Re: Coming out of Lurkerdome - please be nice. :-p

[Guest guest]

Hi D,

I just turned 38yrs, (and I mean just!) and I too live on the Northern Beaches, and have all my life.

1.Coffee - Yes

2.Dr B - Our Nic on here really rates him. I have heard all good things about him.

3.Head Hunger - it's always an issue, but the band is there as a tool to help. I usually get, what can only be described as a blocked feeling where I either just stop eating, or I take one more small nibble and it's all over. I PB. Not good to PB though, so I usually stop.

4.I chose to tell everyone. Mostly I don;t care who knows. As I did this OP for ME. Every once in a blue moon, there is an a@*e hole, and I wish I said nothing.

I have a friend about to go through it, and my advice to her, was to do what she felt comphy with. She has chosen not to tell anyone, and I am more than happy to keep her secret.

5. You also have us for support, I didn't find this site for a year after my OP and although I had family and friends to help me through, there is nothing like a fellow bandit to help you through.

If you need a chat, I'm Fi on 0411 417 590

-----Original Message-----From: SydBand [mailto:SydBand ] On Behalf Of ebdani1969Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 10:31 AMTo: SydBand Subject: Coming out of Lurkerdome - please be nice. :-p

Hi Ladies & Gents.....Well after stalking this board (and others) for quite a while now thought I'd work up enough courage to ask some questions, if that's OK?They're kinda daft questions (no I'm not asking how much it will all cost *yawn* LOL) but I've not been able to find out anywhere else so who better to ask than the Bandits I say!Info about me: 39 next week. *yikes!*110kg & 171½ cms (hey, every cm counts right?! ROFL) so BMI = 36'ish.Married with 2 kidlets and in the ahem, unpiad workforce (yup, full-time Mama.)Living on Northern Beaches with all the yummy mummy types. *insert roll eyes/jealous emoticon here!!* LOL)My questions:1) Can I still drink coffee?For what it's worth (FWIW) I don't drink coffee for the caffeine buzz (I drink that Jarrah sorta fake coffee) .... I drink it because I like it or possibly even boredom? Anyway if I got banded would this still be do-able? 2) Dr Dr Roy Brancatisano in Baulkham Hills - anybody rate him? I have an appointment with him next week for my initial consult. Anybody here used him? FWIW I've touched base with Dr Steve Leibman's office as he was my first choice but to be honest the phone staff there hacked me off I threw my teddy out of the pram and had a dummy spit. LOL In short it is COMPULSORY to attend their seminar and next one not until 22nd July and needed to get the ball rolling sooner than that. Anyhoo the more I think about the whole Circle Of Care thing I don't think it's a bad thing, doing the whole "One Stop Shop" kinda thing. All in-house just makes sense to me.3) Head hunger/self-sabotage when banded. Your thoughts?I guess I'm just nervous about me trying to get clever with the band that's all. I want to hear I suppose that when you feel full you quit eating for the sheer sake of it......meaning if you don't stop (unlike pre-band) you wind up hurling and regretting it for 4 hours after.4) Keeping banding op top secret from anybody other than your partner? I'm really not wanting to tell ANYBODY I'm getting this done. I know everybody's lean will be the bog standard "But you just have to try harder...." or "But you have SUCH a pretty face...." *blech* or bog standard comebacks like that. I figure I could 'hide' it if I had to by eating tiny meals and making up an excuse, I guess subconsciously if I fall flat on my face I don't want another 10 people being able to think "Yeah good one - couldn't even do it with that kind of help!!" although I know my chums wouldn't really think like that. I just figure I don't need the "support" per se on a daily basis...I have myself and my husband for that.Thankyou so much if you made it to the end of this War & peace epic post and if you could chime in with your thougths/comments to my above points that would be most appreciated.D

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Hey There D...

Welcome out of lurkdom - lol!

Questions - we all have a gazillion of them when we start looking into

this, and the best way to get them is here with us or on any banding

forum and also with your surgeon of choice. They are all good at the

curly questions let me tell you... and be honest with them, ask them

everything you want. Always go armed with a list so you don't forget

anything... tick them off as you go.

I will help if I can...

1) Coffee - yes... wine, tea, etc etc all good. Fizzy stuff can

sometimes be a problem once you get restriction... but again, it depends

on you and we are all different. I struggle iwth it, but others don't.

