Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 My quick .02..I think the Delicious Living Mag should be used as fire-starter. If it is only an online mag, print it yourself, then use it as fire-starter. What " high-fat " diet are they talking about? What " low-fat " diet are they talking about? What " high-fat high-calorie snack " are they talking about? Are they talking about Oreo Cookies with a Sized-Up 's Super Shake and " don't hold back on those fries in vegetable oil, please! " Or are they talking about a real kefir smoothie with a few good tablespoons of coconut oil..or that half a stick of butter melting on top Sally's Oatmeal..well, you get the idea. It all comes down to good fat, bad fat and NOT high fat, no/low fat. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that hydrogenated and partially hydrogenated corn, soy, canola, ad nauseum pick-whatever-bad-vegetable oil you want DID render CCK less effective. But if science were good science these days, the PA State U study would have compared good fat/bad fat. I'd love to see the supposed research to see what atrocious 'high-fat, high-calorie snack " they fed those poor people. And if they didn't disclose that, THEIR REPORT should be used only as fire-starter.. -Sharon, NH Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat. High-fat diet KEEPS you from feeling full? What do you all think of this? It's directly opposite of what Sally says. http://www.deliciouslivingmag.com/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=article <http://www.deliciouslivingmag.com/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=article & art icleid=1755> & articleid=1755 A high-fat diet may desensitize you to feeling full, according to researchers at Pennsylvania State University. The study results, published in the August Journal of Nutrition, suggest that the hormone that produces the sensation of satiation-cholecystokinin (CCK)-is rendered less effective by a high-fat diet (2005, vol. 135, no. 8). " This is the first study suggesting that a high-fat diet can promote overconsumption by reducing sensitivity to the hormones involved with satiety, " says study coauthor Savastano. In a 20-day period, one group of rats was fed a high-fat diet, while another group was fed a low-fat diet with an equivalent amount of calories. For three hours a day, both groups were given access to a high-fat, high-calorie snack. When researchers administered CCK, the rats in the low-fat group ate less snack than those in the high-fat group, whose subjects ate as much as 40 percent more. No human study has been done on the relationship between CCK and snacking, but previous studies suggest that humans have increased hunger and a desire to eat more when consuming a high-fat diet. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 25, 2005 Report Share Posted November 25, 2005 On 11/25/05, <spiorad@...> wrote: > What do you all think of this? It's directly opposite of what Sally says. > > http://www.deliciouslivingmag.com/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=article & articlei\ d=1755 Unfortunately I can't access the full-text, but most " high-fat " diets replace the protein with fat instead of the carbs! So they end up being high-carb, high-fat, low-protein diets. Another study around the same time (a little earlier actually) in the same journal found that insulin sensitivity is highest on a high-fat, adequate-protein, low-carb diet, which did not carry the same harms as a high-fat, high-carb, low-protein diet: http://www.cholesterol-and-health.com/The_Cholesterol_Times-Issue-4.html#Carbs Chris -- Dioxins in Animal Foods: A Case For Vegetarianism? Find Out the Truth: http://www.westonaprice.org/envtoxins/dioxins.html Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 26, 2005 Report Share Posted November 26, 2005 I wonder if they used vegetable oils. I know that I never feel stuffed after eating anymore, but I do feel very satisfied and can go another 6-8 hours without even being hungry. - > > What do you all think of this? It's directly opposite of what Sally says. > > http://www.deliciouslivingmag.com/magazine/index.cfm?fuseaction=article & articlei\ d=1755 > > > A high-fat diet may desensitize you to feeling full, according to researchers at Pennsylvania State University. The study results, published in the August Journal of Nutrition, suggest that the hormone that produces the sensation of satiation—cholecystokinin (CCK)—is rendered less effective by a high-fat diet (2005, vol. 135, no. 8). > > " This is the first study suggesting that a high-fat diet can promote overconsumption by reducing sensitivity to the hormones involved with satiety, " says study coauthor Savastano. In a 20-day period, one group of rats was fed a high-fat diet, while another group was fed a low-fat diet with an equivalent amount of calories. For three hours a day, both groups were given access to a high-fat, high-calorie snack. When researchers administered CCK, the rats in the low-fat group ate less snack than those in the high-fat group, whose subjects ate as much as 40 percent more. > > No human study has been done on the relationship between CCK and snacking, but previous studies suggest that humans have increased hunger and a desire to eat more when consuming a high-fat diet. > > > > > > > THE DIFFERENCE NUTRITION MAKES: > or > Click HERE to learn more! > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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