Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 , I suggest you look at this link http://www.justgreatadvice.com/bipolar/psychiatric-evidence-of-bipolar-disorder.\ php You can call me all the names you want, you don't matter to me so I couldn't be bothered. I'm a Fraud? how do you figure? You don't even have a clue what you're talking about. What I said wasn't an insult, it was advice that was taken the wrong way. I also agreed that sex is just as bad for women and men with no libido. I said there are physical capability differences, get your facts straight. I'm not sure if you're mentally ill, but it definitley seems like you got some anger issues. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 , cut it out, or you will be removed from the group. Enough is enough. Vornan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I dont believe there is anything such thing as mental illness, and I dont like to hear it either. I believe that people can become emotionally unwell has nothing to do with there mental capabilities, just there feelings- me being ill was caused by bottling my feelings inside me, I know thats what caused it- I always cry now and my concentration is better than its ever been in my whole life. I think that people can get very lonely then they might start believing things were real that were not, there all sorts of reasons why people become emotionally unwell, family domestic problems, bullying , abuse, bereavement, etc, I dont think that mental illness is the correct term to use and Im sorry but I dont trust pychiatric hospitals one bit- especially after what happened to me with the drugs they poisioned me with. I have made some small recovery and I know ill do everything I can never to be put in one of those places again. After all if a person has problems then why not talk to that person about what is happened in there life not about voices in there head blah blah giving labels and making up stupid names of illness that dont exist making out its some brain disorder when it so obviously is not. Them companies are out to make money and have A MAJOR amount to answer for. I wish the world was different but why fool ourselves , there properly are supportive people out there somewhere, I know I searched in the wrong places. To: SSRIsex Sent: Sat, October 23, 2010 11:21:33 PMSubject: Re: At Last! A Responce Mental illness does exist. Have you ever seen schizophrenics? Why don't you someday visit a mental hospital to learn about mental illness. If we want to convince scientists with this group we should try to discuss scientifically. >> There is no such thing as mental illness. And to beleive in the myth is to support the brutal inhumane actions of the criminals that assaulted us with thier lies, coersion, and piosons. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Vornan are you the moderator? What did I do wrong? I am the one getting attacked. I'm simply defending myself. Believe it or not I'm only trying to help. I truly wish the best for everyone in this group, despite all the arguing and misunderstandings. We are all here for the same ultimate goal, to find a way to cure for PSSD. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I probably know more about psychiatry than anyone in this group. I've thousands of hours scouring scientific and other databases looking for the so-called " research " that psychiatrists claim to prove the existence of mental illness. They state that schizophrenia is caused by genetics, and even go so far as to name four specific genes, I don't remember the names offhand. DrOfMind had a video about it on youtube. He has since disappeared from there, he was probably shut down for spreading so much BS they didn't want him around anymore. I do not take things at face value. Just because some so-called " expert " says that the moon is made of cheese, that doesn't make it so. I've searched the databases for the schizophrenia genetic proof, and every single one of them has been thoroughly dis-proven, and raised ethical issues about the researchers, drug companies, and exposed blatant flaws in the research methodology. I'm not going to agree with someone that has done absolutely nothing but cave into the propaganda, and never bothered to do their own research on the subject. I have " visited " a mental hospital years ago. And if there was anything to learn, it's the fact that the establishment is run by degenerate scumbags who violate human rights, and make-up phony diagnosis as they go along. They like to hide the diagnosis from you, and then treat you like a criminal when you practice your legal right to get a copy of their phony balanced made up 'medical' records. Consider this yet another way. If you were diagnosed with a real disease/injury i.e. cancer, broken bones etc.. would it be normal for the physician to hide from you the fact that you had a serious injury or deadly disease? Of course not. That is the reality of the criminal psychiatric establishment. Or consider this another way. If psychiatry is so scientific, were is the medical test for the diagnosis? Where is the medical test that finds something broken in your brain? Where is the medical test that says what drug you need? Where is medical test that says what dose you need? Where is medical test to show if the drug is working or not? And all these pharm-payola cronies just want to tell all of us that the drugs are completely side effect free, and all of our post psych-drug physical problems are just our imagination. Please don't tell me again that psychiatry is scientific. It is a religion created by and for the yuppy control freak money robbing scum, that do not give a damn about your rights, your health or your family. > > > > There is no such thing as mental illness. And to beleive in the myth is to support the brutal inhumane actions of the criminals that assaulted us with thier lies, coersion, and piosons. