Guest guest Posted October 26, 2005 Report Share Posted October 26, 2005 http://www.dr-gonzalez.com/clinical_pearls.htm We divide patients into different metabolic categories, depending on each patient’s particular genetic, biochemical and physiological make-up. In this model, patients with solid epithelial tumors, such as tumors of the lung, pancreas, colon, prostate, uterus, etc. do best on a largely plant-based diet. Such patients have a metabolism that functions most efficiently with a specific combination of nutrients that are found in fruits, vegetables, nuts, whole grains and seeds, and with minimal to no animal protein. On the other hand, patients with the blood or immune based malignancies such as leukemia, myeloma and lymphoma do best on a high-animal protein, high-fat diet. Such patients do extremely well with a diet based on animal products with minimal to moderate amounts of plant based foods, the particular design of the diet again depending on the individual patient’s metabolic make-up. We find patients with pancreatic cancer always do best with a largely plant-based diet that emphasizes fruits, vegetables and vegetable juice, nuts, seeds and whole grains. Allowed protein includes fish one to two times a week, one to two eggs daily and yogurt daily, but no other animal protein. In our therapy, we use diets specifically because of the effect of food on the autonomic nervous system. This system consists of the sympathetic and parasympathetic branches and ultimately controls all aspects of our physiology, including immune function, cardiovascular activity, endocrine function and the entire action of our digestive system. The sympathetic and parasympathetic systems have opposing actions on the target organs and so can adjust our physiology depending on needs and demands, enabling our bodies to react to any situation, condition or stress. We believe disease, whatever the form, occurs because there is an imbalance in autonomic function. For example, we find solid tumors, such as tumors of the breast, lung, pancreas, colon, uterus, ovaries, liver, etc occur only in patients who have an overly strong sympathetic nervous system and a correspondingly weak, ineffective parasympathetic nervous system. We believe that blood-based cancers, such as leukemia, lymphoma and multiple myeloma, only occur in patients that have an overly developed parasympathetic nervous system, and a correspondingly weak sympathetic nervous system. Previous research, such as Dr. Francis Pottenger’s research during the 1920s and 1930s proposed that much if not all disease has autonomic imbalance as at least one of the major causes. We have found that specific nutrients and foods have specific, precise and predictable effects on the autonomic nervous system. For example, a vegetarian diet emphasizes fresh fruits and vegetables, particularly leafy greens, and contains large doses of minerals such as magnesium and potassium. It has been shown in many studies that magnesium suppresses sympathetic function, while potassium stimulates parasympathetic activity. Furthermore, a largely vegetarian diet tends to be very alkalinizing, and the neurophysiologic research documents that in an alkalinizing environment, sympathetic activity is reduced and parasympathetic activity increased. So, whatever other effect a vegetarian diet has, in terms of autonomic nervous system function, such a diet will reduce sympathetic activity and stimulate the parasympathetic system. A meat diet is loaded with minerals such as phosphorous and zinc, which tend to have the opposite effect. A high-meat diet stimulates the sympathetic system and tones down parasympathetic activity. Furthermore, such a diet is loaded with sulfates and phosphates that in the body are quickly converted into free acid, that in turn stimulates the sympathetic nervous system while suppressing parasympathetic activity. So, by the careful use of diet, we are able to effect major changes in autonomic function, and bring about balance in a dysfunctional nervous system. We find, further, as the autonomic system comes into greater harmony and balance, when the autonomic branches are equally strong, all systems – from the immune system to the cardiovascular system – work better regardless of the underlying problem. In essence, we are using diet to bring about greater physiological efficiency. For cancer patients, long experience has taught us that it is not enough to load patients with enzymes; the question of autonomic imbalance must also be addressed. In terms of pancreatic patients specifically, a plant-based diet provides all the nutrients to correct autonomic dysfunction. ---------------------------- My comment: Almost exactly the same theory found in book The Metabolic Typing Diet. So while Sally and the members of this list find flaws with the specific diets recommended, someone who uses it to help cure cancer is speaking at the WAPF Conference??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 28, 2005 Report Share Posted October 28, 2005 , > My comment: Almost exactly the same theory found in book The Metabolic Typing Diet. So while Sally and the members of this list find flaws with the specific diets recommended, someone who uses it to help cure cancer is speaking at the WAPF Conference??? Interesting, indeed! Did throw Dr. 's name out in a cancer thread on GFCFNN month or so ago, iirc. Being the most vocal here to metabolic typing as a maintainer of health.I can't quite understand why Sally has chosen the what you should have done after the disease approach. IIRC, you're a metabolic typing consultant so you must know that pancreatic enzymes have been found by the diet researchers to not be needed by every type when eating for their metabolic type. In summary, I highly respect Dr. 's work like Kelley's with metabolic typing and cancer. If Dr. can get across PPPS, prevention, protection, parasympathetic, sympathic regarding eating for your type then the approach from the disease state backward will have worked. Bold move for WPF in the direction that everyone shouldn't eat everything. