Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 dogs are carnivores feed them raw marrow bones, raw meat, raw organs, and plenty of fats. did you ever see how crazy they go when you cook bacon? they are all fat starved. their coats come back very fast when you supply them with enough fats they also self treat with herbs, so give the dog an assortment of fresh grown herbs and see what it goes for OT Feeding A Labrador This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 I have fed my dogs a raw, homemade, species-appropriate diet for almost 20 years now. If you go to my website and click on " holistic care, " you will find a ton of articles, links to other sites, and book recommendations. On the other hand, if you want the " short version, " your instincts are correct. Throw the kibble in the trash and feed your dog real food. You can feed him what you eat while you research canine diet and how you want to approach it. Christie Caber Feidh ish Deerhounds Raising Our Dogs Holistically Since 1986 http://www.caberfeidh.com/ http://doggedblog.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 So I gues that's why she likes grass? I did give two cooked marrow bones from beef stock made last week. After the second one about 2 days after the first she vomited. Guess I need to go slower. Phil OT Feeding A Labrador This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 Phil- >This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know >what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " >way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not >convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the >dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated. Feed your dogs BARF. It used to stand for Bones And Raw Food; now it stands for Biologically Appropriate Raw Food. There are plenty of sites devoted to it. The danger to avoid is lots of factory farm chicken, which is a cheap and easy way out that a lot of people unfortunately take, to their dogs' detriment. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 vomiting is not necessarily bad for dogs or maybe humans dogs are much better at instinctual cleansing than we. best not to anthropomorphize the dog and assume vomiting is detrimental. if her coat improved or her energy or health otherwise got better after vomiting then draw your own conclusions. dogs dont perspire so they have urine, feces, and vomit as their only exit routes for toxins. i'd switch over to raw bones. their stomach acid is many times more potent than ours. OT Feeding A Labrador This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated. Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 31, 2005 Report Share Posted October 31, 2005 From: " REMOC " <> This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated.> Take her to the Vet. If it were your sister, mother, or wife who had Lyme disease I hope you would not just change their food and hope it got better. If your dog is not healthy, you are not doing something right. That is not a negative remark against you. I had a dog that we all loved very much and it got sick and we waited about ten days to take it to the vet and the dog had gotten some kind of heartworm virus between the annual check-ups with the vet and she ended up dying. Watching the dog after she got sick was heart-breaking. I always wish that I had rushed to the vet the first day we noticed something was wrong. Al Ironman Weight Training Blog http://www.ironman63.blogspot.com/ ----- Original Message ----- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Does that mean I need to buy organically raised chicken? I was thinking I could just buy her " regular " beef and chicken as opposed to what we buy at WF. Am I asking for trouble with that? Phil Re: OT Feeding A Labrador Phil- >This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know >what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " >way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not >convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the >dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated. Feed your dogs BARF. It used to stand for Bones And Raw Food; now it stands for Biologically Appropriate Raw Food. There are plenty of sites devoted to it. The danger to avoid is lots of factory farm chicken, which is a cheap and easy way out that a lot of people unfortunately take, to their dogs' detriment. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 2, 2005 Report Share Posted November 2, 2005 Phil, An easy solution is to not feed chicken. I feed " regular " beef, lamb, pork, quail, buffalo, duck, ostrich, etc. When it comes to nutritional value of food: I truly believe in epigenetics - every generation of " regular " gets worse. So I feed uncommon meats as regularly as possible. -Lana On 11/2/05, REMOC <REMOCLIHP@...> wrote: > Does that mean I need to buy organically raised chicken? I was thinking I > could just buy her " regular " beef and chicken as opposed to what we buy at > WF. Am I asking for trouble with that? > > Phil Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 7, 2005 Report Share Posted November 7, 2005 Your right in the seriousness of the disease.I'm being treated for chronic lyme and it's a nightmare. I can assure all that lyme plus cop-infections plus heavy metal toxicity convinces me that hell is for real.(Maybe this is why my body is just loving the raw butter and goats milk I recently started.)She has been seen by our vet and has had 3 rounds of doxy for lyme.Her incontinence is gone but bahavioral problems which disappeared on earlier treatments are still with her. That's another reason whjy in addition to her tremendous shedding I suspec ther nutritioanl status is garbage and I don't expect the vet to understand any of that.Hoping to strengthen her and when I get to the point wher I can get near the rife machine again to treat her for not just lyme but co-infections. Seems like the key as in humans is to boost the immune system instead of trying to run down infection many of which escape lab test detection. Phil Re: OT Feeding A Labrador From: " REMOC " <> This is OT so if anyone responds you can email me directly. I don't know what to do about our black labrador and am wondering if there is a " NT " way to feed her. We are using a " natural " dog food but I am still not convinced that's the right stuff for dogs to eat. She sheds like the dickens and is most nervous. She also has lyme. Any dog advice is appreciated.> Take her to the Vet. If it were your sister, mother, or wife who had Lyme disease I hope you would not just change their food and hope it got better. If your dog is not healthy, you are not doing something right. That is not a negative remark against you. I had a dog that we all loved very much and it got sick and we waited about ten days to take it to the vet and the dog had gotten some kind of heartworm virus between the annual check-ups with the vet and she ended up dying. Watching the dog after she got sick was heart-breaking. I always wish that I had rushed to the vet the first day we noticed something was wrong. Al Ironman Weight Training Blog http://www.ironman63.blogspot.com/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 10, 2005 Report Share Posted November 10, 2005 >-----Original Message----- >From: >[mailto: ]On Behalf Of REMOC > > >So I gues that's why she likes grass? I did give two cooked marrow >bones from beef stock made last week. After the second one about 2 >days after the first she vomited. Guess I need to go slower. Phil, Please PLEASE don't give *cooked* bones to your dog. They are dangerous. Cooking causes them to dry out and splinter. These splinters can get caught in your dog's gut and wreak havoc. They are more likely to cause an impaction as well since the moisture has been removed. If you want to give bones be sure they are raw. Raw bones are softer, more flexible and less prone to splintering. I don't know why your dog vommited but my two guesses are: 1. Gastroenteritis from too much marrow (IF there was marrow left in the bone. This happened to one of my dogs years ago) 2. Splintered bone piercing stomach lining. Suze Fisher Lapdog Design, Inc. Web Design & Development http://members.bellatlantic.net/~vze3shjg Weston A. Price Foundation Chapter Leader, Mid Coast Maine http://www.westonaprice.org ---------------------------- " The diet-heart idea (the idea that saturated fats and cholesterol cause heart disease) is the greatest scientific deception of our times. " -- Mann, MD, former Professor of Medicine and Biochemistry at Vanderbilt University, Tennessee; heart disease researcher. The International Network of Cholesterol Skeptics <http://www.thincs.org> ---------------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 16, 2005 Report Share Posted November 16, 2005 Phil- >Does that mean I need to buy organically raised chicken? I was >thinking I could just buy her " regular " beef and chicken as opposed >to what we buy at WF. Am I asking for trouble with that? Yeah. I think it's especially important with poultry, but it's even important with beef. Conventional meats are just less nutritious in addition to being more toxic, and with non-ruminants you have the added danger of excess PUFA. Pork, though, is the most important meat to be extra-careful about sourcing, because pigs are used as garbage disposals for all sorts of toxic waste that no other animal will eat. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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