2) Dr B comes very highly recommended and a few of the gals here have

used him and love him. Good suggestion is do an info evening, see what

he has to say. It also depends on where you live and if you are

prepared to travel. But the most important thing is a good relationship

with your surgeon and their staff. I went to Steve Leibman and we have

a love hate relationship... but I do love my Dr.Fill. I think he thinks

I am too demanding - and he is probably right. I have a short fuse

sometimes... and he copes with me reasonably well considering LMAO!!!!

And Garret is good also - love them both to death for giving me a new

lease on life.

3) Yes, head hunger and self sabotage are my middle names... some people

are great at this and others like me are not. I am an emotional eater

and really struggle... but I am getting better and let me tell you, even

though I do self sabotage, I still am 25 odd kilos lighter and feel 100%

more alive than I did 3 years ago.

4) That's hard... keeping it a secret, but most do. I made the mistake

of telling a girl who I thought was a great long term friend and she

blabbed to a few people... and so on etc. Its up to you, there are ways

of getting around it... You are having a hernia op, and you are on a

diet to help with that. There are ways.

I will follow up again later if I think of anything... but at the moment

I have to run because my Mum and Dad are about to arrive.

Great to have you here..

Mel

>

> Hi Ladies & Gents.....

>

> Well after stalking this board (and others) for quite a while now

> thought I'd work up enough courage to ask some questions, if that's

> OK?

> They're kinda daft questions (no I'm not asking how much it will all

> cost *yawn* LOL) but I've not been able to find out anywhere else so

> who better to ask than the Bandits I say!

>

>

>

> Info about me: 39 next week. *yikes!*

>

> 110kg & 171½ cms (hey, every cm counts right?! ROFL) so BMI =

36'ish.

>

> Married with 2 kidlets and in the ahem, unpiad workforce (yup, full-

> time Mama.)

>

> Living on Northern Beaches with all the yummy mummy types. *insert

> roll eyes/jealous emoticon here!!* LOL)

>

>

> My questions:

>

> 1) Can I still drink coffee?

>

> For what it's worth (FWIW) I don't drink coffee for the caffeine buzz

> (I drink that Jarrah sorta fake coffee) .... I drink it because I

> like it or possibly even boredom? Anyway if I got banded would this

> still be do-able?

>

> 2) Dr Dr Roy Brancatisano in Baulkham Hills - anybody rate him?

>

> I have an appointment with him next week for my initial consult.

> Anybody here used him? FWIW I've touched base with Dr Steve

> Leibman's office as he was my first choice but to be honest the phone

> staff there hacked me off I threw my teddy out of the pram and had a

> dummy spit. LOL In short it is COMPULSORY to attend their seminar

> and next one not until 22nd July and needed to get the ball rolling

> sooner than that. Anyhoo the more I think about the whole Circle Of

> Care thing I don't think it's a bad thing, doing the whole " One Stop

> Shop " kinda thing. All in-house just makes sense to me.

>

> 3) Head hunger/self-sabotage when banded. Your thoughts?

>

> I guess I'm just nervous about me trying to get clever with the band

> that's all. I want to hear I suppose that when you feel full you

> quit eating for the sheer sake of it......meaning if you don't stop

> (unlike pre-band) you wind up hurling and regretting it for 4 hours

> after.

>

>

> 4) Keeping banding op top secret from anybody other than your

> partner?

>

> I'm really not wanting to tell ANYBODY I'm getting this done. I know

> everybody's lean will be the bog standard " But you just have to try

> harder.... " or " But you have SUCH a pretty face.... " *blech* or bog

> standard comebacks like that. I figure I could 'hide' it if I had to

> by eating tiny meals and making up an excuse, I guess subconsciously

> if I fall flat on my face I don't want another 10 people being able

> to think " Yeah good one - couldn't even do it with that kind of

> help!! " although I know my chums wouldn't really think like that. I

> just figure I don't need the " support " per se on a daily basis...I

> have myself and my husband for that.

>

>

>

> Thankyou so much if you made it to the end of this War & peace epic

> post and if you could chime in with your thougths/comments to my

> above points that would be most appreciated.

>

>

> D

>

[Guest guest]

I know why you thought the office staff at Steve's office a little hard to take. I realised pretty quickly they are very very busy and I can get a bit like that in the same circumstances. So I now use the direct approach. Hi - I need to see, lock the time in and see if I can hang the phone up before them!_._,___

Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.