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Well, for one thing, you can't say things like " I only state facts " , " shut the fuck up " , or " your hissy fits " without expecting a response. I guess you just have to have the last word, even if it's wrong. Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > Why, why, WHY, do men keep saying women don't have to worry about > > having > > > > sex if they have PSSD. Please all you guys listen: WOMEN DON'T ENJOY > > > > GETTING FUCKED IF THE PHYSIOLOGICAL RESPONSE ISN'T HAPPENING!! > > HELLO??? > > > > > > > > Women's problems with SSRI sex effects affect them the same as they > > do > > > > men. It doesn't make us happy to lie there & think of England while > > you > > > > use us to stroke your penis (if your penis is working). We want to > > feel > > > > the feelings, we want the feelings to build up, we want to climax, > > JUST > > > > LIKE YOU GUYS!! > > > > > > > > Women like sex just as much as men do. Maybe more, since we have > > more > > > > whole-body orgasms and some of us are multi-orgasmic. > > > > > > > > I'm surprised this " Oh, women don't really have any sex problems " > > kind > > > > of thinking still exists. It's sexist. It's sexist. It's sexist!!! > > > > Sexism is still acceptable in our society. We've managed to give up > > > > racism, at least in public. Be the first on your block to give up > > > > sexism. THINK before you speak. > > > > > > > > Do a little research to find out what women really are. > > > > > > > > Ann > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 How many women here like going through the motions of having sex? Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffec\ t | > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 I haven't had the following problem, but my understanding is that women who have to have their breasts removed because of cancer (or whatever) feel pretty much like men who've been who've been medically castrated. I say " medically " because I think if you actually had your balls cut off, you'd feel a lot more castrated than you do now. And if somehow my clitoris was removed or my vagina destroyed, and for me, if my uterus were removed, I'm pretty sure I'd feel like I'd lost my womanhood. It's important to women to feel like women (unless they're cross-gendered, etc.), and even though most of our society still seems to think so, men feeling like men isn't more important than women feeling like women. Ann > > The reality is that making a man completely impotent is the psychological > equivalent of castrating us! I don't doubt that the pain of losing your > sexuality is just as great. However, for a man to lose his penis is also the > loss of his manhood. I will never again feel like man because of pssd. The > psychological devastation of being castrated is not something that any woman > is capable of understanding. Just as childbirth is something that no man > can understand. > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Would you please document your " facts " with peer-reviewed journal articles of medical research? (And go into details about how the statistics were formulated. Statistics can be manipulated so far down in the model that every piece of research, even peer-reviewed, is questionable. This is a peer-reviewed fact.) I'm waiting ... Ann PS: I'm sory you can't have sex, but we didn't make you that way. > > > Kaivey the world isn't out to get you give it a rest. I have what I believe to be PSSD after taking Paxil for 10+ years. You are the one who keeps changing your mind. First you apologize for realizing that I was trying to help, now you've flipped out for some reason on this non-stop rant. I stick to my belief that if you are able to have sex one day and not the next, it is more likely that it is a mental issue. PSSD stands for PERMANENT OR PERSISTENT SSRI SEXUAL DYSFUNCTION not Occasional SSRI Sexual Dysfunction. > > By no means am I saying that everyone's condition is caused by a mental issue but long term depression and anxiety is a mental illness! Get it through your head! Improving your metal health will improve sexual dysfunction weather you have PSSD or not. If you don't agree with me that's fine, but you taking offence to something I said and getting angry isn't going to get you anywhere. Like I said before, I only stated facts, sometimes you may not want to hear them, and if it's too tough of a pill for you to swallow, that's not my problem > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 Thank you, more reasonable . Ann > > You're absolutely right Ann,to assume, imagine, or think that women have less of a problem with PSSD would be to make an assumption. A scientific study might show that women suffer more because of PSSD, who knows? We can all speak for ourselves on this board and others can get something from what we offer or not. I am truly grateful that there are women on this board, it makes PSSD all the more real to me and it is highly informative to know that the female system is susceptible to these drugs. Your presence here makes our argument more convincing and more powerful to those who might help us. > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 23, 2010 Report Share Posted October 23, 2010 The point, for me, is to take this opportunity provided by to try to enlighten other men here who are more likely to listen, as to how deeply ingrained sexism is in our culture, and how women's concerns are dismissed as