Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Hello - I have been trying to research air purifiers. They are just so expensive to buy and/or maintain and there are so many of them claiming to be " the best " . So, before I purchase one, I was wondering if anyone has had a good experience with a particular air purifier and could recommend a NON-ozone producing (or an ozone-neutralizing) air purifier and maybe a little about why you recommend it? I came across the " Fresh Air Machine " (http://www.freshairmachine.com/index.htm) and it sounds intreging (though the website does seem like a big advertisement). Does anyone have any experience with it? Thanks for your input! - Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Carpeting is the main culprit when it comes to dust. As long as you have carpeting in your house, you will have lots of dust. Every time someone walks across the carpet, tons of dust is kicked up in a never ending battle. Hardwood flooring is ideal for those that have dust sensitivities. Besides, for the first few years, new carpeting contains formaldehyde and other nasty toxins that are constantly leaching into the air for you to inhale. Ken -- [ ] Air Purifiers - (OT?) Hello - Both one of my sons and I seem to be sensitive to dust and no matter how much the house is cleaned, we always seem to have abundant dust. So, I have been trying to research air purifiers. They are just so expensive to buy and/or maintain and there are so many of them claiming to be " the best " . So, before I purchase one, I was wondering if anyone has had a good experience with a particular air purifier and could recommend a NON-ozone producing (or an ozone-neutralizing) air purifier and maybe a little about why you recommend it? I came across the " Fresh Air Machine " (http://www.freshairmachine.com/index.htm) and it sounds intreging (though the website does seem like a big advertisement). Does anyone have any experience with it? Thanks for your input! - Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 17, 2005 Report Share Posted November 17, 2005 Ann, I finally settled on http://www.airfree.com/ To my knowledge, they're the only ones who back up their claims with published lab-tests to show efficacy using their machine. I noticed on the www.airmachine.com <http://www.airmachine.com/> site, they talk about " studies " but they listed general-knowledge studies and not specific ones to actual testing on their machine. The Airfree unit is completely silent, doesn't move air, pretty energy efficient, and neutralizes ozone, as well as a host of yeast, mold, bacteria, and organic toxins (outgassing of plastic, carpet, glue, etc.) - all through incineration within its " core " . It relies on the natural air movement in the room. They're a small unit - one is really needed in every single room. I have 2 so far which were in the $199 range. I can't remember exactly, but I believe their units range from $150 to $350. Even if one was only placed in the bedroom, I feel it would have health benefits. I've talked to the manufacturer several times, and they've been generous with providing information/research. They have new models being released this fall into the U.S. that are plastic-cased and not metal due to the " American market not thinking the metal was pretty enough whereas the Europeans are fine with a metal case " . Functionally, the metal, in their testing, was more efficient in helping to reducing ozone than the plastic outer shell. All new " plastic shell " models, specifically built for the U.S. market, have been pre-sold to a large well-known national multi-tier marketing organization and also to a high-end high-bucket gadget store located in malls. (I promised not to disclose names.) You may still be able to find the metal-case units. They're sold online and at some specialty stores. I bought mine at a parrot supply store here in New Hampshire. HTH -Sharon, NH Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat. Air Purifiers - (OT?) Hello - I have been trying to research air purifiers. They are just so expensive to buy and/or maintain and there are so many of them claiming to be " the best " . So, before I purchase one, I was wondering if anyone has had a good experience with a particular air purifier and could recommend a NON-ozone producing (or an ozone-neutralizing) air purifier and maybe a little about why you recommend it? I came across the " Fresh Air Machine " (http://www.freshairmachine.com/index.htm) and it sounds intreging (though the website does seem like a big advertisement). Does anyone have any experience with it? Thanks for your input! - Ann Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Ann- >I came across the " Fresh Air Machine " >(http://www.freshairmachine.com/index.htm) and it sounds intreging >(though the website does seem like a big advertisement). Does anyone >have any experience with it? I just took the briefest look at the site, but it evidently involves ion production, so my guess is that it's not a good idea. I use a Holmes ULPA filter (which may not be in production anymore) and an AirFree sterilizer, and they do a reasonable job of helping. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 What about the one that Mercola sells? Think it's called ' Way Healthier'?? jafa Idol <Idol@...> wrote: Ann- >I came across the " Fresh Air Machine " >(http://www.freshairmachine.com/index.htm) and it sounds intreging >(though the website does seem like a big advertisement). Does anyone >have any experience with it? I just took the briefest look at the site, but it evidently involves ion production, so my guess is that it's not a good idea. I use a Holmes ULPA filter (which may not be in production anymore) and an AirFree sterilizer, and they do a reasonable job of helping. - <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 > > Ann- > > >I came across the " Fresh Air Machine " > >(http://www.freshairmachine.com/index.htm) and it sounds intreging > >(though the website does seem like a big advertisement). Does anyone > >have any experience with it? > > I just took the briefest look at the site, but it evidently involves > ion production, so my guess is that it's not a good idea. > > I use a Holmes ULPA filter (which may not be in production anymore) > and an AirFree sterilizer, and they do a reasonable job of helping. > > > > > - > Whats your concern about ion production ? Is it the ozone that is produced or something else? I used to have a negative ion generator for like 2 years, but it broke this summer and haven't gotten a new one. They do seem to make the room smell nice, and I usually would only have it on when I wasn't in the room because high pitched noises, even if they are very low decibel, drive me crazy! - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Sharon- >The Airfree unit is completely silent, doesn't move air, pretty energy >efficient, and neutralizes ozone, as well as a host of yeast, mold, >bacteria, and organic toxins (outgassing of plastic, carpet, glue, etc.) - >all through incineration within its " core " . It relies on the natural air >movement in the room. The AirFree is a very nice unit, though even according to the company it can't overwhelm a systemic mold problem, but all it does is kill things and break certain chemicals down; it doesn't do anything to dust or other particulates. I have one, though, and for certain situations it's fantastic. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Jafa- >What about the one that Mercola sells? Think it's called ' Way Healthier'?? Sorry, but I have no idea. I didn't see any info on his page. It might be a week before I could look into it, but if you'd like, I will. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 , It's listed in his store. It doesn't offer a lot of info from there. Maybe a search would turn up more info. Thanks for checking. jafa Idol <Idol@...> wrote: Jafa- >What about the one that Mercola sells? Think it's called ' Way Healthier'?? Sorry, but I have no idea. I didn't see any info on his page. It might be a week before I could look into it, but if you'd like, I will. - <HTML><!DOCTYPE html PUBLIC " -//W3C//DTD XHTML 1.0 Transitional//EN " " http://www.w3.org/TR/xhtml1/DTD/xhtml1-transitional.dtd " ><BODY><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " > <B>IMPORTANT ADDRESSES</B> <UL> <LI><B><A HREF= " / " >NATIVE NUTRITION</A></B> online</LI> <LI><B><A HREF= " http://onibasu.com/ " >SEARCH</A></B> the entire message archive with Onibasu</LI> </UL></FONT> <PRE><FONT FACE= " monospace " SIZE= " 3 " ><B><A HREF= " mailto: -owner " >LIST OWNER:</A></B> Idol <B>MODERATORS:</B> Heidi Schuppenhauer Wanita Sears </FONT></PRE> </BODY> </HTML> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 18, 2005 Report Share Posted November 18, 2005 Hi, ! Thanks for the testimonial/information on Airfree. We're in mildewy, moldy New England. I'm hoping and praying that having one Airfree in every room will do something to keep problems down. For the most part, my little guy, 5, is quite sensitive to most anything (he's PDD-NOS). The carpets are being ripped out next. For dust/particulates, I have a Cloud9 - it's a pretty intense workhorse. We also installed an electro-static air filtration system in the furnace. Next step is a UV system in the ductwork. Any experience with those? -Sharon, NH Deut 11:14 He will put grass in the fields for your cattle, and you will have plenty to eat. The AirFree is a very nice unit, though even according to the company it can't overwhelm a systemic mold problem, but all it does is kill things and break certain chemicals down; it doesn't do anything to dust or other particulates. I have one, though, and for certain situations it's fantastic. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 - >Whats your concern about ion production ? It works by oxidizing stuff. I don't want to be oxidized. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 5, 2006 Report Share Posted January 5, 2006 Jafa- > It's listed in his store. It doesn't offer a lot of info from > there. Maybe a search would turn up more info. Thanks for checking. Sorry for the grossly delayed response. The air purifier Mercola sells generates hydroxyl and superoxide radicals. I wouldn't want to breathe in either. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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