[Guest guest]

Hi D,

I am also from the Northern Beaches (somewhat older than you and Fi -

turned 48 last week)

I started at 165kg and am now down to 138.9 (woohoo under 140kg)

1. Don't drink coffee (don't like the taste) but I can drink anything

else including soft drinks. You probably would just need to be carefull

of adding sugar etc as this would slow down your weight loss, so you

might need to consider artificial sweetener and low fat milk, but I was

certainly not told that I couldn't have tea or coffee.

2. Like Mel I see Dr Liebman, but have heard good things about Dr B.

3. Look up head hunger in the dictionary and you will see my picture

there!!! Talk about sabotage. It's something we still all have to cope

with but I am starting to manage it better, have thought that maybe I

should see a psychologist - maybe they could help. I'm not sure, but I

think Dr B has a psychologist on staff, if he does, make use of them

and they might be able to help.

The band does help make you feel fuller as long as you listen to it.

Like everything associated with weight loss there are ways to 'cheat',

but I believe that having gone this far (surgery) I'd have to be an

idiot to want to cheat too often. Sure when I go out to dinner I will

eat more than I'm suppose to, but compared to what I would have eaten

before the band it is a heck of a lot less. Like Fi, when I start to

get full I get like a pressure on my chest, even one more bite will

usually sent me running to the bathroom.

4. I told most people, if they don't like it - tough. If you want to

keep it secret, you could just tell them your having surgery of a

'personal' nature - most men think that means 'womens problems' and

won't ask any further. In fact most people if you tell them it is

'personal' are usually afraid to ask for more detail.

Good luck with whatever you decide, being banded has its good and bad

times, but I am so pleased I had it done.

Danna

[Guest guest]

Hello D, is that for Dani?

I was lurking for ages as well before I took control and " did it " ,

we all worry, this is the best thing I've done for myself.

My experience has been through a " no frills " dr in Castle Hill, so I

can't comment on the circel of care's program, although there are

plenty of others who have been done by them. I didn't like their

marketing approach.

1) Can I still drink coffee?

God Yes, I am a coffee addict and there is no problem in drinking

anything really, my dr is against anything " Diet " , his appraoch is

eat good quality and don't be sucked into thinking because its diet,

you can indulge. I used to be addicted to diet coke, but have beat

that, my vice is vodka & tonics (notice the plurals)

3) Head hunger/self-sabotage when banded.

I haven't sabotaged consciously yet, and if I do stray. say at that

time of the month, its in moderation, so far. My biggest problem is

discipline, if I buy the good/healthy stuff, then I'm not

tempted...at home. Socially I still have treats, I'll often have

coffee and cheesecake with friends, we just share the cheesecake,

and all is sweet. Pre banding, I would have had it all to myself.

3) Keeping banding op top secret from anybody other than your

partner?

I'm 2.5 months post and the only ppl that know are my daughter,

hubby and my banding buddies.

Good luck with your descision, cheers Di

[Guest guest]

Hi D,

Welcome to Sydband. I'm in Dee Why and it took Fi and me about 6

months to finally meet. Let's hope it won't take that long to meet

you :-) There's a Northern Beaches get together around the first

Friday every month - and you are very welcome to join us any time you

want.

I'd like to comment on one of your questions:

1. be careful with the 'Jaffa type' of coffee - a fellow bandster

wondered why she wasn't losing any more weight. It became quite clear

after a checking the Jaffa Cinammon coffee: one 'normal' cup had

around 50 kcal, but she was drinking 5 LARGE cups each day - which

are 500 kcal on top of the food intake !!! I'm afraid Nescafe is the

safer choice :-(

As for the rest of your questions:

I don't know the doc in Baulkham Hills - but there are a few on the

board who can tell you about him.

Head hunger - will still exist. I'm banded for 1 1/2 years now and

still don't get the portion sizes right.

Whom to tell - that's a decision only you can make...

Right, that's it from me. Hope to meet you soon at one of our Norther

Beaches get togethers or one of the Sydband meetings (next one is in

August at Nada's - YUMMMMMMM)

Cheers,

>

> Hi Ladies & Gents.....

>

> Well after stalking this board (and others) for quite a while now

> thought I'd work up enough courage to ask some questions, if that's

> OK?

> They're kinda daft questions (no I'm not asking how much it will

all

> cost *yawn* LOL) but I've not been able to find out anywhere else

so

> who better to ask than the Bandits I say!

>

>

>

> Info about me: 39 next week. *yikes!*

>

> 110kg & 171½ cms (hey, every cm counts right?! ROFL) so BMI =

36'ish.

