Re: Twinlab Cod Liver Oil

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whats the best brand... carlsons?

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> > whats the best brand... carlsons?

>

>Twinlab--it's a line of supplements.

Huh? You're not recommending Twinlab CLO, are you?

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> > > whats the best brand... carlsons?

> >

> >Twinlab--it's a line of supplements.

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> Huh? You're not recommending Twinlab CLO, are you?

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Oh, my word, I mis-read that. well, butter my butt and call me a

biscuit...please disregard.

B.

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> whats the best brand... carlsons?

I do believe that " anyone who's anyone " on this list takes Green

Pastures Blue Ice.

and some take Premier/Quantum.

Those are the high-vitamin brands AFAIK.

Garden of Life brand is recommended in the WAPF shoping guide and has

been more-or-less cleared of charges of rancidity (brought to our

attention by...the Carlson's guy.)

are you still with me?

Carlson's used to be popular with WAPF but is no longer IIRC since it

was discovered there is something hinky going on in the manufacturing.

meaning removal/replacement of vitamins.

I still recommend Carlson's if it's the best I can expect someone to

take as it's easy to find around town and doesn't taste fishy. Folks

can always upgrade later once they've acquired a taste for the stuff.

B.

/What Would Idol Take?

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On 10/28/05, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> I still recommend Carlson's if it's the best I can expect someone to

> take as it's easy to find around town and doesn't taste fishy. Folks

> can always upgrade later once they've acquired a taste for the stuff.

> B.

Is GOL hard to find? Whole Foods and Vitamin Shoppe carries it, so I

would unequivocally recommend it to anyone who wanted to buy it in

stores. Carlson's is so low in vitamin A it almost seems not even

worth it even if nothing else is available. GOL has almost four times

as much vitamin A.

Chris

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> Is GOL hard to find? Whole Foods and Vitamin Shoppe carries it, so I

> would unequivocally recommend it to anyone who wanted to buy it in

> stores. Carlson's is so low in vitamin A it almost seems not even

> worth it even if nothing else is available. GOL has almost four times

> as much vitamin A.

>

I'm talking about n00bs, man. People who have a huge issue with a

fishy taste in their mouth--mint essence or no. I've never tried GOL

but I assume it's got the fishy-tasting goodness. Am I mistaken?

B.

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On 10/28/05, <spiorad@...> wrote:

> We do add the vitamins A and D but they are not synthetic. They are from

> soy.

In what kind of person's mind is this actually *better* than

synthetic? And what the hell is in soy that they are dubiously

referring to as " vitamins A and D? " Carotenes and D2?

> Have a healthy day!

Yes, by buying another brand cod liver oil. *rolls eyes*

, they *should* be labelling it or simply sued for fraud. The

label " vitamin A " and " vitamin D " on cod liver oil implicitly carries

the meaning of pre-formed A and D3. If this is allowable, then they

could conceivably RBD the oil, purify it from any vitamins, then add

omega-3s from flax to replace those lost in the processing, and

carotene/D2 isolates from plants and then still call it " cod liver

oil " when it would basically be anything but. Kind of like Twin Lab

basically is, to some unknown extent.

Chris

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Blue Ice comes in capsules so you don't have to care about the taste. I

freely confess I can't stand CLO. So that's how I take it.

Christie

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> > We do add the vitamins A and D but they are not synthetic. They

are from

> > soy.

>

> In what kind of person's mind is this actually *better* than

> synthetic? And what the hell is in soy that they are dubiously

> referring to as " vitamins A and D? " Carotenes and D2?

>

> > Have a healthy day!

>

> Yes, by buying another brand cod liver oil. *rolls eyes*

>

> , they *should* be labelling it or simply sued for fraud. The

> label " vitamin A " and " vitamin D " on cod liver oil implicitly carries

> the meaning of pre-formed A and D3. If this is allowable, then they

> could conceivably RBD the oil, purify it from any vitamins, then add

> omega-3s from flax to replace those lost in the processing, and

> carotene/D2 isolates from plants and then still call it " cod liver

> oil " when it would basically be anything but. Kind of like Twin Lab

> basically is, to some unknown extent.

>

>

New article?

Is the meaning truly " implicit " according to the current laws? That's

the sad part, and unknown to me.

Reminds me of the olive oil thing, wherein olive oils on the shelf can

actually be full of other oils--or is that urban myth?

B.

[Guest guest]

is the organic pastures brand of butter oil and fish oil both unheated?

what do you folks think about ghee from indian grocery stores... alot cheaper

than the above brand, but heated

[Guest guest]

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> is the organic pastures brand of butter oil and fish oil both unheated?