unimportant. And to inform everyone, male & female, of information I recently discovered about the astonishing extent of erectile tissue in women. When we all get our functioning back, it'll be a different world if we understand these things about women. I would be very happy if would drop his references to women, and his definition of PSSD, which was born in his head, and get on with (I'm quoting you because you expressed it perfectly): " work[ing] together to get publicity for this condition so doctors take us seriously and perhaps something can be done for us and so other people who have not yet taken antidepressants don't have to suffer like we have. " I used to go around admonishing wide-eyed youngsters not to smoke. Now I advise them strongly not to EVER take an SSRI. Ann > > I think all of you should just drop this argument. Its kind of ridiculous. I doubt was sent by the pharma companies. I can see how you (Kaivey) and the women on here felt insulted. Some people just have a difference of opinion and its clear you don't agree but look you are getting all upset over some guy posting on a message board. Whats the point? All of you should just let it rest. > > Different people manifest PSSD in different ways. No matter what way it manifests it is very painful. I don't think we should be arguing which type of PSSD is worse and which is not. You cannot really know unless you are in the other persons shoes which you cannot be. Why don't we just continue to work together to get publicity for this condition so doctors take us seriously and perhaps something can be done for us and so other people who have not yet taken antidepressants don't have to suffer like we have. That was the original purpose of this thread wasn't it? > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 WOAHHHH! Now you've brought Ann out of her "WTF do you mean by there's no such thing as mental illness" corner. Have you ever lived with a schizophrenic, or someone who's manic depressive? I have. Those are mental illnesses, not behavior choices. I agree that some things labeled "mental illness" can probably be dealt with by behavior mod or even just loving support (getting a new mother, say), but there are definitely at least two real mental illneses. Ann > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article,> > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal:> > > > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > >this topic > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > >It does > > > > >> > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > >supplements should > > > > >> > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use> > > > > > > > > .> > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I am definitely not accusing anybody specifically! I hadn't even time to read this discussion. > > > > I am not accusing anybody specifically, but > > let us always beware for " internet trolls " that deliberately start " flame wars " and chaos and play victim at the same time. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I don't have sex. Why should I? I don't tell ppl I have pssd. And any guy would notice that I'm 'faking' it. I had it once, where I pretended I'm horny, but it got very embarrassing. And painful too. so until someone comes up with a cure I'm sexless. Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: SSRIsex Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 05:20:58 -0000To: <SSRIsex >ReplyTo: SSRIsex Subject: Re: At Last! A Responce How many women here like going through the motions of having sex?Ann> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned inthis article,> > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal:> > > > > > > > > > > > >> > > > > > > > > >> >>http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffec\t |> > >> > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New TopicMessages in> > >this topic> > >> > > > > > > >(32)> > > > > > > >> > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8> > > > > > > Visit Your Group> > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educationalpurposes only.ÂÂ> > >It does> > >> > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. Allmedications and> > >supplements should> > >> > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision.> > > > > > >> > > > > > >> > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe• Terms of Use> > > > > > > .> > > > > > >> > > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > >> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I wasn't going to put this post out because Oliver , the psychologist that is going to look into PSSD for us, is very political, but now this subject has come up I might as well put out an extract leaving the politics out. The gene theory for mental illness is all but finished, except for finding small unimportant vulnerabilties. What happens is that we learn these insecurities and vulnerabilties in the same way as language is passed on through generations. Geniticists and scientists have done a great job and their work has been the main reason for helping us to clear this mystery up. And so we can re-learn new behaviour and create happier relationships which will help undo mental illness. CBT is now developing powerful new methods for treating bipolar and schizophrenia, and there is more to come with the new therapies like Acceptance and Commitment Therapy which also help these conditions. and don't forget, the main cause of bipolar illness nowadays is the chronic use of antidepressant drugs. Below is an extract from Oliver's article: When the map of the human genome was presented to the world in 2001, psychiatrists had high hopes for