>

> Married with 2 kidlets and in the ahem, unpiad workforce (yup, full-

> time Mama.)

>

> Living on Northern Beaches with all the yummy mummy types. *insert

> roll eyes/jealous emoticon here!!* LOL)

>

>

> My questions:

>

> 1) Can I still drink coffee?

>

> For what it's worth (FWIW) I don't drink coffee for the caffeine

buzz

> (I drink that Jarrah sorta fake coffee) .... I drink it because I

> like it or possibly even boredom? Anyway if I got banded would

this

> still be do-able?

>

> 2) Dr Dr Roy Brancatisano in Baulkham Hills - anybody rate him?

>

> I have an appointment with him next week for my initial consult.

> Anybody here used him? FWIW I've touched base with Dr Steve

> Leibman's office as he was my first choice but to be honest the

phone

> staff there hacked me off I threw my teddy out of the pram and had

a

> dummy spit. LOL In short it is COMPULSORY to attend their seminar

> and next one not until 22nd July and needed to get the ball rolling

> sooner than that. Anyhoo the more I think about the whole Circle

Of

> Care thing I don't think it's a bad thing, doing the whole " One

Stop

> Shop " kinda thing. All in-house just makes sense to me.

>

> 3) Head hunger/self-sabotage when banded. Your thoughts?

>

> I guess I'm just nervous about me trying to get clever with the

band

> that's all. I want to hear I suppose that when you feel full you

> quit eating for the sheer sake of it......meaning if you don't stop

> (unlike pre-band) you wind up hurling and regretting it for 4 hours

> after.

>

>

> 4) Keeping banding op top secret from anybody other than your

> partner?

>

> I'm really not wanting to tell ANYBODY I'm getting this done. I

know

> everybody's lean will be the bog standard " But you just have to try

> harder.... " or " But you have SUCH a pretty face.... " *blech* or bog

> standard comebacks like that. I figure I could 'hide' it if I had

to

> by eating tiny meals and making up an excuse, I guess

subconsciously

> if I fall flat on my face I don't want another 10 people being able

> to think " Yeah good one - couldn't even do it with that kind of

> help!! " although I know my chums wouldn't really think like that.

I

> just figure I don't need the " support " per se on a daily basis...I

> have myself and my husband for that.

>

>

>

> Thankyou so much if you made it to the end of this War & peace epic

> post and if you could chime in with your thougths/comments to my

> above points that would be most appreciated.

>

>

> D

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Dani,

1. Yep, you can still drink coffee. At least, I drink tea and I dont have a problem with it.

2. Dont know him but some of the other girls do, so will leave this one to them!

3. Hmmm, as lots of people on here already know, I have some trouble with the head hunger aspect of things, but if I didnt have this band, I would probably be pushing 200kg by now instead of having lost 25kg, so I think the band has done its job, I just have to work harder on the head hunger part! Before I got the band, the most I had ever lost on any diet I had been on, was 7kg, so I am grateful. I was in complete despair that I just couldnt lose any more than that and that NOTHING was ever going to work, but when I lost 7kg post-op and kept on losing, it gave me hope again.

4. I kept the band a secret from everyone except my best friend and my daughter. Since then I have shared with my parents and a couple of friends but I am VERY selective about who I tell. I had some bad reactions from people about the band even before I had it done, so needless to say, I never told those people afterwards either! Its a very individual thing and I think if you dont want to tell people, dont!

Mon

From: SydBand [mailto:SydBand ] On Behalf Of ebdani1969Sent: Friday, 4 July 2008 10:31 AMTo: SydBand Subject: Coming out of Lurkerdome - please be nice. :-p

