Re: Frozen veggies & new food pyramid

[Guest guest]

> Does anyone know where the study claiming that frozen veggies are equal

> or superior to fresh comes from? I originally heard it was paid for by

> Bird's Eye or another frozen food manufacturer. Given the fact that

> many of the nutrients are probably powerwashed away by scalding water

> with questionable contaminants, I'm not convinced they're so good for

> you even if the are at their peak when they get in the factory.

>

> Thanks,

> Adrienne

Dr. Mercola has given thumbs up to frozen vegetables and fruit. Not that

that is the ultimate endorsement. Makes sense to me especially with longer

transportation distances in winter and the commercial varieties that have

needed to be developed for long transportations. I'd rather have my

vegetables scalded, powerwashed and frozen to more than likely kill

contaminants when fresher than not know what fresh has been exposed to in

transportation or in the country it was grown and length of transport.

Processors are usually close to growers, going in daily. Trader Joe's just

stopped carrying, probably until new season, the frozen organic asparagus

I've been eating all winter and went a short time without frozen

raspberries. Those sources alone have really helped out nutritionally.

Wanita

[Guest guest]

Sally Fallon also endorses frozen veggies as an OK option. But like

you said, while I respect both her and Dr. Mercola's opinions, it

doesn't mean the topic is closed.

I should have been more specific in my comparison of vegetables. I

was comparing frozen to organic, locally-grown vegetables. Unwashed

vegetables are mainly prone to losing vitamins, while those subjected

to high temperatures & whose wash water is dumped lose vitamins and

minerals.

Don't get me wrong, I do eat some frozen veggies. Just wondering

where this " common knowledge " originated, especially when taking

other factors into account.

Adrienne

>

> Dr. Mercola has given thumbs up to frozen vegetables and fruit. Not

that

> that is the ultimate endorsement. Makes sense to me especially with

longer

> transportation distances in winter and the commercial varieties

that have

> needed to be developed for long transportations. I'd rather have my

> vegetables scalded, powerwashed and frozen to more than likely kill

> contaminants when fresher than not know what fresh has been exposed

to in

> transportation or in the country it was grown and length of

transport.

> Processors are usually close to growers, going in daily. Trader

Joe's just

> stopped carrying, probably until new season, the frozen organic

asparagus

> I've been eating all winter and went a short time without frozen

> raspberries. Those sources alone have really helped out

nutritionally.

>

> Wanita

[Guest guest]

>From: " ahewcn " <ahewcn@...>

>Unwashed vegetables are mainly prone to losing vitamins,

why??

[Guest guest]

The problem I see with frozen veggies is that there is so much energy that

goes into the processing and packaging of the product.

There's a lot of oil/coal/gas and waste just to freeze some veggies.

I try and go to the farm stands and give my money directly to the farmers,

while at the same time conserving some energy.

I also enjoy the seasonal variety of nutrients. I don't buy tomatoes in the

winter, etc.

My $0.02.

[Guest guest]

Heat, light and oxygen destroy vitamins. Minerals do not die the way

vitamins do. That's why they always say that if you steam vegetables

you should drink the liquid they are steamed in because they get

displaced into the water.

Adrienne

--- In , " rda " <juliarda@h...>

wrote:

> >From: " ahewcn " <ahewcn@y...>

> >Unwashed vegetables are mainly prone to losing vitamins,

>

>

> why??

>

>

[Guest guest]

Absolutely, that's another point that most people don't bring up or

think about. It's actually one of the issues brought up on the

mypyramid.org site. I don't have farm stands of very responsible

growers near me, but our local health food store purchases mainly from

local organic farms who only sell wholesale. I do the best I can

without getting overly obsessive.

Adrienne

> The problem I see with frozen veggies is that there is so much energy

that

> goes into the processing and packaging of the product.

> There's a lot of oil/coal/gas and waste just to freeze some veggies.

> I try and go to the farm stands and give my money directly to the

farmers,

> while at the same time conserving some energy.

> I also enjoy the seasonal variety of nutrients. I don't buy tomatoes

in the

> winter, etc.

> My $0.02.

>

>

>

>

[Guest guest]

> The problem I see with frozen veggies is that there is so much energy that

> goes into the processing and packaging of the product.

> There's a lot of oil/coal/gas and waste just to freeze some veggies.

> I try and go to the farm stands and give my money directly to the farmers,

> while at the same time conserving some energy.

> I also enjoy the seasonal variety of nutrients. I don't buy tomatoes in

> the

> winter, etc.

> My $0.02.

>

There is the extra energy use of freezing and keeping frozen in

transportation on top of rush, fresh transportation. If that transportation

is from out of the country should about even out. Think you're in MA like

me. Do buy local in season, bulk, freeze some and our berries here. My

examples of buying frozen asparagus and raspberries are likely U.S. grown.

Anyway, both will grow here, are perennial low maintainance crops, so

they're the next to go in to grow our year's supply.

Wanita