it. Itemising all our genes would surely provide molecular evidence that the main cause of mental illness was genetic – something psychiatrists had long believed. Drug companies were wetting their lips at the prospect of massive profits from unique potions for every idiosyncrasy. But a decade later, unnoticed by the media, the human genome project has not delivered what the psychiatrists hoped: we now know that genes play little part in why one sibling, social class or ethnic group is more likely to suffer mental health problems than another. This result had been predicted by Craig Venter, one of the key researchers on the project. When the map was published, he said that because we only have about 25,000 genes psychological differences could not be much determined by them. "Our environments are critical," he concluded. And, after only a few years of extensive genome searching, even the most convinced geneticists began to publicly admit that there are no individual genes for the vast majority of mental health problems. In 2009 Professor Plomin, a leading behavioural geneticist, wrote that the evidence had proved that "genetic effects are much smaller than previously considered: the largest effects account for only 1% of quantitative traits". However, he believed that all was not lost. Complex combinations of genes might hold the key. So far, this has not been shown, nor is it likely to be. This February's editorial of the Journal of Child Psychology and Psychiatry was entitled "It's the environment, stupid!". The author, Edmund Sonuga-Barke, stated that "serious science is now more than ever focused on the power of the environment … all but the most dogged of genetic determinists have revised their view". In Sonuga-Barke's own field, attention deficit hyperactivity disorder, he observed that "even the most comprehensive genome-wide scans available, with thousands of patients using hundreds of thousands of genetic markers … appear to account for a relatively small proportion of disorder expression". Genes hardly explained at all why some children have ADHD and not others. That was illustrated recently in a heavily publicised study by Anita Thapar, of Cardiff University. Although she claimed to have proved that ADHD is a "genetic disease", if anything, she proved the opposite. Only 16% of the children with ADHD in her study had the pattern of genes that she claimed causes the illness. Taken at face value, her study proved that non-genetic factors cause it in 8 out of 10 children. Another theory was that genes create vulnerabilities. For example, it was thought that people with a particular gene variant were more likely to become depressed if they were maltreated as children. This also now looks unlikely. An analysis of 14,250 people showed that those with the variant were not at greater risk of depression. Nor were they more likely to be depressed when the variant was combined with childhood maltreatment. Kaivey > > >> > > There is no such thing as mental illness. And to beleive in the myth is to support the brutal inhumane actions of the criminals that assaulted us with thier lies, coersion, and piosons.> >> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Most men do think that womens feelings are not all that important, this is a fact of life I have learned to accept a long time ago, they will never change, women will always be second class in society and men will always regard there own feelings as more important, it something to with the male ego I think, I know it is very sad, I dont rule out that there might be some men out there different but there are not many of them and Iv not been fortunate enough to meet many. Previous to having pssd I just used vibrators, you can have a far better time with a vibrator than you will ever have with a man, women are lucky that they have so many decent shops out there these days with plenty to choose from. I used to enjoy browsing through them on the internet for hours lol. We are lucky that our sexuality has been given importance enough for them to come out with some fantastic products, something that men dont have lol I have to laugh- I do get angry about the way men regard our feelings sometimes, but the older I get the more I realise its just not worth it life is too short to let it bother you, lol wish Id realised that back when I was young though. To: SSRIsex Sent: Sun, October 24, 2010 6:55:15 AMSubject: Re: At Last! A Responce The point, for me, is to take this opportunity provided by to tryto enlighten other men here who are more likely to listen, as to howdeeply ingrained sexism is in our culture, and how women's concerns aredismissed as unimportant. And to inform everyone, male & female, ofinformation I recently discovered about the astonishing extent oferectile tissue in women. When we all get our functioning back, it'llbe a different world if we understand these things about women.I would be very happy if would drop his references to women, andhis definition of PSSD, which was born in his head, and get on with (I'mquoting you because you expressed it perfectly): "work[ing] together toget publicity for this condition so doctors take us seriously andperhaps something can be done for us and so other people who have notyet taken antidepressants don't have to suffer like we have."I used to go around admonishing wide-eyed youngsters not to smoke. NowI advise them strongly not to EVER take an SSRI.Ann>> I think all of you should just drop this argument. Its kind ofridiculous. I doubt was sent by the pharma companies. I can see howyou (Kaivey) and the women on here felt insulted. Some people just havea difference of opinion and its clear you don't agree but look you aregetting all upset over some guy posting on a message board. Whats thepoint? All of you should just let it rest.