BLK re: Somebody please give me hope

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> > Why is it tragic me telling bob that he is young and he has things to look forward to?

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> You have no idea what's going to happen in Bob's life. I understand your trying to encourage him to > think positively, but your tendency to try to come off as an expert is way off the mark. You're only > an expert on your experiences, and you may misinterpret some of them, too.

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> > It's even more of an impetus not to give up because time is on his side.

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> This I wholeheartedly agree with.

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> > Why kill yourself now when in a couple of years you could have recoverd and this episode would > > just be a distant memory? I'm 24 and it would be premature of me to believe my life was over just > > because it may take a couple of years for me to fully recover. Even though I still have an > > otherwise perfectly healthy body that many less fortunate inviduals would love to be in the > > position to have. Not to mention a house, food and money.

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> Good for you. Do you think Bob has the advantages you do?

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> > And how on earth can you make a judgement that I'm immature just through one post?

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> For one thing, I've read your other posts. For another, I'm old enough to have enough life > experience to know when a person is being immature. And I admit to having immature fits myself.

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> > I've been where bob is mentally, but it took similar words from my parents to wake me up and > > motivate me into gear. It helped make me realise there isnt much choice, you can either fight > > forward or give up and end up standing still.

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> It's an excellent philosophy, but the way you delivered it to Bob was brutal. It's probably easier > to take from your parents. Nobody ever lectured me or scolded me about being depressed or feeling > suicidal. I made it to here all on my own. So toughlove isn't necessary.

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> > Instead of getting side tracked in the tone of what's been expressed, you should listen to the > > words that's being said. I'd rather someone be frustrated and tell me something of substance, then > > someone be polite but tell me a load of shit

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> Do you object to someone being polite and telling you something of substance?

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> > And bobs no angel, he's dished his sheer amount of brutal rants here towards others, So he'd be > > able to take it.

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> I haven't read those, or don't remember who wrote them, but just because someone can dish it out > doesn't mean they can take it.

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> > And if you read all of my post you'll notice I was supporting him and offering him advice.

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> I believe that your intentions were good, just expressed in a way that sounded like scolding. Most > people recoil from being scolded.

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> > And lastly I don't need therapy to make me happier thank you.

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> So you're not open to suggestions as to how to make your life better? To convince you, would I have > to smear it in your face like you did to Bob? Really seriously, I think group therapy would be very > good for you. You're so angry, and you take it out on other people.

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> > You don't even suffer from reduced libido as far as I remember you saying. I don't know you're > > full story but I doubt you understand the situation I'm in so please refrain from any further > > patronising comments.

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> I will if you will. Your scolding letter addressed to Bob was very condescending. That's not > patronizing, it's a fact.

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> > And currently I do things with my time that are of value that gives me pleasure like I do > > volunteer work within my community and socialise with people there.

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> > I'm also tryign everything I can to get better and research ways to overcoming this. But still > > live my life as best as I can. If I was immature, I wouldnt be doing those things.

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> OK, then you're not totally immature. But your responses to me always emphasize the things you > didn't like about what I said. You haven't acknowledged the things you agree with. My responses to > you acknowledge the value of some of the things you said.

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> > Instead I'd just be feeling sorry for myself blaming the whole world for my problems and refuse to > > take responsiblity for my situation.

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> Ann