

certification - no lead in the glaze?

I know I am supposed to break the cabbage leaves in order to release

the juice but instead could I just juice the cabbage or a portion of

the cabbage to get the juice? It it a matter of getting some juice in

order to cover the vegetables or is it a matter of breaking each leaf

inorder to get it to turn to sauerkraut?

Thanks,

Gail

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>Gail:

>I am planning to use a harsch crock to make sauerkraut but before I

>get started I would like to know how to clean the weights. Are they

>porous? Do I have to soak them in something to sterilize them?

You can bake them in the oven to sterilize them if you feel the need. I just

wash them, sometimes with baking soda. Don't use soap or anything

antibiotic: clay absorbs stuff! The only issue I've found is: don't store them

in the crock. Wrap them in a towel so there is plenty of air circulation, and

keep

the lid of the crock up on something so air can get in. Otherwise, the residual

moisture can lead to mold growth.

>Could I use a creuset colored ramekin (if that I did not use the

>crock)? If I were to call creuset what would I look for in the way of

>certification - no lead in the glaze?

Anything made for food these days is lead free. Actually there were only a few

items that really caused lead poisoning even in the old days, mainly low-fired

clay items that were brightly colored. Stoneware is typically safe no matter

what, but the manufacturers are very careful these days. You can call

them to make sure.

>I know I am supposed to break the cabbage leaves in order to release

>the juice but instead could I just juice the cabbage or a portion of

>the cabbage to get the juice? It it a matter of getting some juice in

>order to cover the vegetables or is it a matter of breaking each leaf

>inorder to get it to turn to sauerkraut?

There is probably something to be said for breaking the cabbage, but the Korean

recipes don't require it. Actually once I forgot some cabbage while it was in

the

salting stage and it started to turn into kimchi just sitting there on the

counter! It will sour all on it's own ... the trick is to get the right amount

of

salt so it sours in a way that tastes good without being too salty (too much

salt and it just turns into " salted cabbage " with no sour). I tend to be lazy,

so rather than mashing the cabbage, I salt it to draw out the water (makes

for crispier kraut), then add brine to make sure it is submerged. Or make a

paste

and work the paste all over the kraut, depending on the desired result.

>

>----------

>

Heidi

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We were looking at crocks today because we love sauerkraut and I want

to put up a lot for this winter. Can we get by with just a plain 5

gallon ceramic crock or is the harsch crock that much better?

Lynn S.

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Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

http://www.deanspeaksforme.com * http://www.knitting911.net

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Hi Lynn,

I have not used the crock yet so I can't say. I tried to make kraut

with just glass jar and had no luck but I am sure that operator error

was a major contributing factor.

Gail

--- In , Lynn Siprelle <lynn@s...>

wrote:

> We were looking at crocks today because we love sauerkraut and I

want

> to put up a lot for this winter. Can we get by with just a plain 5

> gallon ceramic crock or is the harsch crock that much better?

>

> Lynn S.

>

> ------

> Lynn Siprelle * web developer, writer, mama, fiber junky

> http://www.siprelle.com * http://www.thenewhomemaker.com

> http://www.deanspeaksforme.com * http://www.knitting911.net

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>We were looking at crocks today because we love sauerkraut and I want

>to put up a lot for this winter. Can we get by with just a plain 5

>gallon ceramic crock or is the harsch crock that much better?

>

>Lynn S.

The problem with plain crocks, IME, is BUGS. If you don't have

a good seal, or a net or cloth over the whole mess, then all

those little fruit flies go straight for the kraut.

The Harsch crock doesn't get bugs.

Heidi Jean

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> We were looking at crocks today because we love sauerkraut and I want

> to put up a lot for this winter. Can we get by with just a plain 5

> gallon ceramic crock or is the harsch crock that much better?

>

Hi Lynn -

We have had a Harsch Crock for about 9 months now and really like it.

We have used it to make Sauerkraut, various varieties of kimchi, and

are looking forward to making pickles in it. We have not had any

problems with any batches of fermented veggies that we have made. I

think that it is much easier to use than a plain old crock as you

don't need to worry about bugs or skimming mold when fermenting veggies.

- Ann

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> So let me ask you harsch crockers this, then: When the ferment is done,

> do you then put it up in jars or just eat out of the crock?

>

> Lynn S.

>

Lynn -

We put ours in quart or 1/2-gallon jars. Just make sure you have

enough of the liquid in the jar to cover the veggies so that they do

not oxidize.

- Ann

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