Re: Gluten free, low glycemic, for my mom?

May 10, 2005

" Christie " <christiekeith@c...> wrote:

> So... I don't know how to advise her, but if someone knew of a book or

> eating plan that combines the concepts of eating to minimize blood sugar

> spikes with gluten free, I'd be very grateful to hear about it! She

really

> needs something fairly structured.

How about spelt flour? Spelt is extremely low in gluten.

12th century nun, St. Hildegard teaches (6) basic things about the

benefits of spelt in ones diet:

http://www.speltbread.com/wonder_history.html

Gayle

May 11, 2005

> Now, I have certain opinions and I'm sure a lot of you do too, but

within

> the confines of what she likes and will eat, is there ANY book

that might

> spell out a way she can try eating that will support healthy blood

sugar and

> gluten-free, without requiring her to eat things she hates or is

disinclined

> toward or can't currently tolerate? It's taken me years to get her

to be

> ready to go off gluten and she's really relying on me to hand her

a book and

> say here, this is what you should eat.

>

Ross has two books - The Diet Cure and The Mood Cure.

is gluten intolerant herself and is a WAPF member. Her books,

expecially the Diet Cure, really spell out how to structure a meal

that includes carbs to keep blood sugar balanced and kill cravings.

She's got diagrams and " rules " about how much protein per meal. She

doesn't mention fermented veggies and the fat is adequate, but not

really high.

Her diet isn't very high in carbs, but not low like induction levels

of Atkins. Probably more like Schwartzbein or Life Without Bread

levels. She appeals to " mainstream " folks and doesn't seem " weird " -

no raw liver, no fermented veggies, etc. She lists " good " foods and

foods to avoid and has lots of troubleshooting info if the diet

isn't working or if there's still blood sugar problems.

The Diet Cure is her older book (I think she was still a vegetarian

herself, but she doesn't stress it) and has more info about food.

The Mood Cure is more updated and I think has better information,

and is better organized, but there will be a lot of parts about

moods etc that she'll have to skip over. But there's several good

and well organized chapters on food followed by some recipes for

what she recommends. Iirc, she even addresses not being able to

digest fats well.

Katy

May 11, 2005

She is ready to try gluten free, but wants to do it by eating some things

that she has not been eating on Atkins, such as potatos and oatmeal, because

otherwise she feels her diet will be so limited she won't stick with it. But

she doesn't want to undo the good she's done on Atkins for her blood sugar.

So... I don't know how to advise her, but if someone knew of a book or

eating plan that combines the concepts of eating to minimize blood sugar

spikes with gluten free, I'd be very grateful to hear about it! She really

needs something fairly structured.

Thank you!

Christie

What about the SCD diet? It's basically low carb, but has some good

" substitute " bread recipes for muffins, pancakes, etc., that use nut flour as

the base, instead of gluten flours.

Rebekah

May 11, 2005

How about Mercola's books? I know alot of us are not extremely fond

of him, but his food principles are pretty close to NT.

I have read through his Total Health book at Borders one day &

thought it was really good, its totally grain-free but uses lots of

nuts to replace. (so you still get baked goods, just made with nut-

flour!)

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/search-handle-form/103-8046550-

9769404

I havent had the opportunity to read his No-Grain Diet book, but it

sounds promising??

>

> She is ready to try gluten free, but wants to do it by eating

some things

> that she has not been eating on Atkins, such as potatos and

oatmeal, because

> otherwise she feels her diet will be so limited she won't stick

with it. But

> she doesn't want to undo the good she's done on Atkins for her

blood sugar.

> So... I don't know how to advise her, but if someone knew of a

book or

> eating plan that combines the concepts of eating to minimize

blood sugar

> spikes with gluten free, I'd be very grateful to hear about it!

She really

> needs something fairly structured.

>

> Thank you!

>

> Christie

>

> What about the SCD diet? It's basically low carb, but has some

good " substitute " bread recipes for muffins, pancakes, etc., that

use nut flour as the base, instead of gluten flours.

>

> Rebekah

>

May 11, 2005

>> What about the SCD diet? <<

What is this? Thanks!

Christie

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May 12, 2005

Suze,

has this topic been pretty well covered here? should i look in the

archives?

i have a friend who's a chapter leader and she said there was a

discussion there that pretty much said no one should ever consume

gluten...what you said, that the damage is cumulative and can be

silent.

so, what's the deal? i understand the egyptians were one of the

first civilizations to consume grain heavily and their health

suffered as a result.

so does it go back that far? or is it mostly because wheat has been

bred to contain more gluten?

the Bible talks a lot about bread...but what were they eating and was

it healthy?

and what about wapf cultures consuming sprouted, fermented and soaked

grains?

i subscribe to mercola's web site and of course he thinks no one

should eat grains.

our son lives on the irish soda bread i make; i soak the oats

overnight in kefir and i use sprouted spelt flour.

thanks.

laura

> Chrisite,

>

> I just wanted to say that whatever you do, please keep at her about

gluten.

> If she doesn't seem to be able to keep to a gluten-free diet, maybe

she'd

> bee willing to get tested? I will be taking the Enterolab test

myself in a

> few weeks. You can just order that by mail - their stool test

apparently is

> one of, if not THE most sensitive tests available. Also, someone on

the

> GFCFNN list just posted about a fantastic experience with a GI

specialist in

> the Bay area who's researching gluten intolerance and seems to

really know a

> lot about it.

>

> In any case, due to her age it becomes more of a concern, I think,

as the

> damage is cumulative and often silent until something really serious

> manifests. Del Eaton was probably around your mom's age (65, I

think?) and

> we lost her two days ago. She had abdominal cancer and was

convinced it was

> a result of her intolerance to gluten.

>

> Sadly, someone on this list told her in 2003 that her blood type

was prone

> to stomach cancer (she'd been complaining about stomach problems on

the list

> around that time) and she replied that maybe she'd better get

herself

> checked. It seems like she didn't follow through with that thought,

> otherwise perhaps she'd still be with us.

>

> I worry about my parents too and suspect both may be gluten

intolerant. My

> dad recently developed an autoimmune disease. Dr. Fine has found

that about

> 79% of folks with autoimmune diseases have antigliadin antibodies.

But I've

> had a hard time convincing him to get tested for gluten

sensitivity. If my

> test shows I have the genes though, that might stimulate him to get

tested

> (well, I hope!) since it's hereditary.

>

> In any case, I think it's important to do whatever is necessary to

get the

> people we love (especially older ones!) to either get tested or go

> gluten-free if we suspect they are intolerant of it.

>

> BTW, I'm very sorry to say this, but casein intolerance often goes

> hand-in-hand with gluten intolerance :-(

>

> Suze Fisher

May 12, 2005

Elaine Gottschalls' Specific Carbohydrate Diet; she has a book out, and there

are several websites regarding the diet. It does include dairy and nuts, but

there are several websites which recipes which eliminate the dairy. Nuts are