>> Different people manifest PSSD in different ways. No matter what wayit manifests it is very painful. I don't think we should be arguingwhich type of PSSD is worse and which is not. You cannot really knowunless you are in the other persons shoes which you cannot be. Why don'twe just continue to work together to get publicity for this condition sodoctors take us seriously and perhaps something can be done for us andso other people who have not yet taken antidepressants don't have tosuffer like we have. That was the original purpose of this thread wasn'tit?> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 You should see a sexuologist for coping with your PSSD. Penetration is not the only form of sex. And you can try a lubricant, vibrator, mutual masturbation, petting, role playing, kissing, oral or anal sex, etc... So even severely disabled people can have sex in some form. Many women have problems with orgasm. It is best to tell it to your partner. You don't have to mention what the cause is of your orgasm problem though. > > I don't have sex. Why should I? I don't tell ppl I have pssd. And any guy would notice that I'm 'faking' it. I had it once, where I pretended I'm horny, but it got very embarrassing. And painful too. so until someone comes up with a cure I'm sexless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 i believe you are trying to help, but your views are very solipsistic. just because someone's experience of pssd is different to yours it means they don't have it? come on. it is a very complex syndrome. V > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I tried em all, trust me, I did. I don't like being in bed when I can't benefit from it and another person does. I'm not in a relationship so its ok. I don't like the label 'disabled' but I just realized I am Sent on the Sprint® Now Network from my BlackBerry®Sender: SSRIsex Date: Sun, 24 Oct 2010 18:12:17 -0000To: <SSRIsex >ReplyTo: SSRIsex Subject: Re: At Last! A Responce You should see a sexuologist for coping with your PSSD. Penetration is not the only form of sex. And you can try a lubricant, vibrator, mutual masturbation, petting, role playing, kissing, oral or anal sex, etc... So even severely disabled people can have sex in some form. Many women have problems with orgasm. It is best to tell it to your partner. You don't have to mention what the cause is of your orgasm problem though.>> I don't have sex. Why should I? I don't tell ppl I have pssd. And any guy would notice that I'm 'faking' it. I had it once, where I pretended I'm horny, but it got very embarrassing. And painful too. so until someone comes up with a cure I'm sexless. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 If you believe that I'm only trying to help, that's all that should matter. I based my beliefs on what is most likely. I can't help if someone disagrees with something and wrongly takes offence to what was supposed to be advice. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 Ann, I think women's issus with PSSD are just as important. I NEVER said that they weren't. For the last time I said there was physical differences which is quite obvious. This is the last time I'm going to respond to your accusations because I feel like I'm running in circles. I hope that you can move on > > > > I think all of you should just drop this argument. Its kind of > ridiculous. I doubt was sent by the pharma companies. I can see how > you (Kaivey) and the women on here felt insulted. Some people just have > a difference of opinion and its clear you don't agree but look you are > getting all upset over some guy posting on a message board. Whats the > point? All of you should just let it rest. > > > > Different people manifest PSSD in different ways. No matter what way > it manifests it is very painful. I don't think we should be arguing > which type of PSSD is worse and which is not. You cannot really know > unless you are in the other persons shoes which you cannot be. Why don't > we just continue to work together to get publicity for this condition so > doctors take us seriously and perhaps something can be done for us and > so other people who have not yet taken antidepressants don't have to > suffer like we have. That was the original purpose of this thread wasn't > it? > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 It didn't sound like advice, . It sounded like an accusation. Because someone's experience of PSSD wasn't exactly the same as yours you took the solipsistic approach and accused them of having a " mental illness " . That's what psychiatrists do all the time...and how me got in this mess in the first place. Vornan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 , the problem here is that the majority of people here are trying new treatments, doing research, trying to get attention of the press and medical community... and we are here sharing things to help each other. Your posts are a distraction from what we are trying to accomplish. They don't offer any of the above, they offer insults and arguments which just frustrate rather than encourage. We are all fighting with our PSSD. We don't want to fight with you, too. It's exhausting, it's discouraging, and it's a waste of our time. If you would like to share your successes and failures, or if you have any questions, please share. If you are only interested in causing commotion and dissent and passing your opinions off as fact, please find another board to entertain yourself with. We are all leading busy lives and want to use this time productively to accomplish our goals and encourage each other. