Anyone with Teeth Implant experience?

[Guest guest]

By process of elimination of all other possibilities, it looks like I will need

about 8 or 9 dental implants in the next year. Just wondering if anyone on this

group has had any experience with this, especially in connection with being

chronically ill.

Thanks for any info,

Dorina

[Guest guest]

Hi Dorina-

Here is the only thing I have heard personally about dental implants. A few

years ago I wanted to go that road for one tooth-a lower molar. The oral

surgeon I was referred to--after hearing that I had lupus--said no. Was not

woth the risk of the reactions, etc. The main thing he was concerned about was

the work that would have to be done into the jawbone and My understanding was

that if the implant was a failure-the jaw would suffer damage that could not be

corrected.

I also have CFS and FM. I saw this same surgeon a few weeks ago regarding TMJ

(now that was due an accident-a fall in 1969). Again-not much we can do-but

the fibro really makes the TMJ a thousand times worse. Again this surgeon has

saved me money and heartache--he seems to call the shots as they are-even if the

news is not good. He could have made quite a bundle off my maladies-and not

improved my situation-and probably caused more pain (as other doctors have with

the TMJ), So now-excuse the pun-I bite the bullet with the oral problems--and

still have a missing molar.

I am also of the impression it is not a good idea to have multiple implants if

they are close together in the jaw. You might really want to shop around with

this one--get some good answers on what you are faced with if there is a problem

with any of the implants after the work is completed. Let me know how it goes.

Regards, Ellie Payne

[Guest guest]

Hi Dorina,

Email me and I will send you a dental chart. Each tooth is

connected to an organ or body part via the meridians or chi. An

implant and/or amalgam fillings will block or distort this. Bad

news! Please make sure you really research this thoughly. I would

never do even one implant, knowing what I do but please do your own

research and don't just believe me.

Tomorrow there's a conference call with a biological dentist. If

you want to pose a question (they block us from talking during the

main Q & A portion and questions are emailed in previously), I can

forward you the information and you can listen in. I've been on the

call once before and he has explained the different options and what

materials are safest to use. Keep in mind too that when getting a

crown, they need to use a form of glue to hold it in place. This

can be extremely toxic as well.

I've had all my amalgams taken out about six years ago and had

various materials tested via electro dermal screening to see what

was compatible. I was allergic to the glue used for porcelain and

gold was the only compatible material.

Do not count on your dentist to tell you anything like this. There

are numerous books out there that help explain this. It's All in

Your Head by Dr. Hal Huggins is one.

Some people get rid of cancer just by getting rid of implants! I

don't want to scare you but it is not to be taken lightly. My Mom

has several different types of metal in her mouth and no migraine

therapy on earth works for her. I've been telling her for years

about the battery-like effect that takes place when that's in the

mouth. An online friend told me she went and had all her amalgams

removed in Colorado and it was like her head just went quiet. She

had lived with a buzzing sound and didn't even realize it!

There's a few Yahoo groups you can also learn from about this. Try

searching groups for metal or dental or amalgam or something like

that.

So sorry that you're in this predicament. It took me a year of

tooth pain to finally get rid of a tooth instead of doing the root

canal thing. I couldn't deal with having a space there so I can

imagine what it must be like to need so much work. My thoughts are

with you!

Sharon

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> By process of elimination of all other possibilities, it looks

like I will need about 8 or 9 dental implants in the next year. Just

wondering if anyone on this group has had any experience with this,

especially in connection with being chronically ill.

>

> Thanks for any info,

> Dorina

>

[Guest guest]

Hi Ellie,

Thanks so much for your response. All of my upper right teeth from the back

molar (#2 onward) to the left eye-tooth (#10 which is still there) and then also

the left canine (#11) are gone. I cannot have a partial denture due to other

reasons, so all I'm left with is implants or no teeth on over half my upper jaw.

I cannot figure out what other remedy there is than implants. Two oral surgeons

have told me I'm a good candidate for this, even with my CFS. My former holistic

dentist says he gives me a 50/50 chance of it working out.

Dorina

[Guest guest]

Hello,

Prior to becoming disabled, I worked since high school in the

dental / medical field. I've assisted for many years a Surgeon that

specialised in Implants. All I can say is that we are all different

in Jaw bone structure, nerves and how they relate to doing your

specific surgery. You can have a nerve vein run superficially near

an area being considered for this costly procedure and many factors

have to come together in order to be considered a reasonable risk to

proceed. This is just not as cut and dry as most might think. There

are times where it appears by panorama picture and other means of

pretesting that a patient would be a good candidate and still because

of the very nature of the procedure (cutting, digging to remove

teeth, roots and prepare area for the implants themselves) they can

come through the other side with some numbness or as major as

paralysis. No surgery comes free of risks but they are not common,

they are the exception if you have a good Doctor. I have seen many

full mouth implants performed that were successful. Only once in the

10 years of doing this did I see anyone complain of even a partial

numb area in her cheek.

Hope that helped.

God Bless,

/Dutchie

> I am also of the impression it is not a good idea to have

multiple implants if they are close together in the jaw. You might

really want to shop around with this one--get some good answers on

what you are faced with if there is a problem with any of the

implants after the work is completed. Let me know how it goes.

>

> Regards, Ellie Payne

>

[Guest guest]

Thanks for your response, . It does help to hear from someone with

first-hand medical experience. In my case, the surgeon is extracting my teeth

and then having me wait and heal for six months before trying the first implant

to see how I do with that.

So in my case, it is cutting, digging to remove the teeth and roots, then the

healing. Then I suppose they will have to cut back through the healed gum area

to drill into the jaw. Sounds just awful, but the end result will be worth it, I

hope. I sure don't like what I have to live with right now. I'm wearing what is

called a dental " splint " which is holding the broken-off crowns up against these

areas in my mouth where I have the missing teeth. I cannot eat with it in, but

hardly have enough teeth to eat with when it's out. lol --- and I sure cannot

eat with anyone else in the room when I'm not wearing the splint.

D

[Guest guest]

Ellie,

I was wondering if you wouldn't mind, could I ask why it is your oral surgeon

advised against teeth implants for you, with regard to your Lupus? I'd like to

be prepared with all the knowledge possible when I make my own decision for

this.

Was it something about the actual procedure, and if so, what is it that happens

that might affect a person with auto-immune disease?

Thanks,

Dorie

[Guest guest]

I'm sorry Dorine for everythinhg you are going through but let me

assure you, although it sounds absolutely sick (procedure) it is best

to do it as your doctor is. If you are having several teeth being

done, it's very important to do upper ridge or lower ridge at the

same time to have all line up perfectly. I am surprised how patients

came back saying it was literally better than the extractions.

I wish you the best of luck and until then, I pray you can get

through this period of splinting. Hang in there girl!

God Bless,

Dutchie/

> Thanks for your response, . It does help to hear from

someone with first-hand medical experience. In my case, the surgeon

is extracting my teeth and then having me wait and heal for six

months before trying the first implant to see how I do with that.

>

> So in my case, it is cutting, digging to remove the teeth and

roots, then the healing. Then I suppose they will have to cut back

through the healed gum area to drill into the jaw. Sounds just awful,

but the end result will be worth it, I hope. I sure don't like what I

have to live with right now. I'm wearing what is called a

dental " splint " which is holding the broken-off crowns up against

these areas in my mouth where I have the missing teeth. I cannot eat

with it in, but hardly have enough teeth to eat with when it's out.

lol --- and I sure cannot eat with anyone else in the room when I'm

not wearing the splint.

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> D

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