Re: Trace minerals, fats, fat-soluble vitamins, magnesium, shellfish

[Guest guest]

Mike-

>However, as I understand it,

>shellfish don't have as much of the fat-soluble vitamins.

Scallops in cream sauce, shrimp in cream sauce, crabs in cream sauce... yum!

>Polar bear liver is deadly poisonous because of the high amounts of

>vitamin A. Vitamin D toxicity is well-known among people who

>supplement heavily.

I'm not so sure about that, actually. There's a WAPF article (I think it

was a WAPF article) somewhere that theorized that the toxicity of polar

bear liver is actually due to its extraordinarily high cadmium levels. And

while too much vitamin D can certainly cause problems when other

physiological factors are out of balance (e.g. too little absorbable

calcium in the diet) it's quite clear that healthy people got FAR more

vitamin D than modern Americans do.

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[Guest guest]

I have read that there are a number of different animals whose livers

are unsafe because of vitamin A toxicity. Furthermore, I read that

your body actually produces only so much vitamin D in sunlight before

starting to destroy some of it. I've never heard of anyone dying

from any food source because it contained too much calcium or too

much magnesium. Granted, some trace minerals are pretty toxic in

large amounts. It would be a simple experiment, anyway. Take the

same amount of Vitamin A that's in four ounces of polar bear liver,

and see what happens, right? We know cadmium can be dangerous.

mike

--- In , Idol <Idol@c...>

wrote:

> Mike-

>

> >However, as I understand it,

> >shellfish don't have as much of the fat-soluble vitamins.

>

> Scallops in cream sauce, shrimp in cream sauce, crabs in cream

sauce... yum!

>

> >Polar bear liver is deadly poisonous because of the high amounts of

> >vitamin A. Vitamin D toxicity is well-known among people who

> >supplement heavily.

>

> I'm not so sure about that, actually. There's a WAPF article (I

think it

> was a WAPF article) somewhere that theorized that the toxicity of

polar

> bear liver is actually due to its extraordinarily high cadmium

levels. And

> while too much vitamin D can certainly cause problems when other

> physiological factors are out of balance (e.g. too little

absorbable

> calcium in the diet) it's quite clear that healthy people got FAR

more

> vitamin D than modern Americans do.

>

>

>

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[Guest guest]

,

Are you talking about eating cream and shrimp together, or one after

the other? I eat usually 1-3 foods at a meal, one at a time, until

the taste change, althought I'm not an Instinctivore. I eat about

90% raw, about 10% cooked. I guess this isn't a forum for raw

foodism, although I think the case for eating raw, or at least, only

lightly-cooked, is pretty persuasive.

mike

--- In , Idol <Idol@c...>

wrote:

> Mike-

>

> >However, as I understand it,

> >shellfish don't have as much of the fat-soluble vitamins.

>

> Scallops in cream sauce, shrimp in cream sauce, crabs in cream

sauce... yum!

>

> >Polar bear liver is deadly poisonous because of the high amounts of

> >vitamin A. Vitamin D toxicity is well-known among people who

> >supplement heavily.

>

> I'm not so sure about that, actually. There's a WAPF article (I

think it

> was a WAPF article) somewhere that theorized that the toxicity of

polar

> bear liver is actually due to its extraordinarily high cadmium

levels. And

> while too much vitamin D can certainly cause problems when other

> physiological factors are out of balance (e.g. too little

absorbable

> calcium in the diet) it's quite clear that healthy people got FAR

more

> vitamin D than modern Americans do.

>

>

>

> -

[Guest guest]

Mike-

>I have read that there are a number of different animals whose livers

>are unsafe because of vitamin A toxicity.

Well, the prevailing wisdom is that vitamin A in any kind of meaningful

dose is toxic, so that's probably worth taking with a grain of salt.

>Furthermore, I read that

>your body actually produces only so much vitamin D in sunlight before

>starting to destroy some of it.

Any citations? That sounds interesting.

>I've never heard of anyone dying

>from any food source because it contained too much calcium or too

>much magnesium. Granted, some trace minerals are pretty toxic in

>large amounts. It would be a simple experiment, anyway. Take the

>same amount of Vitamin A that's in four ounces of polar bear liver,

>and see what happens, right? We know cadmium can be dangerous.

Well, yeah, cadmium can be dangerous, and that's what the article I was

referring to pointed out is present in dangerous quantities in polar bear

livers. True? I don't know, but it's definitely worth considering.

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[Guest guest]

Mike-

>Are you talking about eating cream and shrimp together, or one after

>the other? I eat usually 1-3 foods at a meal, one at a time, until

>the taste change, althought I'm not an Instinctivore. I eat about

>90% raw, about 10% cooked. I guess this isn't a forum for raw

>foodism, although I think the case for eating raw, or at least, only

>lightly-cooked, is pretty persuasive.

I'm talking about whatever you'd like. I cook shellfish, but plenty of raw

cream sauces can be prepared with minimal warming.

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