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in this article, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffect | > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic Messages in > > > > > > > > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational purposes only. > > > > > > > > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All medications and > > > > > > > > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I have for more than a quarter of a century, and I've been married almost 32 yrs. Kay > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > The yahoo group is prominently mentioned in > this article, > > > > > > > > > > > published in a peer reviewed journal: > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >http://psychrights.org/research/Digest/SSRIs/PersistentSSRISexSideEffec\ > t | > > > > > > > > > > > > >Reply to group | Reply via web post | Start a New Topic > Messages in > > > >this topic > > > > > > > > > > > > >(32) > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Recent Activity: * New Members 8 > > > > > > > > Visit Your Group > > > > > > > > This group is for support, discussion, or educational > purposes only. > > > >It does > > > > > > > > > > > > not provide psychiatric or medical care. All > medications and > > > >supplements should > > > > > > > > > > > > be taken under a doctor's supervision. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Switch to: Text-Only, Daily Digest • Unsubscribe > • Terms of Use > > > > > > > > . > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted October 24, 2010 Report Share Posted October 24, 2010 I believe that a lot of people are wrongly diagnosed as being mentally ill when all that's wrong is things like what you said -- bottling up feelings, loneliness (I know this one very well -- and prisons use it as punishment, driving some people "crazy"), rejection or betrayal by someone important, abuse, domestic problems, etc. I do believe there's something biologically wrong with real schizophrenics and people who are actually manic-depressive. But I think a lot of people are diagnosed as schizophrenic or M-D who aren't. My father was definitely M-D, but my friend & former lover whom I've mentioned here several times, was diagnosed as M-D and he's not. He just had a lot of bad things happen all at once. I was seeing a shrink once who decided that I was M-D based on the fact that my father had been, and -- ready? -- my hairdo, which was, she said, wild. So my hairdo meant that I was mentally ill. I think I laughed in her face. I hope so. Some people are more sensitive to their environment than others (see any two babies, kittens, puppies, etc.). There are differences between us in how well we handle stress. A stressful childhood could result in one sibling developing a coping mechanism, and one unable to. But the latter isn't mentally ill. I can tell that you were mistreated, both before you went to the hospital and while you were there, and now you have to add that to what you were already trying to deal with. I hope you're feeling better now. I assume putting you on an SSRI was part of your "treatment", so now you have the consequences from that added to the above. A person can only take so much. But that doesn't mean they're mentally ill. I majored in psychlogy (a LONG time ago -- what I learned then is probably all useless today). People caught in a mess of other people's makings grab my heart & I want to do something. I discovered a gizmo the other day that I think might help everyone in a stressful culture like ours. I want to make it clear that (a) I have nothing whatsoever to do with this company, don't even know anyone who works there, and ( I haven't tried this myself. But I ordered their gizmo (yesterday) because if it does work correctly, it should teach me the proper way to breathe (I catch myself not breathing a lot), lower my tension, and maybe get me off my BP meds, which are fucking with my kidneys. I think it's pretty well known that breathing techniques can be very helpful in making one's life better. The gizmo is at http://www.resperate.com/us/shop/product.aspx?product=95. That's a refurb, and costs $200. There's a 30-day guarantee, which I don't think is long enough because very stressed people don't like to take time out to relax & it might take a whole month for a person to just get to that point, so there'd really be no chance to test the thing & see if it really lowers your BP (in my case) or gives you a more positive outlook on life (I could also use this). I'm going to write the company about this short guarantee. Anyways, it sounds like you need some non-medical help, and some emotional support. I know what it's like to need support & not have any. If you'd like to write me offline, I at least have a comfortable shoulder. I can't remember whether e-mail addresses automatically show up in posts, so here's mine: ruby2zdy@.... Ann PS: Like you(?), I used to have a voice in my head (my mother hatefully spitting out my name as if she were on the verge of hitting me because I'd done something sinful -- if Ithink about how that voice made me feel -- and that was in the '60s -- it still makes me want to cry). I knew it wasn't real, but if I'd had more of a tendency to panic, I could have thought it was real, and then there I'd be -- "schizophrenic" and heavily medicated. > >> > There is no such thing as mental illness. And to beleive in the myth is to > >support the brutal inhumane actions of the criminals that assaulted us with > >thier lies, coersion, and piosons.> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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