Guest guest Posted January 9, 2005 Report Share Posted January 9, 2005 For Jocelyne or anyone else interested, It is an interesting philosophical question whether the difference between an elemental form of an element and an ionic form is attributable to the ionic form's existence as a salt or strictly to its own identity as an ion-- that is, its different number of electrons from the elemental form. While a salt may dissolve completely in a solution and thereby yield free ions not linked in salt linkages, in a certain way the identity of the free ion is dependent on its existence as a salt outside of solution, and a potential precipitate pending changes in its environment. Free chloride, for example, cannot itself be added to a solution, and electric neutrality requires it be balanced by an equal positive charge. However, I would suggest that several points allow us to divorce the indentity of the salt or hypothetical salt potential from the identity of the free ion: 1) The free anion's unique chemical behavior is independent of the cation it is associated with in solution. Free chloride will behave the same in a solution of sodium chloride as in a solution of potassium chloride, while in both cases the behavior of free chloride is fundamentally different from that of elemental chlorine, whether as a diatomic gas or a free radical. 2) If two salts of different cations but the same anions are added to a solution, the free anions are not distinguishable based on which cation they were previously associated with, nor by their potential to form a precipitate with one or the other specific cations. Take again sodium and potassium chloride. If they are added together to the same solution, the free chloride ions cannot be distinguished as to whether they " belong " to sodium or potassium, and it cannot be predicted which cation they will precipitate with under precipitating conditions based on which cation they were associated with before dissociation. Thus, there is no real ontological existence to the hypothetical salt *potential* of these ions in solution. They, ontologically, cease to be ionic compounds in solution. 3) In the body, ions exist mostly as free ions rather than salts (I say mostly because salt linkages exist in other contexts but for the purposes here they essentially do not exist), but the free ions are completely independent of any such hypothetical salt partners, existing in independent solutions. For example, much of the chloride taken into the body exists as sodium chloride and almost none of it exists as hydrogen chloride or hydrochloric acid, yet most of the chloride in the stomach is electrically neutralized by hydrogen, and the same is true in the urine, while sodium exists elsewhere often not associated with chloride. Thus the free chloride (or other ions) exists as an independent unit, not a salt formation, nor as an entity whose identity is dependent on a previous or hypothetical potential salt. Indeed, hydrogen chloride is not even a true salt, as, not in solution (that is, in any case where it could exist as a united compound), it is a covalent linkage. Yet chloride associated with hydrogen does not possess a different chemical identity from chloride associated with sodium, once again showing chloride's identity to be self-contained in its existence as chloride, and not dependent on its existence as a salt or its potential existence as a salt. Chris ____ " What can one say of a soul, of a heart, filled with compassion? It is a heart which burns with love for every creature: for human beings, birds, and animals, for serpents and for demons. The thought of them and the sight of them make the tears of the saint flow. And this immense and intense compassion, which flows from the heart of the saints, makes them unable to bear the sight of the smallest, most insignificant wound in any creature. Thus they pray ceaselessly, with tears, even for animals, for enemies of the truth, and for those who do them wrong. " --Saint Isaac the Syrian Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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