Hi Ladies & Gents.....Well after stalking this board (and others) for quite a while now thought I'd work up enough courage to ask some questions, if that's OK?They're kinda daft questions (no I'm not asking how much it will all cost *yawn* LOL) but I've not been able to find out anywhere else so who better to ask than the Bandits I say!Info about me: 39 next week. *yikes!*110kg & 171½ cms (hey, every cm counts right?! ROFL) so BMI = 36'ish.Married with 2 kidlets and in the ahem, unpiad workforce (yup, full-time Mama.)Living on Northern Beaches with all the yummy mummy types. *insert roll eyes/jealous emoticon here!!* LOL)My questions:1) Can I still drink coffee?For what it's worth (FWIW) I don't drink coffee for the caffeine buzz (I drink that Jarrah sorta fake coffee) .... I drink it because I like it or possibly even boredom? Anyway if I got banded would this still be do-able? 2) Dr Dr Roy Brancatisano in Baulkham Hills - anybody rate him? I have an appointment with him next week for my initial consult. Anybody here used him? FWIW I've touched base with Dr Steve Leibman's office as he was my first choice but to be honest the phone staff there hacked me off I threw my teddy out of the pram and had a dummy spit. LOL In short it is COMPULSORY to attend their seminar and next one not until 22nd July and needed to get the ball rolling sooner than that. Anyhoo the more I think about the whole Circle Of Care thing I don't think it's a bad thing, doing the whole "One Stop Shop" kinda thing. All in-house just makes sense to me.3) Head hunger/self-sabotage when banded. Your thoughts?I guess I'm just nervous about me trying to get clever with the band that's all. I want to hear I suppose that when you feel full you quit eating for the sheer sake of it......meaning if you don't stop (unlike pre-band) you wind up hurling and regretting it for 4 hours after.4) Keeping banding op top secret from anybody other than your partner? I'm really not wanting to tell ANYBODY I'm getting this done. I know everybody's lean will be the bog standard "But you just have to try harder...." or "But you have SUCH a pretty face...." *blech* or bog standard comebacks like that. I figure I could 'hide' it if I had to by eating tiny meals and making up an excuse, I guess subconsciously if I fall flat on my face I don't want another 10 people being able to think "Yeah good one - couldn't even do it with that kind of help!!" although I know my chums wouldn't really think like that. I just figure I don't need the "support" per se on a daily basis...I have myself and my husband for that.Thankyou so much if you made it to the end of this War & peace epic post and if you could chime in with your thougths/comments to my above points that would be most appreciated.D

[Guest guest]

Hi There,

Thought I would stick my two cents worth in!

I went to CoC and was done by Dr Roy and the first thing I told him was I wasn't doing it if I couldn't drink coffee!! Dr Roy is great, wonderful bedside manner and he has surrounded himself with a professional, likable team. His Brother Tony is wonderful as well. They are really strict at CoC, they have lot's of rules to follow pre and post op but now I know they are just trying to endure all their clients have positive surgery results. My GP said they only want success stories and that makes sense. Have you checked out their website?? They have very realistic people on their with their success stories.

I still have head hunger but I try to avoid junk food and I do find if I have a 'binge' nite it is a lot less than before!

Hope that helps!

Sharon

Coming out of Lurkerdome - please be nice. :-p

Hi Ladies & Gents.....Well after stalking this board (and others) for quite a while now thought I'd work up enough courage to ask some questions, if that's OK?They're kinda daft questions (no I'm not asking how much it will all cost *yawn* LOL) but I've not been able to find out anywhere else so who better to ask than the Bandits I say!Info about me: 39 next week. *yikes!*110kg & 171½ cms (hey, every cm counts right?! ROFL) so BMI = 36'ish.Married with 2 kidlets and in the ahem, unpiad workforce (yup, full-time Mama.)Living on Northern Beaches with all the yummy mummy types. *insert roll eyes/jealous emoticon here!!* LOL)My questions:1) Can I still drink coffee?For what it's worth (FWIW) I don't drink coffee for the caffeine buzz (I drink that Jarrah sorta fake coffee) .... I drink it because I like it or possibly even boredom? Anyway if I got

banded would this still be do-able? 2) Dr Dr Roy Brancatisano in Baulkham Hills - anybody rate him? I have an appointment with him next week for my initial consult. Anybody here used him? FWIW I've touched base with Dr Steve Leibman's office as he was my first choice but to be honest the phone staff there hacked me off I threw my teddy out of the pram and had a dummy spit. LOL In short it is COMPULSORY to attend their seminar and next one not until 22nd July and needed to get the ball rolling sooner than that. Anyhoo the more I think about the whole Circle Of Care thing I don't think it's a bad thing, doing the whole "One Stop Shop" kinda thing. All in-house just makes sense to me.3) Head hunger/self- sabotage when banded. Your thoughts?I guess I'm just nervous about me trying to get clever with the band that's all. I want to hear I suppose that when you feel full you quit

eating for the sheer sake of it......meaning if you don't stop (unlike pre-band) you wind up hurling and regretting it for 4 hours after.4) Keeping banding op top secret from anybody other than your partner? I'm really not wanting to tell ANYBODY I'm getting this done. I know everybody's lean will be the bog standard "But you just have to try harder...." or "But you have SUCH a pretty face...." *blech* or bog standard comebacks like that. I figure I could 'hide' it if I had to by eating tiny meals and making up an excuse, I guess subconsciously if I fall flat on my face I don't want another 10 people being able to think "Yeah good one - couldn't even do it with that kind of help!!" although I know my chums wouldn't really think like that. I just figure I don't need the "support" per se on a daily basis...I have myself and my husband for that.Thankyou so much if you made it to the

end of this War & peace epic post and if you could chime in with your thougths/comments to my above points that would be most appreciated.D

Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email address.