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 - >My comment: Almost exactly the same theory found in book The >Metabolic Typing Diet. So while Sally and the members of this list >find flaws with the specific diets recommended, someone who uses it >to help cure cancer is speaking at the WAPF Conference??? Not only that, there's apparently going to be an anti-MT article in an upcoming issue of Wise Traditions. However, the impression I got from at the conference was that he recommends lots of fat for all his patients of all types, but that dairy is the main source of animal fat for so-called " vegetarian type " people. Whether there is such a thing as a " vegetarian type " and how much there really is to metabolic typing is unclear, but the other part of his presentation, which was by far the bulk of it, was absolutely fascinating, and as soon as I get a free hour or two, I'm going to write up and elaborate on my notes. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 On 11/20/05, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > - > > >My comment: Almost exactly the same theory found in book The > >Metabolic Typing Diet. So while Sally and the members of this list > >find flaws with the specific diets recommended, someone who uses it > >to help cure cancer is speaking at the WAPF Conference??? > > Not only that, there's apparently going to be an anti-MT article in > an upcoming issue of Wise Traditions. However, the impression I got > from at the conference was that he recommends lots of fat > for all his patients of all types, but that dairy is the main source > of animal fat for so-called " vegetarian type " people. Whether there > is such a thing as a " vegetarian type " and how much there really is > to metabolic typing is unclear, but the other part of his > presentation, which was by far the bulk of it, was absolutely > fascinating, and as soon as I get a free hour or two, I'm going to > write up and elaborate on my notes. > , Did actually say vegetarian type? From all I've read from quite a few MT researchers there's no one they've put on a vegan diet without some form of animal protein and fat in varying amounts and types, sources. This dairy fat source type is referring to is the same type I referred to earlier this week in response to Connie on gorging. This is Abravnel's adrenal dominant that craves high protein,salty foods,red meat and alcohol but needs pituitary stimulant from dairy. I'd appreciate hearing what else covered at the conference when you have the time.Will be highly disappointed if Wise Traditions does an anti MT article considering the varying macronutrient ratios and sources of them WAP found in his groups. If individuals actually adapted their genetic and metabolic predisposition to any macronutrient source wouldn't be doing what he does. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 20, 2005 Report Share Posted November 20, 2005 Wanita- >I'd appreciate hearing what else covered at the conference >when you have the time.Will be highly disappointed if Wise Traditions >does an anti MT article considering the varying macronutrient ratios >and sources of them WAP found in his groups. If individuals actually >adapted their genetic and metabolic predisposition to any >macronutrient source wouldn't be doing what he does. One genuine problem with a lot of the MT field, though, is the dietary fat recommendation continuum it usually presents. IIRC, Wolcott says " carb " types on one end should get 10% of calories from fat and " protein " types on the other end should get 30% of calories from fat. That's ludicrous. I'm less familiar with Kelley's system, which follows, just because it was Wolcott's book I read, but a lot of MT dietary recommendations are similarly ludicrous. I'm not saying there's nothing to typing, since it seems like there's got to be _something_ there, but by comparison to Wolcott and modern orthodoxy, ALL Price's healthy natives ate a high-fat diet, and all of Price's healthy natives also ate lots of animal protein in one form or another. - Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted November 21, 2005 Report Share Posted November 21, 2005 On 11/20/05, Idol <Idol@...> wrote: > Wanita- > > >I'd appreciate hearing what else covered at the conference > >when you have the time.Will be highly disappointed if Wise Traditions > >does an anti MT article considering the varying macronutrient ratios > >and sources of them WAP found in his groups. If individuals actually > >adapted their genetic and metabolic predisposition to any > >macronutrient source wouldn't be doing what he does. > > One genuine problem with a lot of the MT field, though, is the > dietary fat recommendation continuum it usually presents. IIRC, > Wolcott says " carb " types on one end should get 10% of calories from > fat and " protein " types on the other end should get 30% of calories > from fat. That's ludicrous. I'm less familiar with Kelley's system, > which follows, just because it was Wolcott's book I read, > but a lot of MT dietary recommendations are similarly ludicrous. > > I'm not saying there's nothing to typing, since it seems like there's > got to be _something_ there, but by comparison to Wolcott and modern > orthodoxy, ALL Price's healthy natives ate a high-fat diet, and all > of Price's healthy natives also ate lots of animal protein in one > form or another. > , Much of my interest is in that Wolcott worked for Kelley and follows Kelley. I'm gathering from what you've written that isn't as fat phobic as Wolcott's fat %s. Wolcott's % are the same as Lawder's. Wiley's look to be the same with graduated type ratios but stressing for his acid/protein type, animal protein with every meal, no dairy sub, high purine, high fat organ meats, higher fat dark meats fatty fish, olives, avocadoes, dairy and nuts. IIRC, has found 17 diets for various cancer treatments. Wolcott many more variations so MTD is highly simplified. I agree animal protein and fat were high in all of Price's groups. What type of animal fat or protein one's autotomic nervous system works best on, I see as more important than suggested ratios. The differences in metabolic processing determine what dark, red, fatty meat and fish, light, meats fish, dairy protein, animal body fat, dairy fat and plant fat results to inside any individual to their dominant system. Variations of use of all of these was in Price's groups. Metabolic typing, biochemical individuality or biobalance is more than one researcher with some contradictions amongst the many researchers. A fair article wheather justifying or vilifying any part of it would include the option for research of other's work. Wanita Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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