>

> what do you folks think about ghee from indian grocery stores...

alot cheaper than the above brand, but heated

anonymous,

the Green Pastures brand oils are unheated, at least the butter oil is

for sure--we've been assured--and the CLO is some " proprietary process " .

I use a particular brand of ghee--from time to time--from the Indian

stores that is bright yellow and labelled as coming from grazed cows,

but I also understand the inherent risk.

The butter oil is used as a medicinal--it is a rare item, and

concentrated--and the price reflects as much. Some people choose to

stock up on--and eat extra--high-quality butter, if they can find it.

B.

[Guest guest]

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>Is the meaning truly " implicit " according to the current laws? That's

>the sad part, and unknown to me.

I have no idea, but it's ethically fraudulent however the law spins it.

>I've never tried GOL

>but I assume it's got the fishy-tasting goodness. Am I mistaken?

Nope, it's mint-flavored and tastes like mint.

Chris

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>

> Blue Ice comes in capsules so you don't have to care about the taste. I

> freely confess I can't stand CLO. So that's how I take it.

Christie,

I always thought the Blue Ice capsules were the least

offensive--though I'd never tried it before--and I distribute it to

people, but I was left with a bottle and when I opened it up--whew,

what an aroma! And I have to take, what, 12 of them? At least? I'd

always thought it was in gel caps. Maybe I'm a wimp? But I'll eat it

off the spoon all day long.

B.

[Guest guest]

> I have no idea, but it's ethically fraudulent however the law spins it.

Well, when suggesting someone should " simply sue them " , it makes a

difference.

> Nope, it's mint-flavored and tastes like mint.

Fantastic! I will check it out. I had no idea, thx for the education.

B.

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On 10/28/05, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> I use a particular brand of ghee--from time to time--from the Indian

> stores that is bright yellow and labelled as coming from grazed cows,

> but I also understand the inherent risk.

cmon tb, don't leave us hanging!

i've been using amul, but have no reason other than that a few desis

told me it was 'the best.' it seems pretty yellow... shrug.

e

[Guest guest]

>> I always thought the Blue Ice capsules were the least

offensive--though I'd never tried it before--and I distribute it to

people, but I was left with a bottle and when I opened it up--whew,

what an aroma! <<

To me they smell fruity.

I'm allergic to mint so that rules that out, and frankly, the idea of

slurping down oil to me is just gross, even if I didn't mind the taste. At

least this way I take it. <G>

Christie

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--- In , Furbish <efurbish@g...>

wrote:

> cmon tb, don't leave us hanging!

>

> i've been using amul, but have no reason other than that a few desis

> told me it was 'the best.' it seems pretty yellow... shrug.

e,

Hi! Okay, I had to look it up--couldn't quite recall the name

before--it's " Nanak " brand " pure desi ghee " and it is a bright yellow

color and very reasonably priced. Google'd a bit, and lo, discovered

it is actually produced/manufactured in...Canada to " stringent "

Canadian and FDA standards. All that quality assurance, yet, I just

called them and the " manager " didn't know where butter comes from.

me: I'm wondering if the cows are pastured or fed grain?

him: well, I wouldn't know, because the ghee is actually made

from...butter

me: ???

him: (pause)

me: and the butter comes from...milk, right? And milk comes from cows?

him: oh, right--and may I ask why you wish to know this?

me: blah blah blah WAPF blah blah blah would be nice to add you to

the shopping guide distributed to our billions of readers blah blah blah

him: well, we get our butter from various sources around the country

and... [he has no idea]

He did assure me--with confidence--that they do not add any sort of

coloring agent--or anything else--to the ghee FWIW.

B.

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On 10/28/05, <spiorad@...> wrote:

> Below is the response I got when I e-mailed Twinlab about their cod liver oil.

Very dissappointing! That's what I get for trying to go the inexpensive route.

Why don' t they have to label it?!

>

>

>

> Alison Nicholson <anicholson@...> wrote:

> Subject: RE: cod liver oil question

> Date: Fri, 28 Oct 2005 11:05:38 -0400

> From: " Alison Nicholson " <anicholson@...>

> " " <spiorad@...>

>

> We do add the vitamins A and D but they are not synthetic. They are from soy.

>

> Have a healthy day!

Vitamins A and D from soy? Is this a mutant brand of soy newly

introduced on the market? Please enlighten me?

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'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

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On 10/28/05, Masterjohn <chrismasterjohn@...> wrote:

> On 10/28/05, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

>

> > I still recommend Carlson's if it's the best I can expect someone to

> > take as it's easy to find around town and doesn't taste fishy. Folks

> > can always upgrade later once they've acquired a taste for the stuff.