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The staff at Steve Liebmann's office are a nightmare. After a long

drawn out process, I was scheduled for Surgery on 1st July. I got a

call from his secrteray the week before 'begging' me to change the

surgery date to 30 June... I think she messed up his diary!

Anyway, I had the surgery (at 9:30pm!) last Monday night and have

started feeling good today.

I love coffee and I am not giving that up! Steve is a pretty

reasonable guy with realistic expectations.... he's told me I can keep

up my coffees AND I drink Full cream milk in it!

Good luck with it!

Am seeing Dr Leibmann in 2 weeks - at which stage, I plan to complain

about his less than helpful reception staff!

>

> I know why you thought the office staff at Steve's office a little

hard to take.  I realised pretty quickly they are very very busy and I

can get a bit like that in the same circumstances.  So I now use the

direct approach.  Hi - I need to see, lock the time in and see if I

can hang the phone up before them!_._,___

>

>

> Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email

address.

> www.yahoo7.com.au/mail

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Catt,

There is only one person who is a problem at Dr. Leibmans rooms - and that is the person I call the grey monster. The rest of the staff are in my opinion, absolutely wonderful. I had your problem, was scheduled for 11am surgery, but due to an emergency - Dr. Steve is also head of Trauma at North Shore Public, I was not in surgery until about 8pm at night. Unfortunately, the life threatening cases are going to jump the queue, and usually, Dr. Steve is involved in the majority of these emergency cases. That's life having a great surgeon - everyone damned well wants him. We have a love hate relationship - but we really love each other all the time. He is my hero.

Another week and you will be in tip top shape! And... do complain about that female receptionist. I am now so damned nice to her she does not know what to do about it, but they all still think I am demanding... and that includes Steve.... but I honestly don't care... if I want to be demanding, I will be! LMAO!

Mel

> >> > I know why you thought the office staff at Steve's office a little > hard to take. I realised pretty quickly they are very very busy and I > can get a bit like that in the same circumstances. So I now use the > direct approach. Hi - I need to see, lock the time in and see if I > can hang the phone up before them!_._,___ > > > > > > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email > address.> > www.yahoo7.com.au/mail> >>

[Guest guest]

this is all a little close to the bone for me LOL re my expereince LOL

im still smarting that they dumped me after one small argument - im

just a perosn who says too much i guess.. still overall they sem to

like most people as long as you follow the rules.

i waited SOOOO long for my appointments only to be dumped ...( now

back on track with another place)

anyway thanks for sharing and wish you all the very best. the doctor

himself seems really nice cept hell take the side of the staff before

you so be careful what you say .( imho)

> > >

> > > I know why you thought the office staff at Steve's office a

little

> > hard to take. I realised pretty quickly they are very very busy

> and I

> > can get a bit like that in the same circumstances. So I now use

> the

> > direct approach. Hi - I need to see, lock the time in and see if

> I

> > can hang the phone up before them!_._,___

> > >

> > >

> > > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email

> > address.

> > > www.yahoo7.com.au/mail

> > >

> >

>

[Guest guest]

Mel: You are right, it is just the one person...The grey Monster...

I like that one! Killing her with Kindness has not worked for me

unforutantley.

Thanks also for your encouragement. Feeling a bit down at the

moment, but only one more week to go and then I'm on mushies, which

has got to be a whole lot better than the fluids stage!

Catt

> > >

> > > I know why you thought the office staff at Steve's office a

little

> > hard to take. I realised pretty quickly they are very very busy

> and I

> > can get a bit like that in the same circumstances. So I now use

> the

> > direct approach. Hi - I need to see, lock the time in and see if

> I

> > can hang the phone up before them!_._,___

> > >

> > >

> > > Get the name you always wanted with the new y7mail email

> > address.

> > > www.yahoo7.com.au/mail

> > >

> >

>