Supplements: Dr. Rons vs. Standard Process

[Guest guest]

I'm looking to supplement my pregnancy with C, E, and folic acid (I

also take CLO). Can anyone speak to the difference in quality between

Dr. Rons and SP? Are there any other brands I should be looking at?

High quality supplements are tres tres expensive, so I want to choose

wisely. Also, is it true you can't get SP unless you see a

practitioner? What a pain!

TIA,

[Guest guest]

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>I'm looking to supplement my pregnancy with C, E, and folic acid (I

>also take CLO). Can anyone speak to the difference in quality between

>Dr. Rons and SP? Are there any other brands I should be looking at?

>High quality supplements are tres tres expensive, so I want to choose

>wisely. Also, is it true you can't get SP unless you see a

>practitioner? What a pain!

SP is generally very low-potency, and I'm inclined to buy Dr. Schmid's

argument against food-concentrate types of supplements. However, there are

(or at least used to be) places on the web selling their stuff, and Willner

(100 Park Ave, a block south of Grand Central) sells them OTC.

The best folic acid supplement I know of by far is Folirinse from

Scientific Botanicals, and it looks like Willner carries it, though I don't

know whether they have it in-store.

Dr. Schmid resells a respectable Thorne E, but as I recall the best E I've

found is from Carotec. Their site seems to be down, though (or have they

gone out of business?) so I can't give you any more details.

And C... well, that's a black hole of uncertainty, unfortunately.

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[Guest guest]

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Turns out Carotec is still in business, and their E is somewhat superior to

Thorne's. They also sell a palm tocotrienol supplement which is a very

nice complement to their E's tocopherols. Dunno what's up with their web

presence, but their number is 800-522-4279.

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[Guest guest]

--thank you for this great information! I know I might be opening

up a can of worms here, but can you give me the cliff notes version of

why C supplementation is a " black hole of uncertainty? "

[Guest guest]

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>--thank you for this great information! I know I might be opening

>up a can of worms here, but can you give me the cliff notes version of

>why C supplementation is a " black hole of uncertainty? "

Form and cofactors: Technically, " vitamin C " is " ascorbic acid " , but some

argue that it's useless without cofactors found with it in various

vegetable (and perhaps even animal) sources. This of course leads to the

impossible question of which natural source and co-factors are best.

Potency: Certain very positive results have been reported with high-dose

and very-high-dose supplementation. However, co-factor advocates suggest

(without hard support that I know of) that high doses are unnecessary when

C is taken with its natural co-factors. True? Not true? Who knows.

Potency redux: certain very preliminary data from the Brix field suggests

that vitamin C might be a compound of last resort, but whether this is true

and whether it applies to humans is anyone's guess.

Buffering: some say this diminishes its effect.

Gastric disturbance: effects different people at different times with

different doses.

And I could go on.

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[Guest guest]

Re: Supplements: Dr. Rons vs. Standard Process

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>And C... well, that's a black hole of uncertainty, unfortunately.

Ron sells a whole food form of vit. C called Pure Radiance C. Here's what's

in it:

" A blend of organic and wildcrafted ingredients (including concentrated Camu

Camu berries from the Amazon rainforest - other ingredients include

concentrated Amla berries from the Himalayas, prized in Ayurvedic medicine

for their regenerative properties, and freeze-dried blueberries,

raspberries, cranberries, cherries and buckwheat sprouts) is used to make

this marvelous whole-food vitamin C supplement. Pure Radiance C is a

completely natural food form of vitamin C. "

http://www.drrons.com/synergy_radiance_c.html

I use it and like it.

P.S. Congratulations !!! You beat me to it. LOL

Suze Fisher

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[Guest guest]

Suze,

Yeah, I'm looking at Dr. Ron's C, but it's sooooooo expensive. How

many do you take a day?

Thanks for the kudos, but in all truth, I had absolutely no intention

of beating you to it! Sometimes these things just *happen* I'm just

glad I wasn't on a Doritos bender when I found out ; )

[Guest guest]

I think that high supplementation of vitamin C also reduces one's ability to

absorb minerals like, say, calcium? ~Robin