> > B.

>

> Is GOL hard to find? Whole Foods and Vitamin Shoppe carries it, so I

> would unequivocally recommend it to anyone who wanted to buy it in

> stores.

Nope, I see it all over the place. But, it does taste fishy to me, but

then again *all* CLO tastes that way to me. If someone is intent on

taking it but still can't get by the taste, best to encapsulate it.

--

" It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

which is, after all, a specialized discipline

and one that most people consider to be a

'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

-- Murray Rothbard

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On 10/28/05, a_l_ <anonymousm@...> wrote:

> is the organic pastures brand of butter oil and fish oil both unheated?

>

> what do you folks think about ghee from indian grocery stores... alot cheaper

than the >above brand, but heated

Technically there is no such thing as raw ghee, by definition, at

least historically, its heated product. There is a thread in the

archives about this.

Didn't know that Organic Pastures made/carried butter oil so can't

comment on that. Unless something has changed recently, there is no

unheated cod liver oil on the market.

--

" It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

which is, after all, a specialized discipline

and one that most people consider to be a

'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

-- Murray Rothbard

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On 10/28/05, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> Reminds me of the olive oil thing, wherein olive oils on the shelf can

> actually be full of other oils--or is that urban myth?

> B.

Not an urban myth. Olive oils, especially the cheaper brands and more

refined versions, have been known to be cut with other oils.

--

" It is no crime to be ignorant of economics,

which is, after all, a specialized discipline

and one that most people consider to be a

'dismal science.' But it is totally irresponsible

to have a loud and vociferous opinion on

economic subjects while remaining in this

state of ignorance. "

-- Murray Rothbard

[Guest guest]

On 10/28/05, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

>

>

> > cmon tb, don't leave us hanging!

> >

> > i've been using amul, but have no reason other than that a few desis

> > told me it was 'the best.' it seems pretty yellow... shrug.

>

> e,

> Hi! Okay, I had to look it up--couldn't quite recall the name

> before--it's " Nanak " brand " pure desi ghee " and it is a bright yellow

> color and very reasonably priced. Google'd a bit, and lo, discovered

> it is actually produced/manufactured in...Canada to " stringent "

> Canadian and FDA standards. All that quality assurance, yet, I just

> called them and the " manager " didn't know where butter comes from.

<snip>

haha. but so the main thing, for those who hadn't bought it before,

would be i think to look carefully at the label and make sure you

don't get 'vegetable ghee,' which is exactly what you might think and

oh so totally offensive to humanity.

i'll try some nanak (great name) next time and you try some amul and

we'll compare notes. or, maybe just making some ghee from decent

organic butter would be the way to go. same price really. can't

bring myself to heat-clarify the raw stuff i make, though.

e

[Guest guest]

> >

> > > I still recommend Carlson's if it's the best I can expect someone to

> > > take as it's easy to find around town and doesn't taste fishy.

Folks

> > > can always upgrade later once they've acquired a taste for the

stuff.

> > > B.

> >

> > Is GOL hard to find? Whole Foods and Vitamin Shoppe carries it, so I

> > would unequivocally recommend it to anyone who wanted to buy it in

> > stores.

>

> Nope, I see it all over the place. But, it does taste fishy to me, but

> then again *all* CLO tastes that way to me. If someone is intent on

> taking it but still can't get by the taste, best to encapsulate it.

,

okay, the emphasis in my post was on " if it's the best I can expect

someone to take " Yes, I realize GOL is widely available, and higher

in vitamins, but my assumption *was* that it has a stronger taste than

Carlson's. Once a nervous-palated noob gets through a bottle of

Carlson's--or a bottle of capsules--they tend to come around and

become willing to take something stronger. This has been my experience.

B.

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Good question. I know vitamin E comes from soy. I did a search and could find

nothing on A and only one reference on D here

http://www.drugnatural.com/p/655623. ( " Super D3 (Vitamin D Derived from Soy).

The dumb thing is they talk about the sources of the various kinds of D in the

text and say " Super D3 is derived from lanolin, from sheep's wool. " Make up your

mind people! Anybody want to swallow some sheep's wool?

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introduced on the market? Please enlighten me?

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On 10/28/05, downwardog7 <illneverbecool@...> wrote:

> > I have no idea, but it's ethically fraudulent however the law spins it.

>

> Well, when suggesting someone should " simply sue them " , it makes a

> difference.

Oh good point. Someone rich who doesn't care about their money should

sue them then. Just to make the point either way.

Chris

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